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Thread Number: 82794
/ Tag: Modern Dishwashers
Quality of Fisher and Paykel |
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Post# 1069699 , Reply# 1 4/28/2020 at 12:13 (1,459 days old) by chachp  (North Little Rock, AR) |
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PODS in dishdrawers?
I have always wondered if PODS are too much detergent for a dish drawer? Is it possible its too much soap for that amount of water? I don't have the drawers so I don't know for sure but sure seems to me that you would want to use less. I have a countertop dishwasher that I use occasionally and the pods in that machine are way too much and at the end of the cycle its clear they didn't get rinsed very well even with rinse aid.
Just a thought. I'm not an expert in this matter. | ||
| Post# 1069706 , Reply# 2 4/28/2020 at 12:51 (1,459 days old) by whatsername (Denver, CO) | ||
I use powder in my dish drawers. I get flawless performance and while the dishes are wet right when it’s done they dry quickly overnight or after leaving the drawer open a crack for an hour or 2. Have you cleaned the filter regularly? The wash system is also pretty easy to take apart and clean, since your machine had previous owners maybe it needs a deep clean.
You could also break the pod in half if it’s a tablet type | ||
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Post# 1069710 , Reply# 3 4/28/2020 at 13:10 (1,459 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI) |
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Post# 1069711 , Reply# 4 4/28/2020 at 13:10 (1,459 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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 There's really no such thing as a "low end" model DishDrawer. They all operate the same ... other than some specific models have an on-board water softener. There's also a DishDrawer Wide which is 36" wide (double row of plates and two spray arms) but I doubt that's what you have. Detergent pods are an overdose. I have appreciably hard water (private well, not city service) and I get TONS of foaming from pods (I've tried only Cascade Platinum) to the point that spray force and rotation speed of the arm is impaired. That being said, current DD models have reprogrammed cycles that use less water compared to older models. My DD603 is 16 years old and takes 0.8 gals per fill but has five water changes on the Normal cycle (4 gals), 4 fills on Normal Eco (3.2 gal), SEVEN water changes on Heavy (5.6 gals total). Are you sure it's only 1.8 gals for the entire Heavy cycle? How many fills/drains do you hear through the cycle? | ||
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Post# 1069823 , Reply# 6 4/29/2020 at 05:12 (1,458 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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F & P Dishwasher Dish Drawers Are an interesting and innovative product, But in our extensive experience they just don't make the grade with most consumers.
While handy to load [ the top one anyway ] they are not sophisticated in handling of food solids [ messy filter to clean ] therefor you end up doing a lot more dish prep when loading, and there is no heat dry option.
But the real problem is they are flimsy temperamental machines with poor repair records, I have lost track at how many of these we have replaced with regular DWs and the number I see every month at the several appliance recycling places I visit every month.
In full disclosure, we are about to install a single 24" F&P DW in our break room at work for coffee mugs etc, I found it at a habit Restore unused for $50. It should be fun and we can fix it when it breaks down, but in the real kitchen where we do real cooking we will keep the 1988 KM Ultra-Wash DW by Whirlpool.
That said if you are really into appliances and take very careful care of a F&P DWer you may be very happy with it, I guess its too bad the toy maker Mattel did not build them as it would be the ultimate toy for young appliance collectors, LOL
Best new DWs in IMEO are Maytags or less expensive WPs, skip the higher end KAs, Bosch, GEs, Mieles etc. Expensive DWs have expensive repairs much sooner and shorter life spans.
John L. | ||
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Post# 1070835 , Reply# 9 5/4/2020 at 17:10 (1,452 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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Post# 1070867 , Reply# 10 5/4/2020 at 19:45 (1,452 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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The absolute crappiest dishwasher I ran across was a Frigidaire Gallery model I bought at Costco around 1998. It was made of the cheapest materials, and the filter assembly was made of flimsy plastic that warped with the heat from the heating element. This, in turn, allowed food debris to get into the pump so it could be re-distributed on the ostensibly clean dishware. And to clog the wash arms. I finally had enough and was actually able to return the POS to Costco for a full refund - albeit without having to see multiple people about it.
I replaced it with a Bosch from Sears and haven't looked back. I did have to replace its drain pump motor at about 13 years, but it generally performs flawlessly. The Frigidaire was a horrid design fail. | ||
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