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Speed Queen Combo
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Post# 1094945   10/28/2020 at 14:42 (876 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada)        

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I'd like to share a fantastic find with you. 1962 Speed Queen combo! I can't take any credit for finding this, that goes to my friend James (114jwh) who alerted me to a local Craigslist ad. It was advertised as non-functional which was correct. This this was a beast to move at 380 lbs. As always with these vintage machines there is both good news and bad news but all things can be overcome and this machine can be brought back to life. The machine came out of an older 1950's home which was going to be demolished by the new owner. He thought it was unique enough to save rather than send it to the crusher. So for a whole $20 the machine now resides here.

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Post# 1094946 , Reply# 1   10/28/2020 at 14:48 (876 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Incredible find!

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Wow, that machine is stunning. So glad you were able to save it.

Post# 1094947 , Reply# 2   10/28/2020 at 14:49 (876 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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OMG!  What an amazing find!  Congratulations on saving it!!

Post# 1094955 , Reply# 3   10/28/2020 at 15:15 (876 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

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Congrats! That’s a nice machine.

Post# 1094961 , Reply# 4   10/28/2020 at 16:00 (876 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Congratulations Eddy! That's a nice addition to your Speed Queen collection!

Post# 1094962 , Reply# 5   10/28/2020 at 16:01 (876 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Greetings, Eddy.  Yay!

Post# 1094963 , Reply# 6   10/28/2020 at 16:07 (876 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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I'll keep saying it - amazing what is still out there to be found! Who had a 'Speed Queen combo popping up late into the 2020 year' on their bingo cards? Wow!

Great find and save, Eddy! Nice to see a post with your handle pop up today!


Post# 1094968 , Reply# 7   10/28/2020 at 16:51 (876 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        

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A beautiful find - can't wait for more pictures and information.



Post# 1094969 , Reply# 8   10/28/2020 at 17:38 (876 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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How exciting, Eddy. Good for you. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
It'll be amazing to see what the Speed Queen Combo can do. Anticipation Galore.

"Who had a 'Speed Queen combo popping up late into the 2020 year' on their bingo cards? Wow!"

Brilliant, Ben ! LOL.

Post# 1094978 , Reply# 9   10/28/2020 at 19:09 (876 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        

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What a great find!  I had no idea that Speed Queen made a combo.  I look forward to see more updates on the restoration process!

Post# 1094995 , Reply# 10   10/28/2020 at 20:17 (876 days old) by mrmaytag (Tennessee)        
Oh my!

Congratulations! That machine looks like it was just uncrated. What a find! I'm glad you were able to save it!

Post# 1094997 , Reply# 11   10/28/2020 at 20:56 (876 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada)        

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Thanks for all your comments! It really was an exciting find. Now for a tub shot and lighted control panel.

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Post# 1094998 , Reply# 12   10/28/2020 at 21:04 (876 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada)        

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A look under the skirt.... oh no!! Got a bit of work to do.

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Post# 1094999 , Reply# 13   10/28/2020 at 21:10 (876 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Things That Turn Up In Great White North!

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What a great find! Congrats!

Post# 1095002 , Reply# 14   10/28/2020 at 21:33 (876 days old) by Mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Hey Eddy!

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What a great find and a very rare machine as I understand too!

Hope you can get it running again with some of the expert advice from this forum.

Hopefully when David and I come back one day we will see it in action.


Post# 1095013 , Reply# 15   10/28/2020 at 22:08 (876 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
That makes at least two members who own SQ Combo

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It always pays to search the archives...

Hopefully other member will chime in with well wishes and supply information.

Post# 1095019 , Reply# 16   10/28/2020 at 22:42 (876 days old) by 114jwh (Vancouver)        

Congrats once again on this Eddy - it really is in incredible cosmetic condition, all the parts are there and I'm confident it will wash and dry clothes once again! I'm quite certain the previous owners didn't use this much. It never ceases to amaze me what still shows up once in a blue moon - especially something as rare as this. I also can't think of a more deserving new owner :)

What I think is really fantastic and about this machine is the footprint and the spin speed. At less than 26" wide, this fits in the same space as most standard washers and spinning at 515 RPM should give you some decent water extraction. The nice lighted panel is icing on the cake too!

Can't wait to see this in action!

Post# 1095021 , Reply# 17   10/28/2020 at 23:29 (876 days old) by Hippiedoll ( arizona )        

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on such a neat find!
It looks to be in amazing cosmetic condition! The colors are great on the door and control panel.

I can't wait to see a video of this speed queen in action!

Such a cool find!

Doing the HAPPY DANCE for you on this side of the computer

Post# 1095024 , Reply# 18   10/29/2020 at 00:00 (876 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Eddie, I want to add my congratulations too!!!

