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Post# 1062676   3/9/2020 at 01:29 (1,509 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Not even a half-hour into my oven’s self-cleaning, I got tired of the smoke alarm going off (even after my wife poked at it with a broom) so as I was about to cancel the cycle, I saw a flame rose up from the floor of the oven, then right through the sub-flooring under the oven come a gaggle of flames in the storage drawer I quickly doused out with a bag of baking soda, burning up everything in it...



— Dave


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Post# 1062703 , Reply# 1   3/9/2020 at 10:43 (1,509 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
I am

NOT having a self cleaning oven ,or anything newer than 50 years old. Im afraid of the new stuff.

Post# 1062704 , Reply# 2   3/9/2020 at 10:53 (1,509 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
FD Gas Range Storage Drawer Fire

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Was that a plastic cutting board that caught fire ?

Nothing flammable should be stored in any range drawer especially a gas range.

What a mess, why didn't you just throw a cup of water on the burning cutting board instead of 10 pounds of baking soda ?

John L.


Post# 1062707 , Reply# 3   3/9/2020 at 11:11 (1,509 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Wow, scary. Is the oven electric or gas? You're lucky to have caught that in time.

John. I'd have never thought about the plastic in the drawer thing myself so that's good to know. Why do you say particularly in a gas oven though being as I know nought about gas stoves


Post# 1062708 , Reply# 4   3/9/2020 at 11:23 (1,509 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        

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I’m wondering if there was a lot of grease on the oven floor, that could certainly be a source of ignition with the super high temps during a cleaning cycle.

 

Eddie


Post# 1062711 , Reply# 5   3/9/2020 at 11:34 (1,509 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)        

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My next door neighbor is a fire chief and even though their electric range has a self-cleaning feature, he will not allow his wife to use it as he has seen similar fires due to the excessive high temperatures generated in that cycle.

Post# 1062754 , Reply# 6   3/9/2020 at 18:49 (1,509 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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who buys that much baking soda?.....most people have a fire extinguisher at the ready....

I only grab flour and sugar by the bag, and that's only 5 pounds....


are you 'sure' that's baking soda?



maybe I should give thought to having a case of Tide should my dryer catch fire....


Post# 1062768 , Reply# 7   3/9/2020 at 21:18 (1,508 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington NC)        

A completely full storage drawer should be fully emptied or pulled out before running the clean cycle... Big bags of baking soda are the "norm" these days. (I still just use the little boxes)

Post# 1062805 , Reply# 8   3/10/2020 at 01:53 (1,508 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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I've had a few flames pop up in my oven when I've used the self clean but they were only for a minute or less and burned out.

Post# 1062806 , Reply# 9   3/10/2020 at 01:54 (1,508 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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So davey , it's time to curb that antique gas stove and move into the modern world of Induction cooking.. yeah?

Post# 1062819 , Reply# 10   3/10/2020 at 07:58 (1,508 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
Never had flames

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The worst thing that ever happened to me was the time I put a Cast Iron pan in upside down.  I mean I am a transplanted Northerner what do I know about Cast Iron pans?  The story is I had never cooked in one.  For whatever reason my Mom only liked Stainless Steel and that's all we ever used.  When I moved to the south he said I had to have one so we picked one up at an estate sale.  He said he throws them in a fire to fully clean them and then he re-seasons them in a low oven.  He told me he had read that you can put then in the oven during a cleaning cycle and it would do the same thing.

 

Well....that was a mistake.  I didn't have flames but I had smoke like I have never seen before.  I switched off the oven right away and waited for it to unlock and that was the last time I attempted that.  The smoke alarms were going crazy as you can imagine.  What a nightmare that was.


Post# 1062891 , Reply# 11   3/11/2020 at 06:54 (1,507 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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My stove is the solid black version of yours Dave.  I have never used the self clean cycle.  I'd rather just use fume free easy off.

 

When I get an old cast iron utensil that needs to be reseasoned, I put it on the gas grill on high for a while and it burns everything right off.  Hmmm, I have a muffin pan of my grandmother's (possibly great grandmother's) that needs attention.


Post# 1062952 , Reply# 12   3/11/2020 at 23:49 (1,506 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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It was a hot pad, an oven mit and even an ov-glove that got torched by the licking of those flames...

Here's the big bag of baking soda used by the bravery of Firefighter Dave:

Well, why not a cup of water? (Even my daughter wondered, as I searched for her jumbo-sized Arm + Hammer) I figured that I better use a dry chemical just in case anything electrical or simply was classified as a grease fire, as I waited an awful long time between cleanings, if that oven truly got grimy and greasy before I trusted my ever-reliable pyrolyptical heating system to safely get all that crud from top to bottom off...


