Thread Number: 89308
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FOUND 1972 GE Filter Flo |
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Post# 1139031   1/11/2022 at 17:10 (835 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)   |   | |
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Hello all, I found this mint 1972 GE Filter Flow Model WWA8400NBHLT (ser TM142541G). Supposedly this machine sat unused for 30 years! I wish I knew more about the backstory, but when the price is free, I'm not asking too many questions. The machine works fine from what I can tell. Clutch seems to take awhile to shift into high speed agitation, although I'm not sure what's normal. Maybe a leak during spin cycle, but I can't tell if that is just coming from the drain hose (which does leak). I'm sorta in need of a daily driver, so this machine will be put right back to work. Center post is a little rusty. It would be fun to tear down this machine, but the further you go in, the more stuff to replace. I'll have to work on increasing my GE parts cache for now.
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Post# 1139032 , Reply# 1   1/11/2022 at 17:20 (835 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)   |   | |
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Post# 1139039 , Reply# 2   1/11/2022 at 18:36 (835 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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Wow! Does it even still have the wood panel on the back?
It looks great for being 50 y.o. Can you believe it's half a century? Is the drain hose rubber or white plastic? Is the water valve mounted on a recessed plate accessible from the back or are the hoses attached in a way that you have to remove the back to gain access to the valve? I wouldn't have hesitated to get this golden gem! |
Post# 1139049 , Reply# 3   1/11/2022 at 19:33 (835 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 1139061 , Reply# 4   1/11/2022 at 21:18 (835 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1139078 , Reply# 5   1/12/2022 at 05:46 (834 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 1139091 , Reply# 6   1/12/2022 at 08:19 (834 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Congrats Jed, this a great washer that is also rarely seen these days. The separate wash/rinse temps really make this a versatile washer to use as a daily driver.
The drag shoes can get a bit touchy over time and take a bit longer to release the outer drum for the clutch to get to full speed. A rebuild of the clutch or replacing it with a new clutch assembly (plentiful on eBay) would solve this issue. As for the leak... it's a GE. Let's hope it's just the drain hose but there is also a good chance that the outer tub may have some holes. Determine if it is indeed the drain hose or potentially the outer tub outlet port grommet that is leaking. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions or are looking for parts. To answer the question above about the placement of the water valve, the valve is rear mounted by '72. In fact this change occurred mid way through the '70 L models. Ben |
Post# 1139098 , Reply# 7   1/12/2022 at 10:11 (834 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Slow pick-up to fast speed.
There is nothing wrong with this at all, it can take over 30 seconds for this shift to happen, and in fact the longer it takes it just indicates that the clutch carrier bearing is in great shape.
The GE washers where it shifts into high speed in just a few seconds are the clutches you are more likely have a problems with because there is a lot of friction in the carrier plate bearing, on these clutches if you use low speed much the carrier plate bearing may fail sooner.
John L. |
Post# 1139108 , Reply# 9   1/12/2022 at 14:53 (834 days old) by gregingotham (New York)   |   | |
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love the controls and the large filter pan of this model. |
Post# 1139110 , Reply# 10   1/12/2022 at 15:22 (834 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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"placement of the water valve, the valve is rear mounted by '72. In fact this change occurred mid way through the '70 L models."
Thank-you Ben. Maybe you also know when they switched from the rubber wire-wound drain hoses to the white flex. plastic? And when did they change the lid hinges over to the plastic? ----- As for #8. Don't give up on your clogged filter-pans. They are cleanable. Take a plastic bag about the size of the pan (with no holes), put the pan in the bag, pour in at least a cup of white vinegar, tie the bag shut and allow the bag to sit a few days on a flat surface so that the bottom is soaking in the vinegar. After a few days you should be able to take the pan out, rinse it and all the gunk should flush down the drain. And DON'T put detergent in the pan. 1. as you've mentioned it can clog the filter pan.... along with hard water residue. 2. I've found that when the washer first comes on there is a sudden blast of water from the spout and that will cause some of the detergent to go flying up onto the lid and other areas where it won't get rinsed away. 3. It's best to add detergent to the bottom of the tub, before adding clothes. This gives the detergent time to dissolve properly for washing.
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Post# 1139114 , Reply# 11   1/12/2022 at 16:00 (834 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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cleaning the filter pan....
take it your local car wash.....or you home power washer.... put it on the ground, use your foot to hold it in place, and run the water over it....will clean up in a jiffy.... that pan with the center recessed area was for use with a fabric softener dispenser, the solution would fall in there and be held until agitation started during the rinse, versus dropping the softener directly on the clothing... |
Post# 1139121 , Reply# 12   1/12/2022 at 16:53 (834 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)   |   | |
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CONGRATULATIONS!!! on your great find...hope to be as LUCKY and find the next to the of top of the line model WWA 8500N...with the timed bleach and fabric softener dispensers |
Post# 1139123 , Reply# 13   1/12/2022 at 16:59 (834 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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Do NOT take a pressure washer to the rather delicate webbing of a filter pan clogged with gunk.
