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Post# 1095873   11/4/2020 at 21:51 (1,268 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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What are these springy weights for? What do they do?

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Post# 1095900 , Reply# 1   11/5/2020 at 00:14 (1,268 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
good question,

I'd lile to know.

Post# 1095914 , Reply# 2   11/5/2020 at 06:03 (1,268 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        

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Look like motion sensor detectors ( OOB) and mini stabiliser system. What model / brand is this from ? , the front unit looks like a water pressure pot in many Euro washers or again linked to the Out Of Balance system,

Post# 1095920 , Reply# 3   11/5/2020 at 06:41 (1,268 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Its a 27 inch Maytag front load.

Post# 1095924 , Reply# 4   11/5/2020 at 07:14 (1,268 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Post# 1095934 , Reply# 5   11/5/2020 at 08:44 (1,267 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

Was about to say that there are no wires going to it, so no sensor.

My guess is tuned vibration absorbers.

Masses on springs with specific weight and stiffness.
Once the cabinet vibrates at a certain frequency, these vibrate exactly offset, creating destructive interference.



Is used on skyscrapers as earthquake safety as well.


Post# 1095937 , Reply# 6   11/5/2020 at 09:11 (1,267 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Those were sourced from Samsung, technically not a real Maytag.

The (blue) component mounted to the center rail is labeled in the service info as Reactor, which has a wiring harness connected and presumably is a vibration sensor.


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Post# 1095942 , Reply# 7   11/5/2020 at 10:05 (1,267 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Wow, very interesting , does it work well ?

Surprised they arnt in many more machines, but perhaps their OOB systems work well enough ?


Post# 1095943 , Reply# 8   11/5/2020 at 10:06 (1,267 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

Weren't these Samsung-Tags horrible at balancing?


That would pretty much explain why.

I can't see any counterweight on the tub itself and a vibration sensor mounted off the drum would have to be verry sensitive and potentially verry inaccurate.

Those little weights won't do much to keep a tub from going all over the place...


Post# 1095948 , Reply# 9   11/5/2020 at 11:36 (1,267 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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true Neptunes have these built into the door.....

for the most it must work, why else would they be put there.....extra expense for no reason?.....might as well toss an old sneaker inside the cabinet as well, serving no purpose, except maybe absorbing noise...

consider them noise cancelling headphones!...for the most part, thats what they do, cancel out noise....

is it LIVE, or is it Memorex?


Post# 1095949 , Reply# 10   11/5/2020 at 11:37 (1,267 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Further investigation finds that the "reactor" may be a power transformer.

Concrete counterweights are involved.  Per service:

9700 uses two weights attached to the front of the outer tub.  *6700 & 8700 add a weight at back of the tub behind the pulley and one at the right-rear of the tub.

*9700 has an F&P-style direct-drive motor so a weight there cannot be accommodated, nor is one needed to counterweight the belt-drive motor mounted below the tub on the 6700 and 8700.


Post# 1095994 , Reply# 11   11/5/2020 at 18:52 (1,267 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Here is the manual where I got the pic from:

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Post# 1096015 , Reply# 12   11/5/2020 at 22:10 (1,267 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
I suspect

the tub will fishtail due to that setup.

Post# 1096160 , Reply# 13   11/7/2020 at 01:58 (1,266 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        
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Yes Henrik, they were horrible!  At least the one I had was...took it back to Lowes ASAP because it couldn't even spin a perfectly balanced load..then it would take off with an obviously whop-sided load and bounce the whole house.  Hated it.


Post# 1096172 , Reply# 14   11/7/2020 at 06:44 (1,266 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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These do nothing to help balance the load itself,

 

They are very effective a minimizing cabinet vibration and some noise however.

 

Maytag used the door mounted HB and SamSung used these HBs to help make up for poor cabinet construction, with better construction technics you probably will not see these costly HBs much in the future.

 

John L.


Post# 1096173 , Reply# 15   11/7/2020 at 06:47 (1,266 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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These do nothing to help balance the load itself,

 

They are very effective a minimizing cabinet vibration and some noise however.

 

Maytag used the door mounted HB and SamSung used these HBs to help make up for poor cabinet construction, with better construction technics you probably will not see these costly HBs much in the future.

 

John L.



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