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Post# 1063374   3/16/2020 at 06:23 (1,501 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        

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My new Induction Range arrived and replaced the 25+ year old failing Jenn Air with its 2 speed burners with: "intent to cook" and "Sahara"settings! Its a beauty, black stainless steel. Wow does the oven work!  I like the large cooking zone for my big pots. The small burner will hold melted chocolate easy. The oven has a ton of nice features, like keep warm, bread proofing, fermenting, yogurt making, and there is a warming drawer at the bottom! Most of all what attracted me were the knob controls for the burners, I hate those little buttons with numbers you count! Give me a dial, and these dials are like gas cooktops, you push in to turn BUT you can turn them in either direction! Bonus they are marked with cooking speeds- like simmer , low medium , high! Who the hell knows what 3, or 6, or 9 means !! I'm set to hunker down with a Quarantini and cook up a storm these next few weeks.

 

 

 


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Post# 1063375 , Reply# 1   3/16/2020 at 06:25 (1,501 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Some of the warnings are hysterical

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But I think it has been engineered with someone like you Mike in mind. They give the IC rating  and talk about people with heart implants. 


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Post# 1063376 , Reply# 2   3/16/2020 at 06:27 (1,501 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Nice that they supplied you with three racks for the oven.

Beautiful Range. Can't wait to make some Cabbage or Kraut.


Post# 1063377 , Reply# 3   3/16/2020 at 06:28 (1,501 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Other timely warnings include

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Do Not Keep Pet Birds in the Kitchen!

 

Do not dry newspaper in the oven!


Do not store clothing on top of the range!

 

Do not climb into the oven!

 

I think those are all sensible don't you?

 

It has a very sensitive feedback mechanism and so unfortunately will not accept my vintage waterless cookware which works fine on my Kenmore Induction and my Miele Induction. But I can work around that.




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Post# 1063378 , Reply# 4   3/16/2020 at 06:29 (1,501 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Yes Eddie

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We have to Kraut it UP !

 


Post# 1063379 , Reply# 5   3/16/2020 at 06:32 (1,501 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Really ?

Cookware issues ?

Hmmmmmm..... That's surprising.


Post# 1063383 , Reply# 6   3/16/2020 at 07:45 (1,501 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
New induction Samsung Range

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Wow Congratulations on your new range, I totally agree that cook-tops should use knobs instead of tedious touch controls.

 

Jeff and I specked a SS induction range for our cousin David & Kim when they redid their house in Chevy Chase two years ago, I am surprised that you did not order the dual oven feature where there is a divider that slides in the oven, I liked that feature almost as much as the blue lights around the burners.

 

We were discussing adding the blue lights to induction CTs 30 years ago, I even suggested that you should be able to switch them from blue to red for users that are more comfortable cooking on electric, red would also be safer around children as red is assoated with heat.

 

Let us know what you cook up, [ remember your diet, LOL ]

 

John L.


Post# 1063385 , Reply# 7   3/16/2020 at 08:10 (1,501 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
Oven with divider

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Your new range is beautiful.  Is that a Wear Ever Chicken Fryer on the stove top?  I had one years ago!!  I didn't realize there was an issue with people with pacemakers.  I love the feature with the lights and those big knobs--very manly.  :)

 

I have a Samsung oven with the divider and love it.  I just used it yesterday.  I was using convection in the top and regular heat in the bottom.  Very cool feature.


Post# 1063388 , Reply# 8   3/16/2020 at 08:54 (1,501 days old) by sfh074 ( )        
Who makes this oven??

Surprised to not see a big logo on this. Or am I missing seeing it?


Post# 1063395 , Reply# 9   3/16/2020 at 10:03 (1,501 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Its made by Samsung

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Yeah I was on the fence about the double oven but I can see its use.  But Raph how do you cook a 20 pound turkey? Does the divider come out? 
I have a double oven Thermadore set sitting in the basement that I still intend to use so I didnt make this a priority. Boy that oven heats FAST! 

 

Ralph,  that is not a chicken fryer but it will fry chicken under pressure! That is my 35+ year old Pro Selections Super Cooker ( no longer made by FAGOR ) Love that thing I use it almost every week. 

 

 


Post# 1063396 , Reply# 10   3/16/2020 at 10:13 (1,501 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Nice one!

