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Post# 1095872   11/4/2020 at 21:42 (869 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Did they ever make a dryer without a lint filter? How did it work? What about condensing dryers?




Post# 1095879 , Reply# 1   11/4/2020 at 22:04 (869 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Whirlpool and Kenmore dryers built before 1954 did not have a lint filter at all and Whirlpool started putting them on their dryers in 1954 and in 1956 is when Kenmore started putting lint filters on their dryers.

Post# 1095904 , Reply# 2   11/5/2020 at 02:33 (869 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Why drove them to add filters? How was it before the filters? I like the idea of not having a filter to clean.

Post# 1095921 , Reply# 3   11/5/2020 at 06:50 (869 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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for an experiment, cut the screen out of your filter, or leave it out and run it for a few months....

we already know, but SEE for yourself what happens!...


were heading into heating season, a good time to let the dryer exhaust inside, a shame to let that hot moist air go to waste, especially if its gas fired...


Post# 1095932 , Reply# 4   11/5/2020 at 08:00 (869 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
Gas Fired

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You can't vent a gas dryer indoors. At least not from a human safety standpoint.

Post# 1095935 , Reply# 5   11/5/2020 at 08:53 (869 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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But a gas range or a space heater can be operated non-vented.† Explain why is that vs. a dryer?



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Post# 1095938 , Reply# 6   11/5/2020 at 09:26 (869 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Reason why dryers are vented to the outside is because of the lint and moisture that comes out of the exhaust.

If my 1973 Maytag DG306 were in a basement I donít think it would be much of a big deal since it only outputs 18,000 btus and thatís about what a gas stove burner outputs along with a gas fired space heater.


Post# 1095945 , Reply# 7   11/5/2020 at 10:34 (869 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)        

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My mother had a 50's gas Bendix with no lint filter. My job in the spring was to clean up the big pile of lint by the vent.

Post# 1095952 , Reply# 8   11/5/2020 at 11:55 (869 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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you could also pipe that exhaust from your car back inside to help heat the car faster...

stay tuned, coming up, more helpful hints on what to do with those darn ole holiday leftovers!

yet the Scarecrow knew he needed a brain.....then again, Jim cracked corn, but I didn't care!



Post# 1095961 , Reply# 9   11/5/2020 at 14:17 (868 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)        

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My mom's very early Apex gas dryer had no lint screen. It used an automotive spark plug (any brand) to light the standby pilot after you turned on the gas (knob on front of dryer) then held the ignition switch on (you'd hear the zzzzzzzzz from the spark plug) and held it there for at least 30 seconds while the thermocouple heated up. Then you'd start the dryer and look through a viewing window to make sure the burner came on. If not, you didn't hold the ignition on long enough and you had to start over. Actually it was kind of fun. 

 

It also had no door switch and a very nice glass window. I'd sit on the floor and watch the clothes tumble in the perforated drum and wonder how they never caught fire. You could see the flames dancing in the upper left corner. The Apex sort of "broiled" your laundry dry. My mom told me if I ever opened the dryer while it was on I'd get sucked up inside like Dorothy's house in the cyclone. Being naturally mischievous I tried it one day. Mother lied.  


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Post# 1095967 , Reply# 10   11/5/2020 at 15:15 (868 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Not much to lighting the pilot on my 1973 Maytag DG306 other than turning the internal gas valve on, pulling down the red lever, using a lighter to light the pilot and holding the red lever down for a good minute to make sure the thermal couple is warmed up so the pilot stays on.

Not much to the burner ignition sequence other than it turns on instantly as soon as you turn on the dryer, and turns on instantly when the cycling thermostat calls for heat.

Interesting thing is my Ď73 Maytag DG306 seems to be a little quicker with a 120F low heat thermostat I installed earlier this summer since it seems to hold a more steady temperature without the high limit thermostat kicking the heat off. The front of the cabinet is quite warm since the heating Halo is at the front of the cabinet and gradually gets cooler towards the end of the cycle and clothes seems to be much more cooler as soon as the dryer stops after the 3 minute cool down.



Post# 1095996 , Reply# 11   11/5/2020 at 19:05 (868 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Does a gas stove use the same amount of gas as a few loads of laundry in a gas dryer? How many cubic feet?

@Yogitunes, how do you explain this:


www.cnet.com/roadshow/new...

Yes you are far more likely to survive exhausting a modern fuel injector vehicle in a closed space than an old carburetor car... but do you really want to make a habit of it?


