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Post# 1060452   2/13/2020 at 10:44 (1,388 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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Is, finally, the WK Thermador dishwasher! So far Iíve been told it squeals, leaks, and needs a thermostat. Iíll post pictures upon arrival, and desperate pleas for help once Iíve spent some time checking it over and such in the coming weeks!




Post# 1060461 , Reply# 1   2/13/2020 at 12:28 (1,388 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

I'm happy for you in that you got the machine that you wanted. We will see how things go after you have had some time to play with it. Nothing compares with having a dream come true.


Post# 1060467 , Reply# 2   2/13/2020 at 13:25 (1,388 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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My Thermador was beautiful on the outside and I loved how the the sound of the door latch was reminiscent of a '60s luxury car.   If only it drove like one too.  In that regard, it was more along the lines of a Pinto or Vega with a shot muffler.

 

These are still fun machines, though.  Daily drivers, not so much IMO.

 

I'm looking forward to pictures.

 


Post# 1060470 , Reply# 3   2/13/2020 at 14:29 (1,388 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Hi Ralph.

Reading the opening statement, I immediately thought of You and Nate with the "Thundering Thermador".




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Post# 1060502 , Reply# 4   2/13/2020 at 21:16 (1,387 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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Here are the preliminary photos.

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Post# 1060506 , Reply# 5   2/13/2020 at 23:13 (1,387 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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Where's the close-up shot of the left-side buttons?††:-)


Post# 1060510 , Reply# 6   2/14/2020 at 05:11 (1,387 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Also a close-up of the panel lights in the middle.  And congratulations!!!


Post# 1060516 , Reply# 7   2/14/2020 at 07:05 (1,387 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
Terrible reputation

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I know these machines have a terrible reputation but I'd still have one just to play with.  I've always thought the curled tines on the racks were cool.  Our next door neighbor had this model and she hated it.  From what I recall she kept it for a few years and replaced it.  I remember her telling my Mom it spent more time not running that it did running.

 

I used to baby sit for them and play with it as best I could without getting ratted out by the kids for spending all my time in the kitchen playing with the dishwasher.  LOL.

 

I hope you have some fun with it, better yet I hope you get it running and can use it to actually do some dishes.


Post# 1060526 , Reply# 8   2/14/2020 at 10:12 (1,387 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Worse complaint was

they got so hot, that condensation made the load wet again following drying if installed on an outside wall. I saw those in every expensive custom home that had Thermador ovens back in the 1980's.

Post# 1060590 , Reply# 9   2/14/2020 at 23:37 (1,386 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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The ĎSanií button is my favorite!

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Post# 1060594 , Reply# 10   2/15/2020 at 01:26 (1,386 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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My goal is to fix it up to the point where I can install it, at least for a little while, and use it for a while. Then when it gives me a good reason Iíll put the Whirlpool back in.

Post# 1060596 , Reply# 11   2/15/2020 at 02:43 (1,386 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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Is this the kind that had the steam generator built in it?  I remember seeing an advert for some brand with it in Southern Accents or Architectural Digest when I worked in the library back in high school.


Post# 1060615 , Reply# 12   2/15/2020 at 08:44 (1,386 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

The steam generator is all of that metal fin-work around the heating element. You can tell if one of these machines has been used in hard water with poor detergent because these get all crusted with white mineral buildup. I was happy to see that this machine was free of mineral buildup. I think it was more of a gimmick because just running the pump and heating the water like a WP would provide more effective cleaning, although maybe with this machine, the less you ran the motor, the longer it would last.

I worked in a kitchen store in DC to earn some money to pay for renovations on my house. It was called Kitchen Bazaar, although some people called it Bizarre Kitchens. There was a demo kitchen at the back with a Thunderdor DW. There were demos from famous chefs and cookbook authors most Saturdays and I loved to clean up after. When I started, they had lots of Calfalon which had lots of brown grease varnish all over it because nobody had bothered to really clean it thoroughly. It was not supposed to go in the DW, but between some oven cleaner on the outside and regular trips through the Thunderdor, I got that stuff cleaned up and looking like new.

Do any of you remember the joke about the Yuppie kitchens of the 1980s having a commercial range, $1500 worth of Calphalon hanging over it and all of it unused because all meals were eaten out?


Post# 1060631 , Reply# 13   2/15/2020 at 11:36 (1,386 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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It was mentioned in the archived thread Eddie linked to above that the Thundering Thermador was the best at drying of any dishwasher I had ever used. 

 

That highly crammed and piggy-backed load pictured in the thread came out sparkling, but that turned out to be the exception rather than the rule.  I still blame Dave's bipolar sister for misuse while I was gone for a long weekend.  After that, glassware and utensils came out streaked and spotty, and I was re-washing things by hand.  I gave up on it after finding a low-use ISE Classic Supreme version of a 22 series KitchenAid.

 

If only the Thermador washed as well as it dried, and soundproofing wasn't an exercise in futility.


Post# 1060634 , Reply# 14   2/15/2020 at 11:58 (1,386 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
@ Tom ( and not a hijack )

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"Do any of you remember the joke about the Yuppie kitchens of the 1980s having a commercial range, $1500 worth of Calphalon hanging over it and all of it unused because all meals were eaten out? "

Yes. In the 80s, a friend's parents built a beautiful home at the Boca Delray Golf Course. She showed me the kitchen. State of the art Thermador for the time period.

She told me they only used the top rack of the dishwasher for cocktail glasses. Opened up the SubZero and it was filled with take out boxes. She never turned on the Wall Oven for 2 years.

It is still happening today I'm sure with $100,000 + kitchens. What a waste.




Post# 1060635 , Reply# 15   2/15/2020 at 12:16 (1,386 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I seem to recall Mark Harmon had two of these in his kitchen when they were being marketed and he loved them an he threw everything at it.  And he was very demanding of his dishwashers.  


Post# 1060639 , Reply# 16   2/15/2020 at 12:34 (1,386 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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Bob, I think Mark was in the market for a 4600 model last time he showed up on the board here.  Either that or whatever the TOL steam model was.

 

Eddie and Tom, I'm dealing with one of those trophy kitchens right now.  Gaggenau Garbage for stove top and range, both oddball sizes that aren't easily replaced.  No real cook in his or her right mind would ever have opted for such junk.

 

I won't complain about this sort of wastefully conspicuous consumption on a local level, though.  I've found a couple of Miele dishwashers for cheap as a result of someone with far too much money ripping out a perfectly good modern kitchen to realize their own misguided concept instead.  One would think the ReStores in this area to be bursting at the seams with Gagge-no-bueno crap as well, but I can't recall ever seeing any.


Post# 1061267 , Reply# 17   2/22/2020 at 10:37 (1,379 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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There were several TOL model numbers, the 4600, which is this one I have, was the TOL of its time.

Post# 1061271 , Reply# 18   2/22/2020 at 11:38 (1,379 days old) by Whatsername (Denver, CO)        

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My parents had that machine, though theirs had a color matched panel. It was an absolute turd and was replaced when I was in high school. Pretty though! Mom and dad still have the matching Thermador gas cooktop with telescoping downdraft, and double convection micro oven to this day.


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