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Post# 1067573   4/16/2020 at 07:29 (1,075 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )        

Probably one of my most thorough rebuilds yet. Hope you all enjoy!






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Post# 1067591 , Reply# 1   4/16/2020 at 10:08 (1,075 days old) by JustJunque (Western MA)        
Eugene,

That...was...awesome!!!
As someone with zero mechanical ability, that was beyond amazing.
I loved the addition of the musical score. The tear-down almost sounded sad. Like the machine may have thought it was the end of the road.
Then, the meticulous labor of love on every nut and bolt.
Finally, the glorious and triumphant return to life!
I think I may have teared up just a little.
Man...I wish there weren't so many miles between us.
As the kids say, I'd be all; "Shut up and take my money!"
Not to mention, the fact that you could do it all in less than twenty minutes! 😉
Beautiful work!

Barry




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Post# 1067593 , Reply# 2   4/16/2020 at 10:17 (1,075 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

LOVE IT!!! What did you use to clean up and off the transmission shaft? And, what is the name of the sound quieter you used?

Post# 1067595 , Reply# 3   4/16/2020 at 10:56 (1,075 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Our 1995 Maytag

5 cycle Fabric-Matic was working perfectly still when hubby insisted on replacing it when the vintage 1988 Halo-of-heat gas dryer wore out in 2007. That only happened because we were all working a lot still, and the kids didn't tell me soon enough when it got noisy. The bulkhead sliced deeply into the drum and peforated it.

Post# 1067604 , Reply# 4   4/16/2020 at 11:20 (1,075 days old) by robbinsandmyers (Conn)        

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THIS VIDEO GIVES ME LIFE!!!!!! Great job !!!


Post# 1067616 , Reply# 5   4/16/2020 at 13:18 (1,075 days old) by Jasonlittle (Southern iowa)        

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This is an awesome video I agree. Yes I was also wondering what the noise deadening material is that you put all over the inside of the machine. I would love to get some of that and put in both my washer and dryer. Even though they are both pretty quiet as they are. I would still not complain to add that extra bit of noise deadening to it .

Post# 1067644 , Reply# 6   4/16/2020 at 15:28 (1,075 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        

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awesome love those tags

Post# 1067657 , Reply# 7   4/16/2020 at 16:55 (1,075 days old) by hobbyapocalypse (Northeast Pennsylvania)        
Tchaikovsky's Maytag Symphony in AW major

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A first class classical rebuild!

Was wondering if you ever replaced the brake gasket that ripped apart on disassembly. That happened to me and I cut a replacement out of a piece of heavy paper about the same thickness, but haven't put it back together yet.

Looked like you had some trouble getting the tub cover back on. That's why I'm afraid to take mine off to do a thorough rebuild as you did.

That video is really really AWesome, man. Thanks for letting us look over the shoulder of a master at work!!


Post# 1067666 , Reply# 8   4/16/2020 at 18:33 (1,075 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

Wonderful job!  That machine is ready for another 42 years.


Post# 1067667 , Reply# 9   4/16/2020 at 19:21 (1,075 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )        
Sound proofing

The stuff for the lid


http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-...

The thick foamy stuff

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-...


CLICK HERE TO GO TO Lorainfurniture's LINK on eBay


Post# 1067669 , Reply# 10   4/16/2020 at 19:33 (1,075 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )        
@hobbyapocalypse

That brake ďgasketĒ is just to isolate noise. As long as itís there mostly itís fine. Make sure you grease up the pads if you ended up washing them. I didnít and the washer started screeching when braking. I rubbed grease on it and it did fine.

I really struggle with the lid. Itís not hard yet for some reason itís my Achilles heel. Itís just too damn adjustable. I would recommend making some markings so you can set it back the same depth as you removed it. Itís a pretty fun machine to rebuild. Like assembling a tank.


Post# 1067675 , Reply# 11   4/16/2020 at 19:46 (1,075 days old) by sprog (Boston)        
Nicely Done!

