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Thread Number: 85873
/ Tag: Recipes, Cooking Accessories
Sugar & Flour Alternatives for Type II Diabetes or Low Carb Diets |
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Post# 1104211 1/11/2021 at 19:47 (1,200 days old) by Frigilux  (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Austin- Haven’t heard of Zustro, but am using Sukrin products (erythritol) and liquid Stevia as sugar substitutes.
Grain-based flours and their carbs are also an issue with blood glucose numbers, so have been using almond flour and coconut flour along with IsoPure protein powder as flour substitutes. Chaffles (waffles made with egg & cheese) are all the rage as bread substitutes in the low carb world. Most people use the little Dash waffle makers to create sandwich bread, stand-ins for hamburger buns, etc. I got bored with sandwiches made with waffles, so purchased two of Dash’s mini grills, which make discs as shown in photo 2. I use an adapted Wonder Bread Chaffle recipe which uses no cheese. 1/4 cup liquid egg whites (or 1 large egg) 1 tablespoon Hellmann’s light mayonnaise 3 tablespoons almond flour 1/4 teaspoon baking powder 1/8 teaspoon salt 1/4 teaspoon granulated erythritol (I like Sukrin or Swerve brands) 1/4 teaspoon psyllium husk powder, optional Whisk all together in small bowl or Pyrex measuring cup. Spray preheated Dash mini grill or waffle maker with nonstick cooking spray. Pour half of mixture onto the grill. Close lid and bake about 3-5 minutes, or to your likeness. I tend to go pretty brown with mine. Repeat. Each “bread” disk has about 2g carbs, compared to a slice of regular sandwich bread which has about 15 and sends my glucose numbers soaring when eating a sandwich. And there you have an edible low carb sandwich bun/sandwich bread. Sukrin—and Swerve, another popular brand of erythritol—come in granulated, powdered and brown sugar varieties. I also use monk fruit sweetener and liquid stevia in recipes that call for them. There are thousands of pretty decent keto/low carb recipes—often at keto cooking web blogs. Have found quite a number of hot dish (casserole) recipes, as well as various breads, cakes and cookies. It is kind of fascinating to see how regular bread, rice, pasta and potatoes affect one’s blood glucose. Potatoes induce huge spikes for me. I’m learning to eat no more than 1/3 cup cooked pasta at a meal, which to an Italian is about three bites, lol. While whole wheat/whole grain pastas and breads and brown rice are recommended by the American Diabetic Association, I’ve found they cause the same glucose spikes as their refined/white counterparts. It’s a whole new world of eating for me. | ||
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Post# 1104244 , Reply# 1 1/12/2021 at 01:14 (1,199 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay) |
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 Eugene, have you tried Banza brand pasta? It's made from chickpeas and has 30% less carbs.
Costco carried it for about a minute over a year ago. It's showing up more in grocery stores, but in limited varieties and it costs twice as much as regular pasta. I've yet to see it sale priced, but it's good. If I could still get it at Costco I'd buy it more often. CLICK HERE TO GO TO RP2813's LINK | ||
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Post# 1104249 , Reply# 2 1/12/2021 at 04:35 (1,199 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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@frigilux
I have found wholewheat flour and making our own bread with a 50/50 mix of white and granary flour reduces my glucose count and also spinach pasta and brown rice all help. Mind you some things are just too grim for my taste so refuse to eat some stuff ....... I like the look of that Chaffel sounds and looks yummy.
www.zusto.com... is where I found the sugar alternative I cook with. Austin | ||
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Post# 1104279 , Reply# 3 1/12/2021 at 11:48 (1,199 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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Eugene
sounds like you are going gang busters on finding ways to modify your diet to get your Type II diabetes under control. I’m sorry that you have this problem and I hope that you will in time find more ways to cope with this life changing diagnosis.
