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Post# 1139352   1/14/2022 at 18:47 (833 days old) by SeventiesGal (Highland Park)        

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Hi, we have a midcentury house and would like to keep the kitchen appliances seventies-era. We’re looking specifically for a dishwasher right now, but will also be looking for a gas oven/range. Attached, some photos of our kitchen. We live just north of Chicago, but willing to drive up to two hours away for the right one!

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Post# 1139354 , Reply# 1   1/14/2022 at 19:15 (833 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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Look for a GE range. They were the top dog back then, very reliable and durable, easy to repair, and lots of parts still floating around to keep it cooking right along.

 

A Kitchenaid KDS 18, 19, or 20 will also compliment that cheerful kitchen. This dishwasher had it all back then...Powerful, reliable, durable, easy to service, great classic appearance, and parts still floating around.

 

A Radarange microwave would also suit that kitchen nicely.


Post# 1139358 , Reply# 2   1/14/2022 at 19:36 (833 days old) by SeventiesGal (Highland Park)        

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Thank you, that’s such useful and valuable information. I’m an avid appreciator of the aesthetic of sixties and seventies appliance design, but next to nothing about the relative practicality of various brands.

I’ve seen some intriguing specimens crop up on marketplaces wildly outside my geographic area, and can’t help but wonder how financially feasible it could be to have something like a dishwasher shipped…🤔


Post# 1139360 , Reply# 3   1/14/2022 at 21:02 (832 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)        

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I'm loving that aesthetic. I wouldn't change ....much.

Just m.o. from experience: Unless you have knowledge of servicing appliances or know someone, there are certain appliances it might be less headache to stick with something newer.

Stoves really haven't changed that much in 50 years, and they last because there are no moving parts and they have no water in them. "Updating" your stove to a retro harvest gold (or other color) WITH electronic ignition will probably be easier and there are more choices. It's also going to have more presence in the kitchen.

As was mentioned above about the microwave, another good idea that one will get noticed.

A retro 70s refrig would be 3rd on the list BUT it depends on what it is and how efficient it is. That late 90s Whirlpool looks good and will be reliable for you.

As for the dishwasher....they have technologically changed. They have moving parts and they have water inside so there is issues with reliability. A dishwasher is the most likely appliance to be found as replaced in older homes because of all the usage they typically get.  70s dishwashers also did not have the best reputation as back then they were still a "new" appliance for the home.

Finding a used one will be more difficult.

Finding a WORKING one will be even more difficult.

A novice keeping it working will find that a challenge which might take some of the fun out of the retro experience, if you know what I mean.

There is limited presence of a dishwasher: it's just a 24" base cabinet front. It's very easy to do what you've done to any dishwasher that is simply painting or applying a wrap on the door panel and it's probably the best choice for long term peace in your home and enjoyment of the aethetic.

If it were me, and keep in mind I know how to fix retro dishwashers, and I had a (nearly) completely retro kitchen like yours: I would look for a newer (past 10 years) dishwasher or even a new one. I'd look for something quiet, with 3rd rack, and all the newest options.
Then, I would get some harvest gold (or avocado, coffee, candy pink, or whatever retro color you want) contact paper or wrap and simply do the door.

You could even wrap your white microwave sides. It's affordable, easy, and you won't have headaches of service issues.

If you look at the archives, herein, it's not unusual to find people, such as yourself, who were enthusiastic to get "the real thing" and found a 40 y.o. dishwasher and had someone install it.... but now they have a problem. There's no warranty. It's difficult to find service people now who fix those old machines. You get the picture I hope.

Best of luck to you.



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Post# 1139363 , Reply# 4   1/14/2022 at 22:01 (832 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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Hi Corbyn,

 

I don't think it would be that expensive to ship a dishwasher or a stove, but you would ideally want to arrange for shipping yourself as opposed to accepting the buyer's options.  There are certain shippers that members here use, and they are reasonably priced independent operations.  If you find something on line that's far away, make a post here and ask for shipping recommendations.

 

Meanwhile, yours is the epitome of Shirley Jones kitchens (see:  The Partridge Family reruns).  It's beyond refreshing to see a post from someone who wants to celebrate its design style rather than offer appliances they're junking due to a 2022 gut job.


Post# 1139367 , Reply# 5   1/14/2022 at 22:32 (832 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Corbyn, your existing dishwasher is from the 1980s/early to mid 1990s. I suggest keeping it.

Post# 1139371 , Reply# 6   1/14/2022 at 23:19 (832 days old) by whatsername (Denver, CO)        

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I agree with the above comments about the dishwasher. & hi from Denver! Ski the west indeed!

Post# 1139379 , Reply# 7   1/15/2022 at 06:01 (832 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
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Post# 1139380 , Reply# 8   1/15/2022 at 06:05 (832 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
and a range

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Des Plaines. anything else?