Dissolving the mineral build up with vinegar is the easiest.
Messy splash-back alone is a very real threat with the pres. washer.
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Post# 1139125 , Reply# 14   1/12/2022 at 17:01 (834 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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Are you referring to the Dispensall?
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Post# 1139132 , Reply# 15   1/12/2022 at 17:41 (834 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Was placed in it, The detergent actually helps clean it.
The filter pan is getting clogged with mineral deposits NOT DETERGENT, detergent will dissolve and rinse away easily.
The mineral build up is caused by using too little in hard water, GE FF Washers use a LOT of water, ever look at an old instruction book for GE washers ?, depending on water conditions they suggest using as much as 4 cups of detergent for hard water areas [ and this was when detergents had phosphates ]
Have you ever noticed the wall in a really dirty shower stall where it is covered with white soap scum and the only clean area is under the soap dish !!
Soaps and detergents prevent mineral build-up, there is really no such thing as detergent build-up.
John L. |
Post# 1139134 , Reply# 16   1/12/2022 at 18:01 (834 days old) by Good-Shepherd (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Hmm, so how much detergent for hard water areas in a 19 gal DC Maytag? |
Post# 1139138 , Reply# 17   1/12/2022 at 18:39 (834 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)   |   | |
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Hey bradfordwhite, not the Dispensall...the difference between the models is pic. 1 and 2 control panel center logo is the AMERICANA, and pic. 3 is the HEAVY DUTY 18...but, they have the same washtub as your new find |
Post# 1139142 , Reply# 18   1/12/2022 at 18:54 (834 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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I love those toggles! Give me several more please.
Do like the graphics on the Dispensall panel, but frankly I don't need the dispensall top. It was gimmicky, imo. The timed dispenser was no doubt good.
I had a dispensall unit but the dispenser thing was tricky and it got gunked up with gross lint. They only made it a few years for a reason.
I'll take the TOL in #17 def. I need those toggles. |
Post# 1139158 , Reply# 20   1/12/2022 at 20:56 (834 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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This a truly nice find! You will enjoy this washer a lot.
Our 72 low-end GE FF had a wire clothes guard, this is late production?
Have only found one Dispensall, gold of course, but the under-lid pan that stored the additives and channeled the water had been long removed. It had the Super-Filter, softener dispenser and a liquid detergent dispenser that dropped down into the recess in the pan to dispense detergent after the pre-wash spin. Obviously you could not use both agitator mounted dispensers at once. Speaking of absurd water-use, with a pre-wash and extra rinse option on the TOL washer, you could blow well past 100 gallons for one load of wash. |
Post# 1139159 , Reply# 21   1/12/2022 at 21:08 (834 days old) by Cam2s (Nebraska)   |   | |
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I always like these Filter Flos. Was there particular years or reasons that they switched between the straight vane agitator and the ramped agitator? |
Post# 1139251 , Reply# 23   1/13/2022 at 15:11 (833 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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The metal glide hinges switched over to the all plastic version starting mid year on the 1970 L models, identified as LH or LX.
The anti-kink WH41X184 drain hoses started showing up as an alternative part with '70 L series machines and by '72 was listed as the standard drain hose for non suds machines. Ben |
Post# 1139294 , Reply# 24   1/14/2022 at 02:18 (833 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)   |   | |
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That's the same model that was in the Home Economics department at my high school, along with the matching dryer. |
Post# 1139387 , Reply# 25   1/15/2022 at 07:07 (831 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)   |   | |
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My favorite color too! I’ve got a number of GEs now. Closest one of mine to this one is the ‘76 Dispensall. My 1970 GE is more of a hangover from the previous few years. This washer has a pretty large capacity and the agitator does very well in my opinion. Slow shifting of the clutch is a good thing. My ‘70 model GE had a very dirty clutch and actually wouldn’t even work in gentle speed. Tearing the clutch down, cleaning and lubricating it did the trick. It sometimes would take a while to shift but over time it has become more normal, usually shifting about the time the tub locks into place. Enjoy your beautiful GE!
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Post# 1139720 , Reply# 26   1/18/2022 at 11:46 (828 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)   |   | |
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Hey Jon, I sent you an email about your '76 Dispensall. It might have automatically been sent to your spam. |
Post# 1139849 , Reply# 27   1/20/2022 at 06:07 (826 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)   |   | |
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Post# 1139852 , Reply# 28   1/20/2022 at 09:25 (826 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)   |   | |
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Yeah me too...okay thanks |
Post# 1139857 , Reply# 29   1/20/2022 at 10:30 (826 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Post# 1139862 , Reply# 30   1/20/2022 at 11:23 (826 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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