I’m curious, are you on any medication to control your glucose or are you maintaining control through dietary changes only? I ask this because when our niece was diagnosed with Type II after the birth of her 3rd son in ‘99 this was her approach too. It did work for her for about a year, then she grudgingly went on oral medication and now is on insulin. Once she went on medication she was able to incorporate some starch and sugar back into her diet, in small amounts. Her health is good other than the Type II and she has always maintained her weight at a normal level. I also had a cousin that was diagnosed with Type I at the age of 10 or 11 in the early 50’s. I can still remember seeing him boiling his own syringe on the stove and giving himself his insulin injection by himself when he was about 12. At least now we have disposable syringes. I know that you will be ultimately successful in living with this. I wish you all the best! Stay healthy! Eddie | ||
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Post# 1104337 , Reply# 5 1/12/2021 at 19:11 (1,199 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Ralph- Have not heard of Banza; sounds pretty good!
Austin- Ah, the world of typos. I meant Zusto, not Zustro. Don’t know who’s in charge of the website, but their spelling is atrocious.😂 Eddie- I’m on extended release Metformin. 1000mg taken once a day. Having problems with the dawn phenomenon, when the liver decides it’s morning and needs to dump a lot of glucose into your system to get your day going. In other words, unless I eat too many carbs at a meal, my fasting glucose number is usually the highest one of the day. I still think my numbers are higher than they should be overall, so may get an increased dose of Metformin or combine it with a 2nd med. My next appointment and blood work is in three weeks. I’ve reduced carbs significantly, but am not doing a full-on keto diet. Jon- I know a couple of people who take cinnamon capsules and swear by it; not necessarily for diabetes, but overall health. | ||
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Post# 1104341 , Reply# 6 1/12/2021 at 19:26 (1,199 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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Eugene
I believe that our niece’s first medication was the same as what your taking. She’s on insulin now, she began insulin about a year after her first diagnosis, how much I don’t know, she doesn’t like to talk about it. But I know when ever we get together for family dinners she eats what the rest of us eat. She may take extra medication to compensate for the increased carbs. I know thats what my cousin Ronnie did.
And I have also read in several places for many years now that cinnamon helps to lower the blood sugar, but as a treatment for diabetes its now effective, maybe for pre diabetes, but not Type II. Please keep us informed about your progress, you have many friends here that care. Eddie | ||
| Post# 1104497 , Reply# 8 1/14/2021 at 09:42 (1,197 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan) | ||
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Exactly Jim; The body utlizes all carbs as "sugars" first for fuel, before fats or proteins. Now decreasing carb intake wil force us to burn fat first. That's ketosys. A diabetic diet is formulated in exchanges of carbs, suagars, etc. Every patient of course is unique. | ||
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Post# 1104573 , Reply# 9 1/14/2021 at 23:51 (1,196 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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Jim's is a great overview of dietary principles for diabetics.
I was diagnosed as type 2 about 20 years ago. Initially I was able to do OK on the oral meds, but found they all had undesirable GI side effects. Except for Actos, which my doctor yanked because it can cause other serious problems (liver or kidney). In one of our visits he told me, "Eventually all type 2 diabetics wind up on insulin". I was tired of the oral med merry-go-round and said, "Fine, let's put me on insulin now". Anybody here tried one of those blood sugar monitors you stick to your arm? It would be nice not to have to do punctures multiple times per day. Not sure if Kaiser has approved them yet, though. PS-back in the 80's I worked for a biotech company that was trying to develop a magical diabetes cure. It failed and the company went belly up. I left it a couple of years before that. 10 years later I had diabetes. | ||
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Post# 1104598 , Reply# 10 1/15/2021 at 07:45 (1,196 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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Endocrine issues
All my problems began with Addison's disease where you no longer produce cortisol, So result in oral hydrocortisone 2x2 daily, Then along came Hypogonadism where I no longer produced Testosterone so to begin with I had a pill then that was changed to a gel that you applied to the stomach area 1x a day that caused an embolism so had to have clot busters and a stay in hospital. Then to top it all off I got type 2 and I take metformin 1gram x 2 daily and 3x 80mg Gliclazide pills that didn't work so I was put on a Trulicity injection 1x week that didn't work now have Insulin as well as the above and still my levels are high the lowest I have had is 9.9 but I was unwell then and had not eaten anything for a day or so. All in all its a real living hell and the GI issues I have to endure make life unbearable at times you never know when its safe to leave the house. All of the issues I have were all brought about by STRESS I was going bankrupt and about to lose my house etc after my restaurant went tits up in 08 and now 12 years later along with the issues I mentioned already I have chronic arthritis of which I medicate daily and inject weekly and monthly to be able to move at all. Another side of Addisons is weight gain and the only way to lose weight is not eat at all my body is no longer able to convert anything to energy so it stores it.... Its no fun getting old when it hasn't arrived unaccompanied...
