Thread Number: 88461
/ Tag: Modern Dryers
has anyone had this problem with there 220 volt dryer? |
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Post# 1130184   10/2/2021 at 18:06 (936 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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hello to all aw as anyone had this problem before 1 the dryer burning the 220 volt plug where its plug in and then burning the power cord to plug the dryer in the plug has been replace by an electrician now in wait for a maytag tech to replace on the dryer the power cord pic of the dryer that has the problem new since july 4 2021
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Post# 1130190 , Reply# 1   10/2/2021 at 19:27 (936 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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You need to have the electrician replace the cord and the outlet at the same time if either shows any damage.
Maytag WILL NOT cover the cord, the dryer did not come from the factory with a cord on it the installer added the cord and if it burned up it is likely the outlet caused the problem, don't waste your time waiting for them to fix this, get the electrical back there.
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Post# 1130197 , Reply# 2   10/2/2021 at 20:03 (936 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 1130410 , Reply# 4   10/4/2021 at 22:22 (933 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1130434 , Reply# 5   10/5/2021 at 09:31 (933 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 1130438 , Reply# 6   10/5/2021 at 10:15 (933 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 1130449 , Reply# 7   10/5/2021 at 12:00 (933 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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here a pic of the damage power cord on the dryer plug on the wall is brand new since end of september
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Post# 1130450 , Reply# 8   10/5/2021 at 12:36 (933 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 1130451 , Reply# 9   10/5/2021 at 12:52 (933 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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this is the new outlet so will wait and see what the maytag tech will say for the dryer sorry pic a bit dark
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Post# 1130458 , Reply# 10   10/5/2021 at 14:00 (933 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)   |   | |
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If the plug was heating up the outlet should be replaced, no two ways about it. |
Post# 1130461 , Reply# 11   10/5/2021 at 14:17 (933 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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the first thing that was check when the electriciant came was the breaker then check the plug replace the plug and recomend us to have the power cord change do i have my doubt sinxe the plug is brand new that it will need to be replace will see tomorow if no burning smell is coming from the plug when the dryer with new power cord is plug in that means everything is fix so will know more tommorow
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Post# 1130483 , Reply# 12   10/5/2021 at 20:03 (933 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 1130511 , Reply# 13   10/6/2021 at 08:02 (932 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 1130530 , Reply# 14   10/6/2021 at 13:42 (932 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 1130532 , Reply# 15   10/6/2021 at 14:34 (932 days old) by donprohel (I live in Munich - Germany, but I am Italian)   |   | |
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I repeat what has been said by others: the outlet must be replaced, because even if it wasn't defective, now it has been damaged like the dryer cord |
Post# 1130535 , Reply# 16   10/6/2021 at 14:55 (932 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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the problem was cause by the outlet the outlet is brand new so i doubt the outlet needs to be replace again after a new cord has been intall the outlet is ok and brand new and the electrician told us after installing the new outlet not to plug the dryer in so i doubt that when the power cord on the dryer is change that it will happen again
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Post# 1130536 , Reply# 17   10/6/2021 at 15:07 (932 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 1130547 , Reply# 18   10/6/2021 at 16:09 (932 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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You said in Reply #7 "plug on the wall is brand new since end of september" On what date in September was the wall outlet replaced? On what date did the damage occur to the dryer plug? The wall outlet was replaced AFTER the damage occurred to the dryer plug? It's a bit difficult to read your posts because you write without punctuation to separate your sentences. |
Post# 1130548 , Reply# 19   10/6/2021 at 16:38 (932 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 1130552 , Reply# 21   10/6/2021 at 17:10 (932 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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new plug was install by a master electrician and some should reread the title of my thread the title is as anyone add this problem with there 220 volt dryer if it was the wiring of the plug the electirican would of open up the wall near the outlet to check the wiring that was not needed so going 1 step at a time as i mention and please stay in topic i do not went this topic to become a debate or an argument thread
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Post# 1130553 , Reply# 22   10/6/2021 at 17:15 (932 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)   |   | |
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It matters not how good the electrician is, the outlet got hot, so it's done. |
Post# 1130559 , Reply# 23   10/6/2021 at 17:51 (932 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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9/20/2021 is your estimate for the date on which the wall outlet was replaced? You asked about the plug damage on 10/2/2021, the original post on this thread. Is that the day it happened? Or you don't know when the plug damage happened? What led you to find the damaged plug? Has the wall outlet been replaced AFTER you found the damaged plug? What everyone is trying to tell you for the safety of yourself and your mother and your house is that the wall outlet ALSO must be replaced if it has NOT already been replaced AFTER the damage to the plug was found. This post was last edited 10/06/2021 at 18:07 |
Post# 1130569 , Reply# 25   10/6/2021 at 18:54 (932 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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the plug was replace the same day the electrician came Maytag came today but has to order the new dryer cord dryer has not been in use sine the outlet been replace since h=i have not plug the dryer and i doubt it will happen again when new cord is in what the elctrician told us the original plug was poorly install i am no expert so do not know more thatn what i mention
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Post# 1130575 , Reply# 27   10/6/2021 at 19:22 (932 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 1130597 , Reply# 28   10/7/2021 at 06:57 (931 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Its hard to tell whether the outlet or a defective cord caused this problem, in general the outlet is more likely to cause this problem because the field installed wires that attach to the outlet are often not done well.
Reply #14, WOW, apparently service techs are just as bad in Canada as the US,
Any tech that is going to work on an electric dryer with a burned cord and does not show up with this very standard part is wasting everybody's time. [ the master electrical should have also replaced this damaged cord ]
This dryer does not need a thermal fuse, a new heating element much less a control board, I would not let the tech change any of these parts, taking the dryer apart and changing these parts might lead to problems later, they are likely bilking WP for a lot of parts they can sell to others or are just plain stupid.