Post# 1095998 , Reply# 12   11/5/2020 at 19:20 (868 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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makes you wonder why cars are not required to have a CO2 detector, yet a home does?


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Post# 1095999 , Reply# 13   11/5/2020 at 19:35 (868 days old) by sfh074 ( )        
I want one ......

of those t-shirts. I've lately been inundated by stupid questions .... or .... stupid people, not sure which. But Forest gump said it best.

Post# 1096000 , Reply# 14   11/5/2020 at 19:51 (868 days old) by Sudster ()        
SHAZAAM

After these revelations I am now using my propane BBQ grill to heat my bedroom. I have to go, I have a headache.

Post# 1096003 , Reply# 15   11/5/2020 at 20:31 (868 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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I'm not sure I get the joke, but its still not a good idea to vent a dryer indoors as much as its a bad idea to use a gas range to heat your home. Boiling a pot of water is not the same as 5 burners on full blast compensating for a broken furnace. Or several loads of laundry in a 6 hour period.


Regarding the lint filter I'm guessing I can't get away without one.


Post# 1096014 , Reply# 16   11/5/2020 at 22:07 (868 days old) by sfh074 ( )        
In 1993 .....

worst winter storm ever been in. Power out for 4 days. Thank god for the gas stove in the kitchen. All 4 burners on full for 4 days. Simply cracked the window to allow fresh air in to replace O2. CO alarm near by never balked. Stayed toasty warm in kitchen and living room after shutting hallway door. Camped out on sofa ..... and after initial letdown, actually enjoyed the peace and quiet.

BTW, no one has mentioned ventless gas logs or the old school open flame gas heaters that your grandparents had in the bathroom that stood out in the middle of the floor .... or the newer version that mount on the wall.


Post# 1096016 , Reply# 17   11/5/2020 at 22:12 (868 days old) by Sudster ()        

It's no JOKE at all Chetlaham. If you can't understand combustion air requirements,exhaust fans above a gas fueled range along with common sense owners manual facts like lint build up inside a dryer cabinet, fire dangers,clogged dryer ducts,exhaust ducts and BASIC common sense in a set up manual ,What is the point of the post? The JOKE ??? Am I on the 20 years and older appliance section?

Post# 1096019 , Reply# 18   11/5/2020 at 22:31 (868 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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My grandmother vented a DE806 into the house during winter months with a pantyhose over the exhaust for 40 years. She lived in the desert so the extra moisture was welcomed. Never did cause any problems and I don't remember any extra dust although she was a neat freak. Fast forward half a decade and I got the bright idea to give that a try with my newly acquired DE750 sans the pantyhose. Lets just say I spent the entire weekend dusting the house.

I'd never vent a gas dryer indoors.


Post# 1096020 , Reply# 19   11/5/2020 at 23:00 (868 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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A Frigidaire Filtrator doesnít need any venting BUT they are heavy and get a little on the hot side when drying since the hot air doesnít really have anywhere to go at all. Condenser dryers are great if you donít have a vent but wonít work when itís warm since it relies on the cooler ambient temperature to help condense the water.

Has anyone ever used those Kenmore dryers with the room heater that slides in place of the lint screen? If so how well did it work?


Post# 1096034 , Reply# 20   11/6/2020 at 02:00 (868 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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My point was that its not a good idea to vent a gas dryer indoors. Folks are here are giving anecdotes which doesn't make it any safer in practice. Guess what, countless electricians will tell you of working live. I've even diagnosed then repaired a few major appliances live. Yes you'll usually live getting hit with 120 or 277, until the day you don't. Just because could, doesn't mean you should.

Post# 1096112 , Reply# 21   11/6/2020 at 17:24 (867 days old) by sfh074 ( )        
Dryer owners manuals .....

say to clean out the exhaust vent pipe all the way back to the outside once a year or more.

The gunk I have gotten out of these has been a eye opener. Could not imagine what it would be like .... and the fire hazard .... if there were no lint filter!



Post# 1096113 , Reply# 22   11/6/2020 at 18:00 (867 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Boiling A Large Pot Of Water On A Gas Range

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Actually will produce far more CM than burning 5 burners on high flame heating the kitchen because when the flame is touching the relatively cooler pot of water [ the pot will never go over about 212-225 degrees F ] so you end up with incomplete combustion and a lot of CM.

 

John L.


Post# 1096134 , Reply# 23   11/6/2020 at 21:22 (867 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        
Monsters are the most interesting people!.....

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so your saying boiling pot is more effective that smoking it?....

I can see your point that both would create a cloud in the room....



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