-- Dave


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Post# 1062963 , Reply# 13   3/12/2020 at 05:22 (1,506 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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The biggest mistake people make with self-cleaning ovens is letting them get too greasy/dirty before using the cleaning cycle. I made that mistake once with my first self-cleaning oven—an electric 1985 Whirlpool. There were several little fires going on inside and of course the thing was belching smoke into the house. I shut it off immediately and waited nervously for it to play out—can’t do much when the oven door is locked. So, lesson learned there!

Gas ovens give off a tremendous amount of heat during the cleaning cycle. My 2002 Frigidaire heated the whole upper level of the house when I ran the cycle during the winter. The drawer at the bottom was a food warmer, so never stored anything in it. This is when I had both gas and electric ranges sitting next to each other. I tended to use the electric oven for things that would splatter—meatloaf, bacon, meatballs, etc.—because it gave off less heat/fewer fumes during cleaning.

I have no fear of the self-clean cycle—currently own a 2017 electric double-oven GE purchased when I moved to the apartment—and use it as soon as one of the ovens gets lightly dirty. It smells less during cleaning if the oven isn’t too dirty, which makes it easier on the neighbors, as well. Only three of the eight apartments here have a self-cleaning oven.


Post# 1062969 , Reply# 14   3/12/2020 at 07:03 (1,506 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
I've a Neff self clean oven

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And it tells you when it needs a clean cycle its approximately every 50 cycles of the oven but it depends on the temp used as the higher the temp more often it wants a clean. Takes an hour or so so I put the shelves and racks in the dishwasher and when its all done it looks like new.

Post# 1062974 , Reply# 15   3/12/2020 at 10:05 (1,506 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
The Great British

Baking show features Neff ovens, now a B.H.S.C. concern. They seem a bit smallish to me, but I know space can be an issue in Europe. I like the earlier series with the stainless console and center knob that recessed when centered then pushed to the off position. One baker had her door fall off in one episode. The slide and hide feature of the door is nice.

Post# 1063081 , Reply# 16   3/13/2020 at 13:15 (1,505 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
The Replacement-Range(s) I’m considering:

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I’m materialistic, I want a Samsung:

(at Best Buy)



— Dave


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Post# 1063082 , Reply# 17   3/13/2020 at 13:17 (1,505 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
Notice the practical difference?

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But I’m on a Frigidaire budget:

(at Best Buy)



— Dave


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Post# 1063084 , Reply# 18   3/13/2020 at 13:44 (1,505 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
@vacerator

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My oven has the hide and slide door its very good. The oven is the same size as any other over here most are made to fit in a 600mm wide unit.

Post# 1063093 , Reply# 19   3/13/2020 at 14:45 (1,505 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

I'd stay away from the Samsung...

I wanted exactly the same

I ended up with a brand new in box Kenmore (Elux-made) that sears outlet was selling... What an AMAZING stove.

I didn't like it very much, but the price was extremely attractive and sears outlet had over 50 units stacked there. They were not returned or lightly damaged.. they were brand new and perfect in a sealed box...

500 dollars and 2 years later, i love, love, love my stove, the oven is perfect and the self cleaning cycle was used more than 20 times and works beautifully.


Post# 1063121 , Reply# 20   3/13/2020 at 17:53 (1,505 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Best Gas ranges

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GE is By far the best built, WP-MT the most energy efficient and reliable, WP-MT uses smart ignition for the oven and broiler so you don't have a hot surface igniter consuming 400 watts whenever the burner is on that burns out and has to be replaced at a cost of $150-200 every 3-8 years depending on how much you use your oven.

 

In reality there is not as much difference in ranges as there is in laundry appliances and DWs so you can probably buy what you like.

 

I would differently stay away from fancy Electrolux ranges [ too many control problems ] and Samsung& LG [ they are pretty but really cheaply built when you are taking them apart to fix the ovens etc. ]

 

John L.


Post# 1063124 , Reply# 21   3/13/2020 at 17:59 (1,505 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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Hi Dave, there is likely no real damage to your range from the fire, I would remove the oven floor and clean any ash and unburned residue and then test the oven and run it through a clean cycle.

 

Grease and food soil that is not burned on should always be wiped up before running a clean cycle.

 

Dave it sounds like you had grease etc that spilled into the sub-pan under the oven floor, if you have a major spill in any gas oven self-cleaning or not it needs to be dissembled and cleaned before using it again.

 

John L.


Post# 1063127 , Reply# 22   3/13/2020 at 18:13 (1,505 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
reply 21 right on

...no real damage except possibly the badge got singed a little...oven cleaner should clean the smoke stains right up.

Post# 1063160 , Reply# 23   3/13/2020 at 23:21 (1,504 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Well, the Samsung has numbered controls, to facilitate Timed Bake and Delay Start which is why I seem to be attracted to it...

I don’t know why they were taken away, that is a feature I believe I will need in the times to come, and actually utilize...


— Dave


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