Post# 1095026 , Reply# 19   10/29/2020 at 00:50 (876 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        

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Eddy thats quite a beautiful acquisition, what a score.  I’m sure you’ll have lots of fun getting it up and running.  And how fortunate to also have the original owners manual.  It looks like new.  Congratulations!



Post# 1095046 , Reply# 20   10/29/2020 at 10:04 (876 days old) by Golittlesport (California)        

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Wow, congrats Eddy! That has to be the find of the year! Great cosmetic shape and hopefully not too much heartache to get running again.

Post# 1095049 , Reply# 21   10/29/2020 at 10:38 (876 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

A great find for a great guy!


I think of the help you gave me every time I look at my Mieles


Best wishes.

Stay well, Everyone.

Post# 1095072 , Reply# 22   10/29/2020 at 14:27 (875 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Wow Eddy that is an amazing find! So super rare and it looks to be nearly mint cosmetically, congratulations. It really is amazing how much we're still finding this far into the 21st century!

Post# 1095089 , Reply# 23   10/29/2020 at 15:38 (875 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Oh No no no no

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It's got a rust chip in the tub - Send it back !!!! DEFECTIVE for sure !!!



No, really incredible find but what struck me was to see you post Eddy its been too long! 

That is a beautiful find , wow! I'm headed out to the Cousins as soon as this pandemic is over so lets WASH !!!


Can't wait to see the restore, looks like a few broken wires and hoses, hopefully it's that simple for operation.  


With all those vanes it looks like GE Piece by Piece washing action in there !!




Post# 1095111 , Reply# 24   10/29/2020 at 19:23 (875 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
The Speed Queen Combination

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Wow Eddy what a great save.


SQ was the last US company to introduce a Combination Washer-Dryer, it came out in 1961.


It was the smallest CWD measuring just 25 1/2" wide, it was billed as the compact Combo.


Its maximum wash-dry capacity is around 5-6 pounds of clothing, similar to most 24" combinations built around the world.


This and the Bendix combinations were the fastest spinning US combinations, around 550 RPMs.


Interestingly this SQ is just a smaller version of the very short lived 1957 Hotpoint combination.


Hi Eddy, you are making our collection of combos less rare, we thought we had the only one, His Majesty Jon C. found the one we have at the Museum, I did hear that there may still be one at SQs factory in Ripon Wisconsin.


Eddy It was great talking to you about your new find the other evening, keep us updated on your progress on installing new bearings and seals.


John L.

Post# 1095128 , Reply# 25   10/29/2020 at 23:48 (875 days old) by Superwash (Cape Coral, FL)        

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Wow! Congratulations. What a great find!


Post# 1095133 , Reply# 26   10/30/2020 at 02:21 (875 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Jaw dropping! Congratulations!

Post# 1095138 , Reply# 27   10/30/2020 at 03:02 (875 days old) by spiralator60 (Los Angeles)        

Congratulations, Eddy!

Post# 1095144 , Reply# 28   10/30/2020 at 07:25 (875 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
The Speed Queen Combination

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Other Interesting Things about The SQ-CWD


These were only produced in white although the original engineering article about this machine said the door and control panel trim could be had in Coral [ pink ] Green or Yellow, but everyone I have seen [ 4 ] all have the Coral trim.


These were only made in water condensing electric drying models, about 4000 watts with dual heaters above the rotating basket.


John L.

Post# 1095153 , Reply# 29   10/30/2020 at 09:41 (875 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada)        

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So good to hear from all of you! It runs, albeit noisily due to bad bearings.


Post# 1095154 , Reply# 30   10/30/2020 at 10:07 (875 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Yeah Eddy!!!

Post# 1095157 , Reply# 31   10/30/2020 at 10:24 (875 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        

Congrats! That is beyond cool.

When you mentioned the spin speed my knee-jerk response, "Wow! I think that beats all its rivals save Bendix."

Since my memory is correct ..... How did Speed Queen get around the patents Bendix was holding onto and produce that 500+ spin? What was the Hotpoint's spin speed?

A few years ago there was a thread on spin speed <--> moisture extraction. It was focused on contemporary FL's but data for 250rpm vs 550 might be extrapolated from that data.

Best of luck!

Post# 1095160 , Reply# 32   10/30/2020 at 10:53 (875 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        
Extraction force

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varies with the square of the RPM making spin speed more critical than the spin basket radius.

Of course relative extraction will depend on time at speed and maybe basket design etc.

Online calculator to punch numbers in for reference

Post# 1095173 , Reply# 33   10/30/2020 at 11:06 (875 days old) by simpsomatic (Melb, Aust-now Palm Springs,US)        
Nuclear Power

Maybe Chetlahan will get off his combo machine soapbox when he sees this Speed Queen combo and its 4,000 watt dual drying heaters above the rotating basket. Sounds like nuclear power to me. Congratulations on the acquisition.