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Eugene,
I salute you. Longtime fan of your work. Can you comment on the sound deadening material? Automotive? The link isn't working for me. Once again... RESPECT.
Chris


Post# 1067678 , Reply# 12   4/16/2020 at 20:14 (1,075 days old) by Jasonlittle (Southern iowa)        

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Iím having the same issue. The link takes me to the eBay homepage but thatís it.

Post# 1067684 , Reply# 13   4/16/2020 at 20:51 (1,075 days old) by Blackstone (Springfield, Massachusetts)        
The Wrench!

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In case you missed it, the highlight of the video was the wrench (with my name on it).

Kidding aside, this is the best video that I have seen in a long time. Great work!

It sure is easier to put in the washers on the outside of the tub when the cabinet it removed. Even when using rubber cement to hold them in place, it was always a pain to get those bolts to go through the washers and brackets. I'm referring to Blackstones, of course.

I must share this video, to friends who are not members of this club.


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Post# 1067685 , Reply# 14   4/16/2020 at 21:12 (1,075 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        

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Very nice!  The 1812 Overture is a great touch too!


Post# 1067689 , Reply# 15   4/16/2020 at 21:58 (1,075 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )        

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-...

Post# 1067690 , Reply# 16   4/16/2020 at 22:00 (1,075 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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It's a fookin' dreamscape, Dude. Unbelievable and mesmerizing to the point that I think I'm seeing things: Was there a shot of a pushbutton 900 or 906 somewhere in the vid? Many thanks for Herculean work, Eugene. Again, unbelievable and breath-taking!

Post# 1067693 , Reply# 17   4/16/2020 at 22:24 (1,075 days old) by Washerlover (The Big Island, Hawaiíi)        
Speechless!

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Kudos to an amazing video and machine restoration!  Am breathless with admiration!


Post# 1067694 , Reply# 18   4/16/2020 at 22:44 (1,075 days old) by vacman1961 (North Babylon, New York)        

Beautiful rebuild job, what do you sell a machine like that for in your store?


Post# 1067695 , Reply# 19   4/16/2020 at 23:26 (1,075 days old) by felix (S„o Paulo - Brazil)        
amazing

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wonderful restoration Eugene! I hope one day to see these washers in person.

Post# 1067704 , Reply# 20   4/17/2020 at 02:33 (1,074 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Maytag Restoration

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Wow Eugene, what another fabulous restoration, great to see full tear down and restore. love the Fred spanner and extras with the quiet pak sound insulation, and of course finishing touch of repair sticker and signature.

Cheers, Mike


Post# 1067725 , Reply# 21   4/17/2020 at 05:36 (1,074 days old) by Ricky5050 (Durham Britain)        
Wow !

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That looks amazing !!

Do you fancy a holiday in the UK ? Iíve got a UK Hotpoint that could do with some tlc?

Bring your tools!!

Richard


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Post# 1067727 , Reply# 22   4/17/2020 at 06:07 (1,074 days old) by Easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC)        
STUPENDOUS!!!!! BRAVO!!!!

I feel like I've been to the symphony!!!   They are GREAT machines and your work was unbelievable.

 

Thank you for sharing that experience.

 

Jerry Gay


Post# 1067729 , Reply# 23   4/17/2020 at 06:29 (1,074 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Best Rebuild Video Yet

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This is a must see video for anyone thinking about rebuilding a MT DC Washer, and the best thing is you did it in just over 15 minutes with only one clothing change.

 

Do you have a good estimate how long it actually took ?

 

It would also be interesting to see a list of parts used and cost so others would have a better idea of how much of an investment of time and money this really takes.

 

When we get inspired and motivated to completely rebuild a WP BD washer as we have done a few times in the last year people complain and look at me like I am crazy if we ask even $500 for it, I have ended up just selling them to our regular customers who appreciate the quality of our work.

 

Hopefully this MT will find a home where it is appreciated and will not be pitched the first time it needs a repair in the next year or so.

