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Thread Number: 85
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Post# 45135 , Reply# 1 9/15/2004 at 01:31 (7,157 days old) by arrrooohhh  (Sydney Australia) |
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Whirlpool makes front loading washing machines for the European market. Maybe it was one of these machines. CLICK HERE TO GO TO arrrooohhh's LINK | ||
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Post# 45349 , Reply# 2 9/19/2004 at 00:59 (7,153 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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I saw this pair @ Lowe's today. Kinda cute, except that they are small. If I have it right, the washer is model LHW0050. It has rotary dials for spin speed and cycle selection, but they are electronic, and several pushbuttons for options and start/pause/whatever. If I remember correctly, there's a choice of seven or eight spin speeds. Both the washer and dryer have stainless steel drums. Sorry, I didn't write down the prices, but I think the washer was $479 and the dryer $399 (or was it $299???).
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Post# 45350 , Reply# 3 9/19/2004 at 01:48 (7,153 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia) |
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AU Whirlpool Our FL Whirlpools are supposed to be Italian made too I think. They look compact by American standards but they hold a 7kg load. The webiste has finally been updated to show the new TL Whirlpools that are available, or TOL is much lower spec'd than the US TOL. CLICK HERE TO GO TO brisnat81's LINK | ||
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Post# 45355 , Reply# 4 9/19/2004 at 04:26 (7,153 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 45380 , Reply# 5 9/19/2004 at 15:11 (7,152 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia) |
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Capacity Whirlpool in the FL over here, put it down to the 6th sense technology to get the extra capacity. In the dryer, one is 5 and 6kg, the drum is the same size, but they claim that 6th sense allows you to dry more in the same space. Whether its true or not, who knows? | ||
| Post# 45390 , Reply# 6 9/19/2004 at 19:25 (7,152 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
Lowe's Knows | ||
| Post# 45521 , Reply# 7 9/21/2004 at 11:14 (7,150 days old) by Christd1 () | ||
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New Whirlpool FLW @ Lowes Here are the details: Washer- LHW0050PQ 2.9 cu ft 24" 11 Cycles Built in heater RPM- 800/1000/1200 Under counter or stackable $697 | ||
| Post# 45529 , Reply# 8 9/21/2004 at 14:19 (7,150 days old) by Tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481) | ||
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| Post# 45570 , Reply# 10 9/22/2004 at 05:44 (7,150 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
Whirlpool compact front loaders
The Whirlpool front loaders look a lot like the Creda line made in Italy.I am not sure but Creda may be owned or a susidiary of Phillips who is owned by Whirlpool.The Credas are not that dependable----at least the older models weren't.They may have improved them.They are very attractive though and a 1200rpm spin is ok in my book.
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Post# 45572 , Reply# 11 9/22/2004 at 06:18 (7,149 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Philips vs Whirlpool vs Creda | ||
| Post# 45575 , Reply# 12 9/22/2004 at 08:13 (7,149 days old) by Christd1 () | ||
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Whirlpool 24 This product is made by Merloni in Italy. | ||
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Post# 45591 , Reply# 14 9/22/2004 at 15:28 (7,149 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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The one in the second link looks very similar to the Whirlpool at Lowe's. It has the little round door at the lower right to access the coin trap, a cycle selection dial on the right, and a spin speed dial kind of in the middle with a few buttons to the left of the spin speed control. If someone doesn't post a picture first, I'll try to get one the next time I'm at a Lowe's . . but I can't say when that might be. | ||
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Post# 45624 , Reply# 15 9/23/2004 at 00:46 (7,149 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia) |
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Does it look anything like this? 
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| Post# 45629 , Reply# 16 9/23/2004 at 08:08 (7,148 days old) by Christd1 () | ||
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Picture No, console is different, dispenser drawer handle/access is hidden by a flip up handle, different door style and pump access hole is square. | ||
| Post# 45637 , Reply# 19 9/23/2004 at 13:03 (7,148 days old) by christd1 () | ||
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Lowe's circular Here is a good pic... CLICK HERE TO GO TO christd1's LINK | ||
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Post# 45684 , Reply# 21 9/24/2004 at 02:48 (7,148 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Flabbergasted!!!!!
I am totally flabbergasted!!! What on earth is Whirlpool thinking!!! They sell their relatively good frontloaders all over the world and now they buy the worst from one of their competitors to sell on the American market. And what a price they are asking for it, overhere in Holland we wouldn't pay more than $350.- for that washer. And believe me it's not even worth that kind of money. Overhere I have read some statements that Whirlpool still sold washers that were quite reliable. I guess that time has come to an end now!
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Post# 45743 , Reply# 23 9/25/2004 at 15:44 (7,146 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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I went to bLowe's today to check it out. the pair look soooo tiny. I am not impressed with the simply dial your programme knob, just like on the Bosch Nexxt, and the instruction book had been removed. :-( Didn't even see any indicator lights to let you see where in the cycle it is. And how much time is remaining.