Sorry for the length of the message just thought I would share the blow that STRESS can deal you when you least expect it. Austin | ||
| Post# 1104604 , Reply# 11 1/15/2021 at 09:46 (1,196 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan) | ||
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Oh Austin, Addison's is what JFK had, and we had a dog that had it. She lived 8 years with it. Finally, her hips gave out as a result of the cortizol pills and prednozone. Two of each per day is a lot for a kanine. | ||
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Post# 1104607 , Reply# 12 1/15/2021 at 09:56 (1,196 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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@vacerator
I never knew JFK had Addisons ! I guess I can say I share something with a famous person lol
Yours is not the first dog I have heard that suffered from this issue I cannot recall the fate of it now though..... I have prednisolone for when I get a chest infection as guess what I have asthma and COPD now that's mostly my own fault for having a 20 a day habit but I did quit 10 years ago so I guess could be worse !!! I do my best to keep going some days are better than others so I learn to take the good day and do what I can and the others I just roll with. Austin | ||
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Post# 1104639 , Reply# 13 1/15/2021 at 17:17 (1,196 days old) by Dermacie (my forever home (Glenshaw, PA)) |
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I know first hand from my father, grandfather, and great-grandfather and myself have all suffered greatly from type II diabetes. Following a meal plan is very important to keeping your A1-C in check. Also Eugene testing blood sugar after and before meals is important to know how your body reacts what you have eaten.
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| Post# 1104876 , Reply# 15 1/17/2021 at 19:44 (1,194 days old) by Maytagbear (N.E. Ohio) | ||
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Mentioned it only a time or two, maybe............. King Arthur Baking Company..........hundreds, if not more FREE recipes for all sorts of baking, ALL SORTS. and cooking...... Also.......public libraries?? Lawrence/Maytagbear, I am now recovering from COVID-19, and a hospital stay. | ||
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Post# 1104921 , Reply# 16 1/18/2021 at 07:39 (1,193 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Lawrence- Sorry to hear you were in the hospital! Damn COVID. Hope you aren't having too many lingering effects.
You're right, there are many places to find recipes, including the public library. The internet has all but replaced the public library for me since COVID hit. I live only a couple of blocks from the local library and used to enjoy stopping in to read newspapers. Take care of yourself and keep us posted on your progress in recovering from COVID. I was hoping to be vaccinated within the next month or so, but for a number of reasons, the number of vaccines we get per week out here in the rural areas have plummeted. The state is working on getting everything back on track, but now that the more infectious strain has been found in my area, it can't happen soon enough. | ||
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Post# 1104944 , Reply# 17 1/18/2021 at 10:47 (1,193 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ) |
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Sorry to hear. Best wishes for a smooth recovery. | ||
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Post# 1104975 , Reply# 18 1/18/2021 at 15:36 (1,193 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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Re: Reply#15
Lawrence I’m so sorry to hear about you having Covid and being hospitalized.
I believe from reading some of your previous posts that you already had some health problems. Getting Covid and having to be hospitalized must have been very frightening for you! I wish you all the best for a complete and speedy recovery. I also hope that you have someone that is helping you out after you get home. Take Care! Eddie | ||
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Post# 1104979 , Reply# 19 1/18/2021 at 15:50 (1,193 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 1104997 , Reply# 20 1/18/2021 at 18:24 (1,193 days old) by earthling177 (Boston, MA) |
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Lawrence, I'm sorry to hear about your covid -- here's hoping things improve as fast and as easily as they can. | ||
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