[Note the cord was not improperly installed on the dryer, if it was improperly installed it would have failed at the terminal block]
We see this type of service problem all too often, The Master Electrician should have changed the outlet and cord, this problem should not have involved Maytag it is not their fault in any possible way.
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Post# 1130602 , Reply# 30   10/7/2021 at 08:26 (931 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Will see in time, but should i suggest to my mom that we have the dryer exchange but if the dryer is exchange this means exchanging the washer as well the set in the pic was my choice but when bough in july it was not in stock
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Post# 1130604 , Reply# 31   10/7/2021 at 08:41 (931 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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I have a question sorry for posting it here if my mom decide to go with exhange via the store where washer dryer was purchuse do you think i should suggest to my mom that she exchange for speed queen eather model tr7 with matching dryer or speed queen tc5 with matching dryer but negociate that they put them at the price of the maytag set purchuse in july? if my mom opt for exchange because i am starting to suspect that the dryer might be a possible lemon thank you for any answer just went to prepare a plan b if needed to be exchange
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Post# 1130609 , Reply# 32   10/7/2021 at 10:29 (931 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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There is NOTHING WRONG with your MTD, At this point I would go buy a new cord and install it yourself, this is getting ridicules !!!!
The electrician should have done this, can you use a screw driver ?, There are instructions that came with the dryer how to install a cord, have your Mom do it even.
If not get the electrician back to finish the job, I would not let the idiot MT servicer touch your new dryer.
John L. |
Post# 1130637 , Reply# 33   10/7/2021 at 17:35 (931 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1130644 , Reply# 34   10/7/2021 at 18:32 (931 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 1130647 , Reply# 35   10/7/2021 at 18:51 (931 days old) by Marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now living in Palm Springs and Dublin)   |   | |
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Unless I’m missing something, isn’t the video in reply #33 a great example of how NOT to do it? It appears to my untrained eye that the dryer would be left dangerously ungrounded if wired as shown in Whirlpool’s video. Shouldn’t the dryer’s white grounding wire be removed from the green screw and attached to the middle terminal block (combined ground & neutral) when using an older-style 3-wire cord?
In any case, the OP is in Canada and has a 4-wire cord (I’m not even sure if 3-wire was ever used for dryers in Canada). It seems as though the most logical course of action would be to replace the wall receptacle and the dryer cord. I see no reason to suspect any kind of fault with the dryer itself at this stage.
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Post# 1130648 , Reply# 36   10/7/2021 at 18:52 (931 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 1130653 , Reply# 37   10/7/2021 at 19:35 (931 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Pierre, your electrician is an idiot also, If he can't change a dryer cord get a different electrician.
Reply #29, Hi Matt, A defective dryer CAN NOT cause the plug and receptacle to fail, If voltage is low the heater amp draw goes DOWN not up, The 4 amp motor could possibility go up to about 5 amps with low voltage but then the motors overload will cut the motor off long before it burns up a 30 amp cord-set.
There is no possible failure of an electric dryer that will cause power draw to go up, and if it does one of the 3 internal fuses or overheat devices will cut off the heater or motor, and if that does not happen and the dryer was drawing more than the30 amps that the cord and outlet is rated for the homes 30 amp breaker will shut it down before it could damage an outlet or cord.
I have been working with these systems all my working life.
This whole problem was caused by a poorly installed outlet or possibility a poorly made cord, nothing more and nothing less.
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Post# 1130656 , Reply# 38   10/7/2021 at 19:44 (931 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington NC)   |   | |
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Post# 1130659 , Reply# 39   10/7/2021 at 20:04 (931 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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for one thing it would be an under warrenty repair and my mom is simply following the advice given by the electrician he was the one that suggested to my mom she call maytag to ask for a genuine factory cord and even if i did replace the power cord my self what if the control board has fryed as well as the heating element or termal fuse those kind of repairs i would not be able to do this my self and i am greatful for the advice but like i said in one of my replys outlet is brand new since the electrician came to replace the outlet the day i made this thread and my fear is even if i did it my self what if there an other problem that can not be detected sigh feel like i am repeating myself pic 1 new outlet 2 damage cord and the electrician told us when condo was built the original plug was poorly install 1 and second it nearly happen back in 2015 when i still had duet dryer.
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Post# 1130664 , Reply# 40   10/7/2021 at 22:34 (930 days old) by Marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now living in Palm Springs and Dublin)   |   | |
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Looking at this again, I think the video was correct and my understanding of the video was wrong.
I think the white wire is the neutral that is in fact supposed to be connected to the green ground screw (i.e. to the metal frame) as a way of grounding the dryer via the neutral wire. Whereas with a 4-wire connection, this white wire is not actually needed and is therefore screwed to the terminal block’s neutral as a way of safely stowing it neatly somewhere in case it is needed in the future. Still, this is off topic really. |
Post# 1131563 , Reply# 41   10/21/2021 at 05:00 (917 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1131594 , Reply# 42   10/21/2021 at 14:31 (917 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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This is ridiculous, apparently so called “experts” don’t know how to replace a cord and outlet. I could probably replace the cord myself very quickly and have a electrician replace the outlet and this whole fiasco would have been over a long time ago. It really is absurd when they insist on replacing the heating element and every other part in the dryer when those items aren’t the culprit for a bad cord and yes it’s a good idea to check everything with a volt meter just to be sure but replacing those parts is complete ridiculousness.
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