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Post# 45772 , Reply# 24 9/26/2004 at 03:59 (7,146 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 45780 , Reply# 25 9/26/2004 at 11:04 (7,145 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 45789 , Reply# 26 9/26/2004 at 13:51 (7,145 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 45850 , Reply# 27 9/26/2004 at 23:05 (7,145 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia) |
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I wonder if anyone has purchased one on this site or over in THS forum? I would be interested in how it does perform. Im still disgusted with Whirlpool though. | ||
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Post# 45861 , Reply# 28 9/27/2004 at 02:18 (7,145 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 45880 , Reply# 29 9/27/2004 at 09:26 (7,144 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA) | ||
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| Post# 46147 , Reply# 31 10/1/2004 at 20:26 (7,140 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Shipping Bolts?
Are you sure these machines were properly installed? Perhaps the shipping bolts were not removed from the washer resulting in poor extraction performance. Front Load machines also need to be firmly levelled or vibration can be the result. Give them a chance. Both Lowes and Whirlpool. There aren't that many other options out there at this price point for Front Loaders. MRB | ||
| Post# 46159 , Reply# 32 10/1/2004 at 22:10 (7,140 days old) by Brent-Aucoin () | ||
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Very interesing about your purchase. Keep us up to date about what you find out. They are so attractive. I hope things work out for you. Brent | ||
| Post# 46169 , Reply# 34 10/2/2004 at 08:00 (7,139 days old) by programcomputer (Ann Arbor Michigan, USA) | ||
I just saw these dreadful things myself.....
Oh god....... So I just was offered a job at Lowes near my house and I was thankfully put in their appliance department. After meeting my new associates, I went around to all the different machines and pointed out what i knew. Many of my new associates were happy that they weren't going to have to train a complete idiot, and were quite amazed at my knowledge. These little Paulines were sitting at the very end of the main row up on a stand, so they were a bit taller than what you see in the picture above. GOD they almost seem that they are being made NOT by Whirlpool, but by Suzi Homemaker. Their SOOOOOO very tiny, smaller tub than any other front loader i have ever seen. The dryer has a stailess steel drum, which I found to be quite different from the mainstream. They definitly will be a dissappointment to Whirlpool I feel in the respect that NO one, will buy them , let's say next to a full size FL set, unless as Jeanne said, space is a definite constraint, and the size is a nescesary and unrelenting requirement. I just question it's working load capacity, and if it can keep up with the laundry piles created by most families. And most importantly...they will fail purely on objective grounds, expecially if they operate full time, in such absolutly poor sympatico. Causing consumer dislike, and bad news rarely speads slowly. I know that back in the late 1990's when I got my set of Westinghouse Space Mates, everyone in my family thought I was just plain nuts. But I knew that they were based on a design that had been built since 1956. It was in that that I took comfort. But now, becasue of that set that I took the chance on so many years ago, that not only have I purchased a new Frigidaire set, but five people in my family have also purchased Frigidaires, or the Kenmore equivalent. These same fools, that said I was nuts, now enjoy the benifits of front load washing. It's really too bad that your having such travails with your new washer and dryer. But If I understand their policy, if you have had them less than thirty days, they will come and get them. I would in my opinion try another Whirlpool FL washer, with the STRICT instructions made by you, that if another one comes in and it's still bad like described....that you can return the entire set for a refund, or in trade for a different set. Like I said earlier, time will tell about these little Paulines and if their going to fly or not. And with Whirlpool just announcing that they are discontinuing their repair parts buisness, and these new Edsel's. Whirlpool will find themselves going the way of Maytag, and may not be long for this world.. Chad | ||
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Post# 46181 , Reply# 36 10/2/2004 at 12:03 (7,139 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Don't know if they are your thing, but Maytag has a new compact washer and dryer (built by Samsung). Have listed the information under another thread "Maytag Compact Washers/Dryers Specs and Information". Here is a link for more information. Launderess CLICK HERE TO GO TO Launderess's LINK | ||
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Post# 46267 , Reply# 39 10/4/2004 at 11:02 (7,137 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 46281 , Reply# 40 10/4/2004 at 16:03 (7,137 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA) | ||
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Chris: Pete posted about the Aaxis washer & dryer; these are the smaller ones. I think you are referring to the Nexxt models which are much larger. Pete: I also have 1.7 cubic foot FL washers (Miele and Kenmore) and I can fit into 1 the same amount of laundry that used to fit into my large capacity Maytag. It's going to take a while for Americans to get used to smaller looking washers that can wash as much as toploaders. 2 full sets of queen sheets and 8 pillow cases fit with ease, as does a load of 6-8 thick Charisma bathtowels. Jafrogg: All FL's will transmit vibrations to a non-cement floor. Both my Miele and my Kenmore can be felt in all rooms of my 1300 square foot ranch home when they go into spin. Neither shake raucously, but they do vibrate more or less depending on how the load balances out. | ||
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Post# 46287 , Reply# 41 10/4/2004 at 17:30 (7,137 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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IIRC, the Danby unit everyone over on THS seems to be raving about is 1.7 cu/ft, which is the same as many of the older Miele models. What is interesting is the Danby will heat water to boil wash temps on 120v. Will take two hours to complete a cotton cycle on 200F, but it will heat that water. Problem I have with both Danby and LG is their repair network isn't quite there yet. At least the Maytag/Samsung model and probably the Whirlpool have good in house repair/tech support. Launderess | ||
