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Post# 1099588   12/6/2020 at 16:14 (837 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Hi everyone.
I was attempting to put a service light on my Speed Queen, at first I opted for a 12v led strip but in the future I may think to cut the frame and put a light or neon inside, there is enough room...
Anyways I understand little of the wiring of this machine.
Ideally I would like the light to turn on as I pull the knob and shut itself at the end of the cycle, or at worst light up when knob is pulled and turned off when pushed.
I connected it to the timer motor wires though this way of course light is on only when timer motor is fed so only on agitation and spin not during filling.
Do any of you did this or know how to help me?
It looks so nice lighted up!!!
😀


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Post# 1099753 , Reply# 1   12/7/2020 at 22:30 (836 days old) by Hippiedoll ( arizona )        
Very cool!

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I like the mix of vintage lights idea to a newer washer.

LOOKS GREAT!
😃👍🏻🙂


Post# 1099757 , Reply# 2   12/7/2020 at 23:13 (836 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        

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I can't help you but I love the idea!


Post# 1099948 , Reply# 3   12/9/2020 at 10:22 (835 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Thanks.
Yeah I think the light fits just right in this model.
I did this light improvement to a couple of other machines and it was very easy in those but this one is complicated.

Here is the schematic and diagram I found online, it is the same as the one of my machine.
I cannot identify a proper hot cable that gets fed as I pull the knob and shuts off as I push and a neutral, if not neutrals that I thought were neutral that suddenly becomes an hot-live one as I shut the machine off.


I need a live and a neutral that stays live and neutral always and shuts off the circuit as I push the knob.
The lid switch is weird too.
Connectors changes polarity if machine is running and one is anyways always fed.
Also...
As I change the direction of the plug I change the polarity (we do not have polarized outlets in Italy) and in one direction I get live cables even when I shut the machine off.
If I insert the plug in a certain way the circuit goes in reverse and when it shuts off with the knob it shuts off the neutral line but I still get voltage inside the machine.
So I just need to identify two cables that when powered will have a proper circuit to have a 12v attached to (lone day I will probably put a 220v line forl a neon and starter) and that do not matter what polarity the machine gets when one is hot the other one will be neutral respectively.



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Post# 1099956 , Reply# 4   12/9/2020 at 11:17 (835 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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the SQ machines that did come with the light use a separate switch mounted in the upper left of the control panel cap....

which of course operate the light separate from the timer control.....it operates even with the machine off...

granted we do like lighted control panels!....whether factory or self installed...

I think there is a thread somewhere of members machines that light up!

does your Speed Queen Disco?






Post# 1100130 , Reply# 5   12/10/2020 at 18:30 (833 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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That's so cool Martin!
No i do not plan to make it a disco version LOL.
I keep it in the bathroom and I do not think to throw disco wash parties in my bathroom if not with a few washing fella Haha! 😂
Thank you for the original factory lighted panel info.
Well, putting a switch would be so easy indeed, but I do really like the idea of having it lighting up with its knob.

You know....if the machine is on the stop portion of the timer the knob would then act as a switch itself...I think it makes sense as the user would really need the light while doing laundry and pushing the knob would mean you're done.
But if nobody can help me I will probably go with the separate switch idea...


Post# 1100132 , Reply# 6   12/10/2020 at 19:03 (833 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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I was looking at these profiles, those shapes and trims would fit in many machines giving them an original light panel look.
I think I might consider putting one on the whirlpool belt drive granted I manage to fix it.


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Post# 1100133 , Reply# 7   12/10/2020 at 19:05 (833 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Working link..
Hopefully...
https://www.ebay.it/itm/2M-2metri-PROFIL...


Post# 1100144 , Reply# 8   12/10/2020 at 20:13 (833 days old) by LowEfficiency (Iowa)        

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Would a simple pair of 120VAC relays get you to where you want?
One in parallel with the timer motor wires, the other in parallel with the fill valve (or pressure switch).
The normally open relay contacts would then be wired in parallel, such that your light strip receives power any time either relay is active.


Post# 1100186 , Reply# 9   12/11/2020 at 06:10 (833 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Dave I don't understand well hence I don't know if they would.
Can you please explain more of what you have in mind? Thanks


Post# 1100189 , Reply# 10   12/11/2020 at 07:24 (833 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Adding a Console Light To A SQ Washer

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Hi Federico, you can wire to the BP wire coming out of the timer if you want it controlled by the push-pull of the timer, or as Dave mentioned you would need two small relays to power the light automatically from the timer motor circuit and the fill circuit.

 

I took a florescent console light off a dead 90s Amana washer and it just plugs into a SQ, but you have to switch it on and off.

 

John 


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Post# 1100589 , Reply# 11   12/14/2020 at 14:56 (829 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Thanks John the problem is I cannot locate the BP wire in the wire harness!
That schematic is not clear.


Post# 1100590 , Reply# 12   12/14/2020 at 15:15 (829 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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I mean I don't understand which wire is it and what is connected to.
I don't understand the drawing of the cntacts of preeeure switch.


Post# 1100597 , Reply# 13   12/14/2020 at 16:32 (829 days old) by sfh074 ( )        
Lamp socket harness ......