We saw it at Best Buy yesterday. All the employees were wearing face masks.
While we still really like our 2007 model year GE Profile dual fuel, I'd consider one. Not sure about hubby, he really likes gas. The only thing I notice is the oven door doesn't have that "heavy" feel like our GE. For some reason I like that it feels substantial.
As far as krauting it up goes, companies print safety warnings these days to cover themselves from stupid law suits. Face it, some are just plain "sue crazy".


Post# 1063397 , Reply# 11   3/16/2020 at 10:15 (1,501 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
Divider

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Yes it comes out so you use it as one big oven or two small ones.  It's very flexible.  I use it more as one oven than I do as two but it is nice to have.  Hubby hated the toaster oven on the counter so I use the divider and heat half the oven when I would normally use the toaster oven.  When you slide out the divider the screen changes to show its one oven.

 

I had one that looked exactly like that and it was a chicken fryer under pressure.  Made the BEST fried chicken.  I'm not sure whatever happened to it.


Post# 1063398 , Reply# 12   3/16/2020 at 10:17 (1,501 days old) by sfh074 ( )        
Glad to see Samsung ......

making something right.  Stand clear of their refrigerators.

 

I've worked on my huge french door model 3 times now and I think I finally got the defrost issue fixed once and for all.  Had to add an extra defrost heater in the evap core in the main food compartment. Also moved the defrost sensor closer to the main line coming into this evap core. This allows for longer defrost cycles to have a chance to melt the ice build-up.  As for the upper ice maker, no hope for that POS. I love how the engineers allowed only a 1/4" clearance where the ice has to fall thru just past the ice tray area. If there is any frost in this area, the ice gets wedged and can't fall into the ice bin.

 

I did fix this issue eventually by adding a water valve in the water supply line going to the ice maker .... so as to reduce the size of the ice cube and now it is small enough to make it into the ice bin w/o getting stuck on its way down. PFFT  No issues with the lower ice maker thank goodness.


Post# 1063401 , Reply# 13   3/16/2020 at 10:35 (1,501 days old) by bigalsf (Salt Lake City)        
Wow!!

Nice range! Congratulations! We are planning a kitchen remodel and are considering this range. Is the bottom drawer for warming or just storage?

Ralph, regarding the double oven, when using both does each oven hold it's own temp fairly accurately? Can the divider be left in for self cleaning?



Post# 1063403 , Reply# 14   3/16/2020 at 10:55 (1,501 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
Dual Flex Oven

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As far as the temps are concerned, so far so good.  There a limitations to what you can do at the same time.  For example, I can convection in the top and bottom at the same time but I can't do radiant heat in both.  I can do convection at the top only with radiant on the bottom.  The heating element in the lower oven is hidden.  I can only use Steam as a total oven but not the top or bottom.  I have not found a scenario yet where the combinations haven't worked for what I do.

 

I don't think you can leave the divider in while self cleaning but mine hasn't been dirty enough to worry about it.  I tend to wipe up spills as they happen and while it's hot.  The only issue I have is the window not getting clean.  I have to try some oven cleaner on that.  In one picture you can see where I was cooking two things at once and the other you can see the window.  I hate that and will try come oven cleaner when I think to buy it.

 

If you like to bake you will love this oven.  This is a picture proofing Pandesol.  I use the bread proofing all the time for bread, pizza, etc.


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Post# 1063404 , Reply# 15   3/16/2020 at 11:00 (1,501 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Yes the bottom

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drawer is a warming drawer too. Nice feature for warm plates.


Post# 1063418 , Reply# 16   3/16/2020 at 14:41 (1,501 days old) by Maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
May it

give you many years of good service, Jon! My next kitchen, which may be a while, is going to have induction.


Lawrence/Maytagbear


Post# 1063434 , Reply# 17   3/16/2020 at 18:57 (1,501 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

WHAT???? No GE???? Kerslap!!!!! Enjoy!!!!!

Post# 1063445 , Reply# 18   3/16/2020 at 21:19 (1,501 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Very nice stove you have there, Jon! I tend to shy away from anything Samsung after dealing with a fridge by them that died after 4 short years and the Samsung built Neptunes that I had back in 2005 that bit the dust after 3 years. But that said, I hope that they have finally got their act together and this stove lasts you. It looks pretty rugged and well made. Time will tell. I do like that feature where it lights your pots showing which one is on and the heating intensity.

Post# 1063459 , Reply# 19   3/17/2020 at 00:24 (1,501 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Looks great. Strange about how a pan can work fine on one induction cooktop and not another. I had that happen as well with just one med size pot of a set. They all worked on the portable and they all but the medium are working on my new stove. I tried it on the large, both mediums, and smallest burner,, nothing, it just doesn't recognize it for some strange reason.