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Post# 1139381 , Reply# 9   1/15/2022 at 06:08 (832 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
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Post# 1139382 , Reply# 10   1/15/2022 at 06:10 (832 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
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Demotte Indiana Truly 70's vintage



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Post# 1139384 , Reply# 11   1/15/2022 at 06:13 (832 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
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Post# 1139385 , Reply# 12   1/15/2022 at 06:16 (832 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
Grayslake

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Post# 1139396 , Reply# 13   1/15/2022 at 09:43 (832 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        
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I like that dishwasher and have the matching washer and dryer with that control panel design.

Post# 1139399 , Reply# 14   1/15/2022 at 10:06 (832 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Buttons appear to be Pots & Pans, Heavy Wash, Normal Wash, Low Energy Wash, China Crystal, Rinse Hold, Hi-Temp Washing, Energy Saver Air Dry, Reset Options.  Rinse Hold appears to be a separate timer cycle at bottom of the dial.


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Post# 1139405 , Reply# 15   1/15/2022 at 12:29 (832 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)        

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I agree, I like that burl wood and chrome. Very early to mid 80s chic.

This one even appears to have some kind of light on the panel.


Post# 1139408 , Reply# 16   1/15/2022 at 13:05 (832 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Best 70s and 80s kitchen appliances

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The best gas ranges are going to be caloric, Hardwick or maybe a Tappan from the 70s or 80s try to get one with electric ignition there a lot less trouble.

A self cleaning oven also a plus as they were much more energy efficient.

Unfortunately GE does not make gas ranges until the 90s.

John L


Post# 1139414 , Reply# 17   1/15/2022 at 13:55 (832 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
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Post# 1139415 , Reply# 18   1/15/2022 at 13:57 (832 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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I think that Whirlpool dishwasher would be perfect in your kitchen.  If it's old enough it may have extra panels for the front that are harvest gold or avocado.

 

The Caloric range appears to be in the best shape and IMO it's the best looking.  I like the sturdy burner grates on it.  All of the others have flimsy grates that will rattle.


Post# 1139417 , Reply# 19   1/15/2022 at 14:01 (832 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)        

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If anyone can find the best retro appliances Kenny/Goatfarmer certainly can.


Post# 1139433 , Reply# 20   1/15/2022 at 15:27 (832 days old) by Jetaction (Minneapolis)        
I have this for sale, can be a built in or portable

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I live in Minneapolis however, a little further than 2 hours from you. Just thought I would share this, it is a great dishwasher!

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Post# 1139435 , Reply# 21   1/15/2022 at 16:01 (832 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)        

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I love those buttons.

 

I had a rental property with one of these in it as a built-in.

I've heard they ....are kind of loud though.  They wash like they mean business.  lol.

 

I would get it just for the self advancing timer and all the buttons.


Post# 1139441 , Reply# 22   1/15/2022 at 16:32 (832 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Maytag

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Thats a beautiful TOL reverse-rack - I didnt realize they made this model as a portable!


Post# 1139529 , Reply# 23   1/16/2022 at 14:49 (831 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Where did the original poster go?

 


Post# 1139532 , Reply# 24   1/16/2022 at 15:34 (831 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        
Where did the original poster go?

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I was asking myself the same question.

 

An all-too-common occurrence here, but maybe it's just a busy weekend or she's out picking up items posted above.


Post# 1139541 , Reply# 25   1/16/2022 at 17:50 (831 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Caloric range in post number nine.

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Unfortunately came from the Sunray division and it’s basically a POS, don’t buy a caloric range that’s not self cleaning.

You also want to make sure it has the waist high infrared broiler in the oven those are the real calorics.


Post# 1139551 , Reply# 26   1/16/2022 at 19:07 (831 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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Too bad it's not a real Caloric.  I guess the burner grates are the only good thing it has going for it.


Post# 1139636 , Reply# 27   1/17/2022 at 16:44 (830 days old) by SeventiesGal (Highland Park)        
Sorry, all! I’m here; kids have been home and I’ve been busy

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Hi! I’m busily making my way through y’all’s suggestions. Wow and thanks ever so much. Assessing goatfarmer’s (admirably thorough) collection and I’d already reached out some of those listings. One of them would only let you take the entire (not wanted) kitchen set, some were the wrong width, and some never responded. But there are some new ones I’d not seen in there, and I’m trying all that seem like a good fit. Also bearing in mind the other detailed advice in the comments regarding brands, etc. LOTS to think about here. One of you recommended we just use our current dishwasher…it’s been diagnosed hopelessly broken. I guess we could get a second and third opinion…

Anyway, THANK YOU all so much! I knew this was the right place


Post# 1139640 , Reply# 28   1/17/2022 at 17:04 (830 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Let us know of the outcome!


Post# 1139641 , Reply# 29   1/17/2022 at 17:14 (830 days old) by SeventiesGal (Highland Park)        
I am getting a vintage microwave on Wednesday!

