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Miele W&D Set Going Cheap In NYC
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Post# 1119831   6/9/2021 at 21:14 (986 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Well cheap as your're going to get a Miele set... *LOL*

You're welcome!

Post# 1119915 , Reply# 1   6/10/2021 at 21:05 (985 days old) by RickC (New Jersey)        
Washer cord

It looks like the washer power cord is cut, with white tape wrapped around the ends. Am I seeing that correctly?

Post# 1119925 , Reply# 2   6/10/2021 at 21:53 (985 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Post# 1119934 , Reply# 3   6/10/2021 at 23:02 (985 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Good catch!

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Yes, it appears that power cord was cut on washer. That seems rather odd for a unit that supposedly hasn't left seller's home.

During last year or so due to covid pandemic many people up and moved house. Selling for very little money, or just giving away large appliances that didn't want to, or couldn't take with them.

Am not saying it is true with this situation, but maybe seller got these units for free or cheaply, then was told by the co-op they couldn't have a W&D, so now they must get rid.

Here in NYC when building managers dispose of large appliances they usually do things to make them inoperable. Power cords are cut, bits removed... Can understand for fridges and freezers, but often for washers and dryers doors are taken off as well. Tellingly you don't find the doors sitting next to or near appliance....

Just last week spied a nice Bosch compact w & D set sitting next to an apartment building a few streets over. It was near rubbish bins, but not yet on curb for collection. While hoses were still attached to washer and power cord intact, doors had been removed from both washer and dryer. And no, neither wasn't anywhere near to be found.

If the cord truly has been cut on this Miele washer it should be *free*. While suppose an expert splice job would do, much safer to remove what remains of old cord and attach new.

On older Miele washers this was easy enough. Unless electrical connection box comes apart, has screws at bottom or something it's going to take opening up to of washer to get at connections.

Someone handy with appliance repair likely could manage it, but if Miele is sent for to do the job cost of parts and labor will easily be a few hundred USD.

Post# 1119939 , Reply# 4   6/10/2021 at 23:21 (985 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

I have the same washer in stainless steel and I simply love it. It's my new daily driver.

RevvinKevin has some 120V Mieles like that. Maybe 2 or 3? I don't remember exactly and I still didn't receive the weekly update.

Post# 1119944 , Reply# 5   6/11/2021 at 01:38 (985 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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If had room would offer a few bits for washer (if seller would let it go by itself). Knowing a new cord fitted by Miele will cost easily a few hundred between their call out charges and inflated prices on parts.

OTOH if cord replacement could be done easily would do it oneself and save some money.

Capacity wise believe 3XXX series are about same as W1, but may use a bit more water.

Post# 1119963 , Reply# 6   6/11/2021 at 06:56 (984 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

"Change in co-op rules." What a bite in the butt. There was probably a fight about water usage or vibration or illegal installation and the cord was cut to prevent usage.

Post# 1119965 , Reply# 7   6/11/2021 at 07:18 (984 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
Cut power cord

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Is it not easy enough to either put a plug on the end of what's left or buy any decent cord from a hardware shop and remove the white plastic cover replace it and have a nice new cord....?

Maybe the power for the washer was through the side of a cupboard and the cord would be cut threaded through and joined together.


Post# 1119968 , Reply# 8   6/11/2021 at 07:59 (984 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Suppose one could simply put a new plug onto what's left of cord, but it's very short. Outlet would have to be very near washer or likely won't reach.

While have heard of NYC co-ops forcing washing machines that were illegally installed to be removed. A "change in rules" telling shareholders with previously approved machines that they must come out is a new one.

Post# 1119998 , Reply# 9   6/11/2021 at 15:57 (984 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Another thing

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Wit cord cut you cannot test washer in any way when collecting. Nor will you be able to run the thing until a new cord or plug is fitted.

Post# 1120001 , Reply# 10   6/11/2021 at 16:51 (984 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Cut Power Cord

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It is very easy and safe to splice a cut cord back together, no need to waste money and resources replacing entire cord.


If you are not sure of your ability splicing a power cord use a steel junction box with cover.


John L.

Post# 1120028 , Reply# 11   6/12/2021 at 03:42 (984 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
"Change in co-op rules."

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Tom was just going to ask about that, is it likely that they where not allowed them in their apartment then if installed against their tenancy ?

Could they have had them installed and then the landlord changed the rules ? does that happen often ?

Post# 1120034 , Reply# 12   6/12/2021 at 06:27 (983 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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How good were these 120 v. Miele washers at doing "boil-washes"? Or did they?

Post# 1120058 , Reply# 13   6/12/2021 at 13:13 (983 days old) by Brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

The 3xxx series is about 4 towels less capacity than my W1.

My weekly darks load which is a cram it full load in the 3xxx usually goes in the Duet, however it fits in the W1 without being packed full, it fits to just a comfortable full instead.

The W1 holds significantly more wash than the earlier generations, the drum is a tight fit in the W1 cabinet, the free space of the earlier generations is gone.

Post# 1120073 , Reply# 14   6/12/2021 at 16:14 (983 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

It seems like if it was legally installed, it would be grandfathered in if the rules changed which is why I suspect some sort of conflict.

Post# 1120091 , Reply# 15   6/12/2021 at 19:02 (983 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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FWIU in NY at least once a co-op or condo gives permission for washer and or dryer to be installed, they simply cannot turn around and say take them out later.

Also if washer was installed without permission and it can be proven building knew it was there and did nothing, then it often becomes grandfathered with co-op or condo board losing rights to order removal. Same thing with a dog; if lease says "no pets", but resident gets one anyway building has a time frame to act. If resident lives with pet openly and building could and should have been aware of existence, then after period of time there's really nothing they can do.

Boil washes....

Miele W1 sold in USA has the same maddening temperature choices as many other European washing machines nowadays; Hot+, Hot, Warm+, Warm, and Cold.

In manual you're told:

Hot+ - 140°F/60°C

Hot - 120°F/50°C

Warm+ - 105°F/40°C

Warm - 85°F/30°C

Cold - Whatever tap cold water is from faucet, no heating involved.

There is also Sanitize option which is 170°F/75°C

Within given cycles certain temperatures are pre-set, so if you want to do cottons at 170F only Sanitize cycle will provide that temp. Don't know if Miele W1 allows changes set temperatures ranges for each cycle. This and or if one can create a custom cycle that would say give 170F at anything else but Sanitize cycle.

For the record average wash temps in Europe long have been around 41 degrees C. Even in Germany 90°C/95°C (boil wash) is rarely used with 60°C being the more commonly used highest temp selected when users want a very hot wash.

Park of this of course is that thanks to modern detergents and or boosters sold in EU with advanced activated oxygen bleaching systems what once took boil wash temps easily can be done at 60°C.

Post# 1120094 , Reply# 16   6/12/2021 at 19:19 (983 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Seller ended things early because "item is no longer available...".

Saw same advert on local CL so assume seller did a deal outside of eBay.

This has been happening with increasing frequency on eBay for few years now. While understand why it is maddening.

Post# 1120215 , Reply# 17   6/14/2021 at 00:35 (982 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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