If you're looking for a two burner griddle that will work on induction I bought this Cuisinart one and I'm a little disappointed with it because it warped a tiny bit so it doesn't sit completely flat now and the heat isn't as even across it towards the edges as I'd hoped and as the ad states. It does work though and it's easy to clean.


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Post# 1063498 , Reply# 20   3/17/2020 at 07:45 (1,500 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Pete

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I was looking at this griddle its pure cast iron. Take a gander --



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Post# 1063508 , Reply# 21   3/17/2020 at 09:45 (1,500 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Jon. Just read the review on that,, One person says that you can only use the grill side because the griddle side is flat against the glass.. but it won't work with the griddle side up, because not enough contact against the glass.. Suppose you can always try it. I've read about other cast iron ones that won't work because of the design keeping the surface too far off the glass.

Post# 1063588 , Reply# 22   3/17/2020 at 18:56 (1,500 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Cookware For Induction Cooktops

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Generally does not need to be all that flat, A lot of my pans are old and warped and they cook just as well, I can actually raise one side of a pan over 1/2" off the cooktop and it still boils just as fast on the raised side that is not touching the glass.

 

The thing you need to be careful about is there is an overheat sensor under the center of the cooking area and if the pan is not in pretty good contact you can overheat the pan more easily if you boil it dry.

 

John 

 

Photo #1, flat on CT, #2 raised 3/8" at 12 o'clock, #3 whole pan on a sheet of 1/4" thick pyroceram glass.


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Post# 1063638 , Reply# 23   3/18/2020 at 05:31 (1,499 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        
Love it!

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If I were going with electric I'd take that range too.  I'm also hesitant with SS branded things since the Maytag/Samsung Neptune fiasco but that's certainly a nice range.  My house isn't wired for electric range and there really isn't a spare slot in the fuse box so I'll stick with the Duxtop portable cooktop unless I'm doing a large meal and then I'll use the 5 gas burners.  My dream kitchen will have two stoves...gas on one side and induction on the other.


Post# 1063640 , Reply# 24   3/18/2020 at 05:58 (1,499 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Im not giving up my

Aluminum cookware , Ill stick to vintage.


Post# 1063642 , Reply# 25   3/18/2020 at 06:37 (1,499 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Jon, do the surface unit controls have timers in them? My 1800 watt Vollrath unit has the timer so I often bring something up to cooking temperature on the 3000 watt Cook Tek unit and then move it to the lower wattage one, set the energy level and the timer and let it tend itself.  It's only taken 60 something years since Hotpoint offered timed termination of surface cooking for it to reappear. 


Post# 1063647 , Reply# 26   3/18/2020 at 07:37 (1,499 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Timed Surface Burners

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Hi Tom, Don't forget that Kelvinator Electric ranges also had timed surface elements, I just worked on a 1971 40"one the other week.

 

Samsung Reliability ?

 

This is a big question, We have found that there is not as much difference in reliability of cooking appliances, I generally tell my customers to uy pretty much any Gas or Electric CT they like as there is not that much difference and most never get repaired anyway.

 

It becomes a little less clear with a range, GEs build quality is still a lot better than any other other domestic range and SS is very poor about suppling parts after a few years so who knows whether this will be a great choice.

 

One thing I will do in life is to buy performance over reliability whether in an automobile or appliances, That is why I will never have a SQ TL washer or a Maytag DC washer in my personal laundry the Mts can live in the museum, after all appliances and cars can be repaired once in a while.

 

John L.


Post# 1063691 , Reply# 27   3/18/2020 at 15:19 (1,499 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Sometimes you get a real FIND on ebay!

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Since my new Range hemorrhaged on most of my vintage cookware that left me with 3 pots. Not enough if you are a serious cook. One of the things jettisoned was my clam steamer after 40 years! On Ole Cape Cod that is a MUST!! 

So off shopping I went , saw nice stuff at IKEA , ungodly nice stuff at All Clad made of pure Unobtanium , Calphalon has nice stuff too.   But noodling ebay I found this baby! I got wind because as you saw above Im still using my 35+ year old Fagor pressure cooker and found out Fagor America and Spain have closed their doors. So their cookers will be on fire sale. Such high quality I never worry about durability, in 35 years I have only replaced a gasket once! And I found out too a little secret, it seems Fagor was not a manufacturer, their cookers seem to turn up in the Magefesa line sold at Macy's and BBB. It seems to me that Fagor was a rebranded Magefesa. So with that in mind I found this cooker/steamer for the ridiculous price of $36! And because so many of  you are terrified of pressure cookers it is brand spanking new. 