 

Keep the cool videos coming, Eugene, thanks

 

John L.


Post# 1067730 , Reply# 24   4/17/2020 at 06:32 (1,074 days old) by keymatic (Surrey.U.K)        

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Hey Richard,

Nice looking Hotpoint 1500 - only difference I guess is Maytag parts are in abundance whereby 1500 parts are a lot more scarce :(

If he came over, he would be here for the foreseeable future with all the machines that need looking at LOL

Cheers
Keith


Post# 1067746 , Reply# 25   4/17/2020 at 08:31 (1,074 days old) by sfh074 ( )        
Wow .....

where did you find this near mint MT washer? Looked like it only had 50 miles on it before you started! Great job and nice video ...


Post# 1067760 , Reply# 26   4/17/2020 at 09:16 (1,074 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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The eBay link in Reply #15 still doesn't work.

Are you logged-in to your eBay account when copying the browser link?† Perhaps you need to log-out before searching the item(s) so the link(s) aren't coded to it?

Or just advise of the products by name you're using so people can search them directly?


Post# 1067766 , Reply# 27   4/17/2020 at 09:59 (1,074 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )        




https://www.ebay.com/itm/12x-Car-Floor-D...


Post# 1067769 , Reply# 28   4/17/2020 at 10:19 (1,074 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )        
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John L: I probably spent a bit north of $600 in parts restoring this machine. Im actually compiling a list now. Its intense. The most expensive parts were the pump ($60), seal/bearing ($70ish), agitator shaft (NOS $60), and the rest was bearings, paint, rubber o rings, gaskets, cleaning supplies etc.

Time: Its hard to gauge as I worked on it a bit piecemeal, and a lot of wait time for parts to arrive, paint to dry etc. Id guess about 20 solid man hours from start to finish.

I sold the set yesterday to a wonderful couple that saw the video for $2500


Post# 1067773 , Reply# 29   4/17/2020 at 11:31 (1,074 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Nice work, Eugene! Knowing what it takes to find and gather parts, your costs for this set is really are on par with the reality of a full on restoration.

We have it good in this hobby; on the automotive side it's really easy to spend five figures on just parts, before labor.

Ben


Post# 1067852 , Reply# 30   4/17/2020 at 20:07 (1,074 days old) by nilfiskGA70 (Limerick, Ireland)        

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Watched that video from start to finish, great job! The inflatable cuffs used to prise off the agitator look very like the blood pressure kit my doc uses! As regards sound deadening, I converted a van to a camper a few years ago and used something similar called Dynamat, expensive but good at taming the racket off a 2.5 litre diesel engine. That gearbox oil looked pretty rank - so much for 'lubed for life' - also liked the way it was signed off with pride, just like the Aston Martin's engine-builder.

Post# 1067867 , Reply# 31   4/17/2020 at 22:52 (1,074 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Maytag transmission oil back in the day

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We never could figure out what MT put in their transmissions, the closest we could come is they used the sludge from the sewage plant in  Newton Iowa, I have certainly never en anything that bad in any other washer transmission..

 

John L.


Post# 1067927 , Reply# 32   4/18/2020 at 07:51 (1,073 days old) by dishmobile (Nashville, TN)        
Brilliant!

Well done! My father sold Maytags, just like this one, when I was a kid and I helped deliver/install many. Recently, I replaced the bearings in my Neptune, and so I really, really appreciate your attention to detail/work on this machine. Love dem center-dial 'TAGS! Again...well done!

Post# 1067972 , Reply# 33   4/18/2020 at 16:40 (1,073 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
MAYTAG

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Thoroughly enjoyable Eugene. I absolutely loved it!

Post# 1068003 , Reply# 34   4/18/2020 at 18:50 (1,073 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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I see damage to the upper shaft of the transmission housing where it rides on the upper bearing. Keep in mind that those sleeve bearings will be damaged long before the shaft is and they don't heal themselves.

