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Hoover keymatic 3224 in sweden, help please
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Post# 1064658   3/26/2020 at 06:15 (1,097 days old) by Sweasko (Sweden)        

Ive just got a hoover keymatic the oldes modell 3224,
Ive got it for free, and a can post a pic later 😀, but the biggest issue is the door seal boot...
Wounder if someone can tell if i Google the door seal gasket, that the dbt28 seems to fit? Or some other suggestions? I have not powerd it up jet, 😄 hehe 2phase 400v erth, no neutral the manual says in swedish, its a 3wire cabel 2,5mm2 , 3000watt heating, so i guess its made for just 2phase and the neutral is together with eart in the machine? abit nervus about that, would not like to toast the washer.





Post# 1064659 , Reply# 1   3/26/2020 at 06:28 (1,097 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoover keymatic 3224 in sweden

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Welcome Christer to the Hoover Keymatic 3224 club, a great machine, a very complicated build and many about , alas which is more we can say for the door boots...like hens teeth,
we are looking into having a batch made but they will not be here soon with the cost.

Please post some pics of your machine along with the reatings plate and am sure you will get the information you need..


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Post# 1064672 , Reply# 2   3/26/2020 at 08:47 (1,097 days old) by Sweasko (Sweden)        

Tanks in gonna update you with info here is the pics of the door boot gasket i thught would fit,
This shuld match alot of other early hoover modells.

The thing is my house is buildt in 1964, hand the lady i bought the hose from had one in the 60s. Her brother sold them here in sweden, and I saw this for free in Facebook market... could not let this go to the junk yard. In the enemel drum it looks like new! But out side, not that nice, i think they vent over to asea washer in early 70s we live near by the old factory there the Made cylinda Asko washer,
That i also have in my lundryroom cylinda 11003 1991,


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Post# 1064674 , Reply# 3   3/26/2020 at 09:11 (1,097 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoover Keymatic..

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Hi Christer

Unfortunatly non of those will fit, the keymatic slope front is a one off design, the portholes are different sizes and the connecting rubber is wider at the bottome than the top so when the tub drops when filling or moving when bouncing around its able to flex with it ...we have tried many including commercial and none are any where near fitting and sealing, sorry to say.

The type of rubber just appears to perish and wither with age..


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Post# 1064675 , Reply# 4   3/26/2020 at 09:19 (1,097 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
Hi Sweasko

sadly the door boots/gaskets you show won't fit, they are from the 70's and 80's automatics. in the case of the keymatic, the diameter of the tub is quite a bit smaller than any other front loaders I know of, except perhaps an idesit L5 type, which I've not measured, plus the whole tub lowers during the wash so the depth of the keymatic boot is bigger than that of front loaders that we all know.

But many are also looking for solutions as Mike has said. One thought I had was, and you being interested in Asko might have the parts to test the idea out. Could an asko type door be fitted to the keymatic, and the front panel be opened up to enable such a door to be used. A radical idea maybe, but could be a way forward, plus the door could be closed and the wash still be viewed.

Just sharing the idea, lol, I know we all love to keep to the original.

All the best, we'd enjoy any photos

Mathew



Post# 1064677 , Reply# 5   3/26/2020 at 09:50 (1,097 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
another early test

enabled me to see the machine run, but not a workable solution. This is a Hoover classica / new wave boot/gasket, which sits in the cabinet opening really well, a nice deep boot, but the tub diameters are completely wrong, so that the top is open due to the extra that won't clamp to the tub.

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Post# 1064678 , Reply# 6   3/26/2020 at 09:57 (1,097 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
not a good photo

but it at least shows that the boot stretched enough when the tub drops, but it's still not a complete seal to the tub, the inside of the machine would be exposed to splashes and steam, but did enable me to see the machine run. This was many years ago, so can't add to what I've shown here sorry.

mathew


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Post# 1064683 , Reply# 7   3/26/2020 at 10:47 (1,097 days old) by Sweasko (Sweden)        

Okey well if there is plenty of us needing gaskets, maybe we can split the costs, a bet it would be a good trade on EBay and alot more would need one, is it so that you are going to renare the original gasket chestersmike? Or do you know who? Put me on the list, .. if tis rusty old moonlander thing from brittan Spears to star 😄 som pics of the old lady.. I have to spin. Its ben in a cold badmend sens new it looks 😞 all other rubber houses seems to be fine, and the clutch brake sems to not look to bad...
is there any here that charge the tubseal in bottom/ driveshaft, I think it shuld be needed new there as vell and layers


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Post# 1064753 , Reply# 8   3/27/2020 at 01:51 (1,096 days old) by Sweasko (Sweden)        

Well i have an idea Im gonna try, i was thinking about that door gasket to hoover new wave, what ive understod it fited perfekt in cabinetopening but to lage at the drum opening, i thougt maybe i could cutt it in the top part and use a strong elastic rubber tape for marine use, it dosent seem to be that much of water in top part, there is also a product from loctite havy duty flexglue , what u think? I think Im gonna try if its anyway impossible to get a new door boot. I think It would be worth epxeriment with

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Post# 1064756 , Reply# 9   3/27/2020 at 03:17 (1,096 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoover Keymatic

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Good thinking Christer, after Mathew showed that set up yesterday my mind has been whirring thinking the same, at this point nothing ventured nothing gained.

Lots of marine glues seals and tapes around, look forward to hearing about your testing out !!

Heres one of mine, the rubber just perishes and turns to mush !!

Good Luck and keep us updated !!


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Post# 1065032 , Reply# 10   3/29/2020 at 09:44 (1,094 days old) by Sesteve (London, UK)        

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Lovely machine there. Iíve often wondered if you could try reinforcing the existing seal using and old boot and some rubber glue before you try taking it off. I think it will depend on how knackered the old seal is but could be worth a try. Could also look to use thinner rubber such as that used for wet suit repair or rubber pond liner as itís more flexible so could be moulded into the right shape. This glue is pretty good for rubber.

Good luck. Look forward to hearing about progress
Steve


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