 

I'm testing my theory as I just purchased a new gasket for my 35+ cooker from Magefesa, lets see if it fits when it arrives. My bet is it will fit. I will post when I get it. 


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Post# 1063693 , Reply# 28   3/18/2020 at 15:22 (1,499 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Happy Cookers All

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My 35+ Fagor super cooker humming along side the new Fagor Steamer. 


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Post# 1063694 , Reply# 29   3/18/2020 at 15:27 (1,499 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Tom

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I don't know if this unit has timed burners, I will dig out the manual again and peruse. My Miele did but it was difficult to program I never got it quite right.

 

 


Post# 1063703 , Reply# 30   3/18/2020 at 17:08 (1,499 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

Its ok Jon, Michael cant program the timer on the Miele induction either, it must just be an age thing, it takes 3 button presses for me :)

Post# 1063709 , Reply# 31   3/18/2020 at 18:00 (1,499 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Brisnat81

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FOUND SLAPPED AND DAZED in a garden in BRISBANE !!!

 


Post# 1063718 , Reply# 32   3/18/2020 at 18:32 (1,499 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

John, I never had exposure to Kelvinator ranges other than my grandmother's bol mid 50s model which I saw twice at 8 and 12 years old in Milwaukee. I am still amazed at how she went from using a coal range in cold weather and a kerosene stove in the summer kitchen to using that Kelvinator when she did not speak English. I guess the youngest daughter explained things to her like the words for the heats. When we were there, my mom did the cooking and did not have any trouble using the electric range when she cooked with gas at home.

There was another range with a timer for the "giant 2100 watt 8" surface unit" and the deep well, both ovens and the appliance outlet, but it was part of the start/stop feature of the clock. It was a Coolerator from Duluth, MN and the ad made much of ITT's (International Telephone and Telegraph's) merger and the features that brought to Coolerator ranges. That was on a 1952 model shown in an ad in a December, 1951 BH&G. It was quite a nice range with 7 push button heats. Has anyone ever seen a Coolerator range?


Post# 1063725 , Reply# 33   3/18/2020 at 19:23 (1,499 days old) by bigalsf (Salt Lake City)        

Thank you Ralph & Jon for the replies. The inability to use radiant heat in the top oven may be a deal breaker, but we'll have to see (he's the cook, not I :) )

Jon I will check with you in a few months to get your feedback on the ovens performance. Have fun and bon apetite!


Post# 1069407 , Reply# 34   4/26/2020 at 13:04 (1,460 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Westinghouse Sort Of Had Timed Surface Units in 1941

I was going through some old range manuals last night and made a discovery. In 1941, Westinghouse ranges had unusual names for the models. At the top of the line were the Emperor, Regent and Commander. There was a round dial under the surface unit switch that functioned more like Frigidaire's auto-switch heat control for their Thermizer unit. Frigidaire's Thermizer heat control had a timed portion of the control for HIGH heat after which it switched to SIMMER, I think, to finish cooking.

The Westinghouse Single Set Switch offered a several possibilities in its automatic switching to a lower heat. For most cooking operations, the pan of food was placed on the unit and the surface unit switch was set to SIMMER. Then the Single Set Switch was set to the length of time the unit needed to operate on HIGH before switching to SIMMER. It would then operate on that heat until manually shut off.

If used with the Economy Cooker, the surface unit switch was set to LOW and the Single Set Switch was set to the full 30 minutes to make sure the lower wattage unit had enough time to bring the 5 quart pan to a boil on HIGH before switching to LOW, the heat setting used to finish all cooking in the Economy Cooker. A third sort of strange way of using the feature was to leave the surface unit switch in the OFF position and just use the Single Set Switch. They give the example of cooking dried fruit. The surface unit switch is left in the OFF position and the Single Set Switch was set for 30 minutes. This caused the surface unit to operate on the MEDIUM HIGH for the selected time and then switch to OFF, using the stored heat in the element to finish cooking. Westinghouse was a strong proponent of cooking with the current off using the stored heat in the unit.

I guess that this feature was a casualty of the war. It was available on two surface units of the Emperor and one surface unit and the Economy Cooker on the Regent and one surface unit on the Commander. Maybe it was too complicated.




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