Post# 1095183 , Reply# 34   10/30/2020 at 12:20 (875 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        


Thanks for the info. I'll check the link after work.

IIRC, the guy did the experiment did them all on his machines at home. He gave all the numbers he used for his calculations (basket size, dry weight of the bath towels, etc.) to ensure it was as much an 'apples to apples' comparison as possible.

I think the extraction vs rpm relationship was pretty linear from his low end starting point up to 1400rpm, above which the curve started to flatten. That's why I'm thinking one could extrapolate downward to 250 vs 550.

I'm afraid I'm going to make much more sense beyond this unless I either find the thread or get really physic- and statistic-y........


Post# 1095188 , Reply# 35   10/30/2020 at 14:19 (874 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
WOw Phil

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39 grams of force 515RPM versus 189gm @1140. 


Man that bearing set is loud !! 



Post# 1095199 , Reply# 36   10/30/2020 at 15:14 (874 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Unfortunately, the condensation system of the dryer is a passive blower-less system consisting of a small stream of cold water spraying on a plate at the rear of the outer tub. Air circulation is provided by the rotating cylinder. In the Philco combos with this type of condensing system, drying times were much longer than in the models with a blower to move the air past the heaters, through the fabrics and then through the condensing spray.

Post# 1095213 , Reply# 37   10/30/2020 at 18:29 (874 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Re # 35:

Imagine what it is at 1400 in my Miele!

Post# 1095256 , Reply# 38   10/31/2020 at 05:23 (874 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Speed Queen Combo

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Hi Eddy , great to see you back & posting and now with another Speed Queen addition, really glad you managed to save it although at that weight a truss and hernia is to be avoided lol..amazing whats still lurking around ready to be given a loving home again.

Looks in great nic but with the usual hoses and wiring to be checked and replaced, the suspension struts look substantial, look forward to seeing it wash spin & dry, but perhaps spin out in a spin dryer or TL before drying.

Cheers, Mike

Post# 1095403 , Reply# 39   11/1/2020 at 11:33 (873 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Extraction Factors ~

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This is so interesting and illuminating: Have been using a direct drive WP and a large, perf tub GE lately; the lightness of the finished loads has been surprising to me since they both spin in the relatively slow mid 600's. Scratched my head wondering how is this possible? The Whirlpool tub goes very deep, while the General sports a wide girth with that legendary large outer tub; they both spin for six minutes, and lid-free, of course, mostly after warm rinsing. Now I get it: RPM is not the only play in the spin game--so many factors yet to be discovered. Ah, the mystery of physics.

Thank You, Philip. I'm not just "feeling things"*;'D--it's real !

* as in seeing things that aren't there.

Post# 1095404 , Reply# 40   11/1/2020 at 11:46 (873 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Happy Sunday, folks!

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Post# 1095406 , Reply# 41   11/1/2020 at 12:07 (873 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Can someone post pics of inner workings? And the wiring chart if it happens to be found? I wish they made something like this today. I'd love to use something like this.

Post# 1095409 , Reply# 42   11/1/2020 at 12:42 (872 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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MickeyD, what's the dating of that WP DD?

Post# 1095412 , Reply# 43   11/1/2020 at 13:07 (872 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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'93 or '94 Model # LSP 9245BWO

Regrettably, although I love this machine, the Resource Saver was available that year, but I passed on it because it did not have anywhere near as many buttons and dials, and was not paneled in dramatic black. Pathetic, I know, but true, LOL. Now, I would prefer the multiple spray rinsing Resource model which recirculated horseshoe-shaped spraying rinse water. Drain. Repeat 5 times, I think I read somewhere. John says he has one saved for me to buy one day.

Post# 1095417 , Reply# 44   11/1/2020 at 14:29 (872 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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B = 1994 model year.  It's a nice specimen.  :-)

Post# 1095443 , Reply# 45   11/1/2020 at 16:59 (872 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        

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MickeyD, that Filter Flo is AbFab!!!  So much flexibility with those controls.  Always thought it interesting that this was considered "inferior" to the Programmed models.  Not so.



Post# 1095458 , Reply# 46   11/1/2020 at 19:13 (872 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Age Of DD Washer

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Hi Glenn, I though B was 1992, I could not tell if the serial # said B or E which would be 1995.


Hi Mike, could the reason this WP DD and the GE FF seem to extract so well may be because you are used to using the ringers on your WWs ?


Unfortunately I only have one Resource Saver left and it is going to stay here at the museum, I will look out for another if you want one, we still have a number of customers that have them.


John L.

Post# 1095516 , Reply# 47   11/2/2020 at 00:26 (872 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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'93 or '94 Model # LSP 9245BWO
B is 1994 for the year designation in a model number of the timeframe, which is what MickeyD provided above -- LSP9245BW0.  Clarity on the serial would confirm the production year.

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