| Post# 46379 , Reply# 43 10/6/2004 at 02:22 (7,136 days old) by kenmore1978 () | ||
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WP parts discontinuance I don't get it, so does this mean that if you buy a WP product and it breaks, that there'll be no parts to fix it? That doesn't seem to make sense. | ||
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Post# 46912 , Reply# 44 10/13/2004 at 18:48 (7,128 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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New Whirlpool Front-loaders
Today I went to Lowes for the 1st time - Very much like home depot Only Nicer. I saw the New Whirlpool. Actually like was stated the control panel was made rather cheap. I was somewhat impressed with the interior. I thought it was a little bigger than my former Equator combo. I did like the fact it has 4 vanes in the tub instead of the 3 that most fl have. I actually think that the tub size is only a little smaller than the fridgmore. I don't think Whirlpool makes this washer. I am going to try to attach a link fron fjs distributers. This is basically the same machine as what others are passing off as a combo. The only difference on the Whirlpool is that the dry control is a spin speed selector. What I don't like about this machine is that you cannot set the temp. I am also sure I have saw this washer passed off as other brands before. So my full assumption is that Whirlpool doesn't realy make it - they are using the name to get it to sell. (I could however be wrong) Peter CLICK HERE TO GO TO peteski50's LINK | ||
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Post# 46915 , Reply# 45 10/13/2004 at 19:08 (7,128 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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New Whirlpool Front-loaders
Here is another link that indicates this machine is being used in a few places. I still don't think it is realy a Whirlpool. even in Europe. Peter CLICK HERE TO GO TO peteski50's LINK | ||
| Post# 47198 , Reply# 47 10/17/2004 at 04:32 (7,125 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland) | ||
re, pics by jeanne
Iam shocked and horified that whirlpool are marketing these substandard machines as their own in the USA. They are in fact made by servis ( think they have machines under the name maber in th US). Servis machines used to have an exelent reputation in the uk until the late 90's whwn they were bought over by an italian co and now are the cheapest of cheap machines in the uk. All to often these days companys are selling off sub standard washers to rival companies in order to make a profit. I live in a rented flat and have the misfourtune to be in posetion of a sevris combo ( maber in US) it is a dreadful machine which leaks, has poor wash performance and takes nearly over 4hrs to wash and dry 2.5kgs of laundry. I would urge people NOT to buy the whirlpool models as pictured in Jeannes msg. Whirlpool do make their own laundry systems for sale in europe which usually have dial in front of control panel, if u must buy one of those
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| Post# 48110 , Reply# 51 10/29/2004 at 13:36 (7,112 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA) | ||
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Post# 48223 , Reply# 53 10/31/2004 at 05:58 (7,110 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Whirlpool's Blunder
I was just down in DC with Jeff and John L and they both gave me the skinny on this machine. It is even worse! W_pool is dumping this machine on the market to keep market share for a year as they are currently develolping their own version to introduce next year! So all these consumers this year who buy this machine will be left behind next year when W-pool gets their own machine to market! Can anyone tell me a better way to beat up on your customers??? jet | ||
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Post# 48241 , Reply# 54 10/31/2004 at 09:55 (7,110 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 48897 , Reply# 56 11/9/2004 at 10:48 (7,101 days old) by fixerman () | ||
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WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!! I second your emotions. Great post. Thanks. | ||
| Post# 49157 , Reply# 62 11/14/2004 at 11:15 (7,096 days old) by jmirawm (Barling Arkansas) | ||
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Whirlpool not a whirlpool ? My sister is thinking about purchasing a smaller Kenmore Frontloader.....Is this not made by whirlpool ? should she wait a year ? She does not want the larger Elite or duets....for the life of me I dont know why. GO FOR THE GUSTO ! | ||
| Post# 49481 , Reply# 65 11/18/2004 at 23:40 (7,092 days old) by HQOTS () | ||
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Those silly things are made by merloni. Very simple machines. Lowes has the exclusive for 6 months. In 6 to 12 months these machines are going to be replaced with real WPL built machines. | ||
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Post# 51745 , Reply# 70 12/25/2004 at 00:54 (7,056 days old) by CleanteamofNY ((Monroe, New York) |
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Looking at Jafrogg's Whirlpool photos, the dryer interior does look like my Malber TD700 and I can say that it is somewhat loud and the noise can be reduced if the dryer was vented to the outside. There is only one thing I like to do with the washer? I want to increase the water level! The auto sensor just does not fill enough when doing large loads causing decrease performance in washing. It has a weird tumble pattern but I must say it does a good job of getting the clothes from the center to outer part of the tub that the clothes in the center does not get locked in that one spot not getting a chance to make it to the 4 & 8 o-clock position. But one thing I really like about this machine is the 1000 RPM spin speed that is used through out each rinse spin phase! Now that's boss! | ||
| Post# 51746 , Reply# 71 12/25/2004 at 02:55 (7,056 days old) by designgeek () | ||
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doityrselfguy: Re. load characteristics: jeans, exactly, looks like we're convergent on the 2/3 loose rule. Thanks. | ||
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