I always replace those sleeve bearings during a rebuild even if the shaft appears fine. Maytag never made those available so you're on your own there.

Also, pressing the pin in and out of the pinion gear greatly reduces the chances of damaging those sleeve bearings during both removal and installation (especially when using new sleeve bearings). It also prevents from damaging the shaft, which can crack under stress (usually cracks at the collar). Ignore the Maytag manual when it recommends pounding the pin out of the gear.


Post# 1068258 , Reply# 35   4/20/2020 at 04:05 (1,071 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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That was great!


Post# 1068284 , Reply# 36   4/20/2020 at 09:53 (1,071 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        
Oh My!

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Only one way to describe this video - and I have to edit what I say because I'm in the wrong forum to really say what my mind says - "In-f*****-credible"!!!!!

 

And what's really amazing is it only took 16 minutes.

 

lawrence


Post# 1068791 , Reply# 37   4/23/2020 at 09:10 (1,068 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
OMG Eugene

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I was riveted! Its so fun to tear a machine completely down and build it back up again new! Very satisfying when you pull the covers up at night ! 

Nice polish job on that agitate shaft, you polished the protective paint right back onto it LOL !

 

 

But what was that black hose you installed above the motor up to the tub??? Suds overload dump??

 

And what is your secret on polishing that chrome, perhaps we have a mounted buffing motor someplace with jewelers rouge ????

 

Sound deadening on a MAYTAG?? Really?? I guess John and our contest ( which I won BTW) sparked a new trend! Gansky is installing it on the Combo right now!1 

 




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Post# 1068827 , Reply# 38   4/23/2020 at 10:56 (1,068 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Black On The MT A806

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Hi Jon, That is the bleach dump hose, it allows the bleach to enter the outer to mix with water first.

Jon, Jon you lost the 1-18 competition for quietness by over 40 points, your hearing aid needs new batteries.

John L.


Post# 1068886 , Reply# 39   4/23/2020 at 18:35 (1,068 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )        
The chrome

This washer was in really good condition coming in. The chrome was very decent to begin with but my process is as follows:

Already in nice condition: clean with warm soap and water. Buff with towel. Sometimes a bit of rouge and wheel if I have my try-hard pants on.

Kind of rough: 0000 steel wool and oil. Follow up with rouge and wheel. If the chrome has the little pits in it, Iíll pass on the rouge and try a wax.


Peeling, otherwise bad condition: $$$$$$$ chrome shop here we come.

The soundproofing has become a bit of a trademark, itís my way of making it slightly better thatís new. It did make a difference on the Maytag but not night and day.


Post# 1069105 , Reply# 40   4/24/2020 at 20:04 (1,067 days old) by mjg0619 (Scranton, Pennsylvania)        
Absolutely BEAUTIFUL, Eugene!

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Looks and sounds brand new. Loved watching all the videos you posted of this 806.

Btw, I tried sending you a message through the contact form on your store's website a few weeks ago. Not sure if it went through or if it got lost in the black holes of cyberspace!


Post# 1069145 , Reply# 41   4/25/2020 at 07:15 (1,066 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
JOHN L!!

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SLAP!!!!!!

 

"Jon, Jon you lost the 1-18 competition for quietness by over 40 points, your hearing aid needs new batteries. 

John L. "

Post# 1069590 , Reply# 42   4/27/2020 at 18:53 (1,064 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )        
Reaching me

Sorry Iíve been running the whole store solo since this covid19 business. Iím having a hard time keeping up with everything. The store is super busy I can barely put out a YouTube video every other week. Going from 5 employees to 1 is pretty intense.

Iím sorry to anyone I have not responded to, I will when I get a bit more caught up. If itís something you need and is time sensitive just call my shop during business hours.



Post# 1070537 , Reply# 43   5/2/2020 at 21:21 (1,059 days old) by sambootoo (Moody, AL)        

Beautiful Maytag and beautiful resto. Thanks for your work and for sharing with the rest of us!


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