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Thanks to y’all’s advice, I searched for (and found) a 1987 Amanda Radarange microwave. It’s not one of the super hot looking chromed-out versions (I couldn’t find one of those locally, and the ones on eBay etc average around $200 plus HUGE amounts for shipping), but it’s charmingly *brown and low-tech* and I love the aesthetic. It’ll be a fun swap to make. I’ll have plenty of takers for my modern white model 🙌 Thanks for that immediately useful tip!!!

Post# 1139643 , Reply# 30   1/17/2022 at 17:35 (830 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)        

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Might want to hold onto that white microwave, maybe put it in storage in the basement.... just in case.

Post# 1139663 , Reply# 31   1/17/2022 at 19:26 (830 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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I agree about stashing the current nuker somewhere as a backup. Older microwaves durability reflected their high prices when new but sometimes they require minor repairs like a door switch or a high voltage capacitor.

Post# 1139675 , Reply# 32   1/17/2022 at 21:28 (829 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        
Nukers

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I think a lot depends on the make and how much use it has seen.  We had a huge TOL Panasonic that I got new in 1980 and used it until we moved in 2008.  Everything on it was still working perfectly.  That said, it's now 14 years later so even a 1987 that's still working has my Panasonic beat.  Modern ones can be found cheap for temporary replacement if the Radarange should develop problems. 

 

Sidebar:  I would happen by our former home occasionally after we sold it.  One day a few months after we moved, I saw the Panasonic at the curb.  I had sworn off collecting after going through a move so I just kept driving, but it made me sad.  I knew in my heart that it wasn't out there because it was broken.


Post# 1139707 , Reply# 33   1/18/2022 at 07:42 (829 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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Through the early 2000's, Panasonic microwaves had the reputation of a 70's Maytag washer. Unsure if they succumbed to the current planned obsolescence standards of today.

My folks gave a away their 1981 Litton microwave to a neighbor after installing an over the range GE in 1996. The GE died 11 years later and another GE was installed. That one died 10 years later and something else took its place. The Litton they gave away is STILL being used by that neighbor without a repair. 41 years of service without a repair is impressive.


Post# 1139709 , Reply# 34   1/18/2022 at 08:12 (829 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Older microwave oven durability pre-2000 and before

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Older microwave ovens even going back to the 60s were much more durable.

They were much more overbuilt and the magnetrons were not stressed in them because they put out a lot less power for the amount of energy they consumed.

When they started making 800 W 1100 and 1200 W microwaves they’re using basically the same magnetrons and Just throwing a lot of power into them so the magnetrons tend to burn out and fail. On top of that door switches in just about every other part of them in the has become very cheap, even the wiring is so small you see a lot of wiring failures at door switches and other components to say nothing of the cheap electronics that control them.

I’m still using my 1972 Amana is a daily driver never repaired once. I also have a large 2001 GE countertop microwave and a Thermidor combination wall oven microwave all three of them are used many many times every week.

If you’re planning a kitchen you should never consider putting a microwave over a cooking appliance like a stove top or range, it’s dangerous it ruins the durability of the microwave oven. And it’s a fire hazard.


Post# 1139723 , Reply# 35   1/18/2022 at 12:14 (829 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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Dan and John, you're making me nervous.  My current home has a GE OTR microwave.  I don't trust it, I don't like having my face a foot away from it when it's operating at the same time I'm using the cook top so I stay away from it, it's super annoying to have to open the door in order to get a look at contents of a pot on the back burner, and most of all, I'm holding my breath until it fails.

 

We bought another Panasonic inverter microwave when we moved (2008) and left the 1980 one behind.  It had a smooth touchpad, which I don't like, but it also had a round knob you could simply turn to set the time and push "Start."  The thing I liked most was the "Sensor Reheat" option.  One touch and it knew what to do.  The GE requires scrolling and selecting a few times before it will do anything, so I end up using the "Add 30 Seconds" button a lot.

 

The Panasonic went to a friend when we moved again in 2018 and is working fine in her kitchen.  I had the opportunity to use it on during the 2021 holiday season and I realized just how much I miss it.  My only complaint is that the selections I used most wore off even before we gave it away.


Post# 1139739 , Reply# 36   1/18/2022 at 15:19 (829 days old) by steved (Guilderland, New York)        
We 86'ed the OTR microwave

Ralph, when we moved here 9 years ago and wanted to redo the kitchen, we decided against an OTR Microwave. I wanted a decent exhaust hood over the gas cooktop. We use the micro to defrost, reheat and cook frozen veggies and oatmeal. We ended up with this Sharp that installs like an OTR and has a great reheat feature, turntable and counter lighting. It's beside the fridge as that's a handy spot near the table.

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Post# 1140185 , Reply# 37   1/23/2022 at 18:52 (824 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
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