One wire would go to the pnk/blu wire of the machine .... and the other lamp wire would go to the solid wht wire of the machine. Timer knob in and out will operate in light.



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Post# 1100599 , Reply# 14   12/14/2020 at 16:39 (829 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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I made a video.






Post# 1100603 , Reply# 15   12/14/2020 at 16:58 (829 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Bud:
I can only locate one solid white wire and following it comes back from under the cabinet hole and goes directly to the blue wire (supposed neutral) exiting the machine.
So if that's the neutral (that based on how you put the plug it may become a live) do I have to connect the other side to the Pink with blue strips/marks?
That one exit the timer harness goes to pressure switch contact number 3 and there it splits in the faston connector and the split portion goes to the lid switch.


Post# 1100604 , Reply# 16   12/14/2020 at 17:02 (829 days old) by sfh074 ( )        
Yes .....

Pink with blu strip and the neutral white wherever you can tap in to it.

Post# 1100611 , Reply# 17   12/14/2020 at 17:36 (829 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Ok Thank you!!!

Post# 1100617 , Reply# 18   12/14/2020 at 18:14 (829 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        
I did it

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Connected .
But it doesn't work
Connected one side on the Pink and blue and other tucked in the plain white wire faston connector that becomes the blue wire exiting the machine.
It starts filling but no light.
The strip and transforner works if connected to power...


Post# 1100620 , Reply# 19   12/14/2020 at 18:29 (829 days old) by sfh074 ( )        
Instead of .......

the pink/blu wire ... try the grey/blk that goes to pin 1 of the pressure switch. And the white as before.

Post# 1100687 , Reply# 20   12/15/2020 at 08:10 (829 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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The grey wire approach worked!
Now I have a knob operated light!
So cool! Thank you very much!


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Post# 1100702 , Reply# 21   12/15/2020 at 10:38 (829 days old) by sfh074 ( )        
Good deal ....

It appears the pink wire is behind a timer switch before it exits the timer. The grey is a straight shot from the knob. Glad you got it working.

Post# 1100704 , Reply# 22   12/15/2020 at 11:12 (829 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Yeah. At least something goes as supposed sometimes 😅
It gives me strength to continue trying
They lost the package containing the seals that I have to try for the second time to replace to the belt drive whirlpool, after I stupidly broke them while trying to put them in.
Speed Queen got a new vibe to it
I enjoy seeing it in my bathroom.


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Post# 1100729 , Reply# 23   12/15/2020 at 13:41 (828 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I tried making a light hood for the 1962 WP, probably in the late 60s or early 70s.  No LEDs then.  The incandescent bulb melted a hole in the console over the control box.  Dad, surprisingly, didn't throw a ruckus about it.


Post# 1100741 , Reply# 24   12/15/2020 at 14:45 (828 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        
Now am gonna make things big.

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Posting it in case someone may use it as well.
Am gonna buy this flexible aluminum profile with frosted "glass" it says it can adapt to any support surface even though it should be just fine as it is 1.8cm just right to fit on the flat surface of the speed queen panel.
Its gonna look like it came from the factory that way!



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Post# 1100745 , Reply# 25   12/15/2020 at 15:12 (828 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

hahahahahah

I loved, loved, loved the Speed Queen Disco...

It gave me an idea.. Light ALL my washers. Of course controlled by Alexa.

Or even better.... Some moving heads or scanners on top of the stacked units and make gobos with the brands...

Then I'd just need a fog machine. LOL


Post# 1100754 , Reply# 26   12/15/2020 at 16:47 (828 days old) by sfh074 ( )        
Don't you mean .......

A bubble machine? LOL

Post# 1100755 , Reply# 27   12/15/2020 at 17:13 (828 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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vent your dryer inside.....instant fog.....or at least rain!

Post# 1100828 , Reply# 28   12/16/2020 at 10:46 (828 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Lint confetti 😂

Post# 1100829 , Reply# 29   12/16/2020 at 10:54 (828 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Lint confetti 😂
Jump to 24:10
www.dailymotion.com/video...


Post# 1100834 , Reply# 30   12/16/2020 at 12:30 (828 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

I already have FIVE dryers vented inside...

Lint, yes, tons of lint, actually last night Darryl and I were wiping all the washers because they were nasty.

Not only lint, also smog, because we're in Downtown Los Angeles (you can imagine how traffic is) and my giant laundry room has two windows and a door that are open 24/7 (security door is locked when I'm not there).

And no, i have no issues at all with moisture. It's always so windy (my laundry room actually feels like a wind tunnel) that all the moisture is pushed before there's any chance of condensing on the walls.

I'm very aware of the risks of CO poisoning. (four gas dryers and they run at the same time almost every time I do laundry. I have a brand new Kidde CO alarm installed in a very strategic position and the reading is always zero.

And also, I'm in the laundry room usually when I'm washing, but not when drying. It's very rare to stay in the laundry room with a dryer running.

Also, I'm a smoker (heavy). So what's a fart for who already pooped in the pants? I'm pretty sure my Pall Malls are way more dangerous than an eventual trace of lint or CO from the dryers.



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