Thread Number: 89377
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
If Speed Queen sold through Kenmore |
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Post# 1139873   1/20/2022 at 12:33 (826 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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If Sears was still around, would they ever have considered doing business with Alliance? If Sears carried Speed Queens under their own name, would that help get Speed Queen into more homes? I think their top load and front load platform are perfect and could be sold from single knob classic cleans to MOL dual action AWN-542s, all the way up to an wifi enabled perfect wash machines.
There is something about people having luxurious build quality, metal inner and outertubs, reliability, durability, dependability and a long warranty. Yes Speed Queen machines are more difficult to service, but with longer life a low manufacturing defects Sears could easily afford to replace lemons and push for a new washer (vs repair) after 25 years of service. Imagine if 80% of new washers in the US were Speed Queens. Imagine if Whirlpool had to go back to the drawing board to compete. |
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Post# 1139874 , Reply# 1   1/20/2022 at 12:44 (826 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1139895 , Reply# 2   1/20/2022 at 17:17 (826 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Alliance laundry systems does not sell through big box stores and that would include places like Sears
It’s not part of their marketing strategy. Most repairs on speed queen washers and dryers are actually much easier than just about any other brand. Yes doing a transmission on a speed queen Toploader is harder than a direct drive but it’s no more difficult than a Maytag or GE or many others. And Speed Queen front loaders are far and away the easiest front loader to work on just about ever built. Speed Queen being commercial equipment at heart is designed to be repaired easily. John L |
Post# 1139896 , Reply# 3   1/20/2022 at 17:25 (826 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 1139900 , Reply# 4   1/20/2022 at 18:09 (826 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Right, but are these strategies just keeping Speed Queen out of people's laundry rooms? The average consumer does not know the difference between mom/pop and Best Buy, the buying selection is done on the store's site or on the show room floor- in fact there is an assumption that big box has a wider selection hence why people go there in addition to lower prices. I've seen Bosch and Miele at big stores, and there is a market for high priced goods at the bulk retail level.
I have to disagree, Whirlpool is made for service. Thats one reason why Whirlpool dominates. From the no-tools-to-open hinged control panel to the caulk free tub seal assembly to the motor bracket not being a gillete razor makes service just a bit less involved. |
Post# 1139904 , Reply# 5   1/20/2022 at 18:38 (826 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Some smaller towns don't have a mom-and-pop appliance dealer. The only choices here are a Sears Home Store, and a home improvement "tiny-box" store (not more than 50 total locations across multiple states) with very limited selection. And a couple rent-to-own outfits if those can be counted as retailers. The closest big-box stores and possible mom-and-pops are 40 to 55 miles distant ... and folks from here are much more likely to hit the big-boxes than seek the mom-and-pops. My home town and the next town over from it (the county seat) have nothing. |
Post# 1139924 , Reply# 6   1/20/2022 at 23:45 (825 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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Post# 1139933 , Reply# 7   1/21/2022 at 06:08 (825 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 1139967 , Reply# 8   1/21/2022 at 11:59 (825 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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little too late, but anything could have been possible. The demise of Sears was as much orchestrated as the rest of the retail/industrial downsizing schemes. |
Post# 1140001 , Reply# 9   1/21/2022 at 17:07 (825 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 1140018 , Reply# 10   1/21/2022 at 19:28 (825 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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Post# 1140027 , Reply# 11   1/21/2022 at 20:30 (825 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1140028 , Reply# 12   1/21/2022 at 20:32 (825 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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It would be nice if speed queen sold to kenmore. Their perfect wash system can have recirculating pumps and windows in the lid. In addition to that, it could have bulk detergent, softener, and bleach dispensers. |
Post# 1140609 , Reply# 13   1/29/2022 at 00:29 (817 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 1140641 , Reply# 14   1/29/2022 at 12:16 (817 days old) by thatwasherguy (Kentucky)   |   | |
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Speed Queen was sold through sears in the early 90’s. It appears they had to be special ordered though. Here’s a picture of a page from the 1991 fall-winter catalog.
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Post# 1140671 , Reply# 17   1/30/2022 at 02:19 (816 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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How much more expensive was the Speed Queen design when compared to Whirlpool BD, Whirlpool DD and GE Filter Flo? I honestly have no idea.
I always assumed the Filter Flo was the most expensive design because of the of weight and amount of metal used in the machine. One can wish though. It would have been so sweet to see the design at 20:00 sold in the millions. <3 ?t=1200 |
Post# 1140717 , Reply# 18   1/30/2022 at 16:26 (816 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Reason why premium brands like Speed Queen don’t sell at big box stores is because they cater to small businesses and not greedy corporations. Like John Lefever said it’s not really their marketing strategy. It’s like if Kirby were to sell their vacuums at big box stores (not to bring up the subject of vacuum cleaners lol) since they like Speed Queen cater to small independent stores and dealers rather than big box stores since again they are owned by greedy corporations.
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Post# 1140808 , Reply# 19   1/31/2022 at 13:43 (815 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 1140826 , Reply# 20   1/31/2022 at 19:13 (815 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Post# 1140868 , Reply# 21   2/1/2022 at 00:55 (814 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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Yes they're rebranded Kirby Vacuettes. I posted a thread on vacuumland.org if you wanted to take a closer look at it. www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bi...
Anyways, I really like that Speed Queen is mainly sold through independent retailers. That's one of the reasons why I think SQ is so special and why I would buy them to use for myself personally. I'd rather buy a SQ through a dealer and help a dealer save up to buy a present for someone they're close to for Christmas than buy a SQ through a department store and help a CEO save up to buy another vacation home. However, I do agree with Glen that not alot of areas have SQ dealers. You'd have to drive tens or hundreds of miles to go over to a laundry dealer store than rather drive less over to a discount store. And I would hate to have a dealer come drive out far away to have my SQ fixed or serviced versus having a Sears Parts & Service Center nearby. That would be my only exception of buying a SQ through Sears or have it repaired by them instead. |
Post# 1140881 , Reply# 22   2/1/2022 at 10:07 (814 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1140887 , Reply# 23   2/1/2022 at 12:09 (814 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Melvin, I can attest to Sears selling Amana badged SQ washers in the late '90s. That's where we got our '97 Amana pair. I remember checking out the Maytag Atlantis first and seeing that it didn't bear any resemblance to a real Newton machine. The WP/Kemore machines were flimsy DD types. I wanted no part of either of them. The Amanas were on sale, they had shiny stainless tubs and were quite sturdy in comparison, so that was that.
Little did I know that the tinny lightweight DD machines would be less trouble, but I'm a sucker for build quality and long stroke agitation. There was no AW site back then. I subscribed to CR and used their ratings as my guide. At that time the Amanas were top rated (live and learn). I know I would have been really pissed as soon as a new WP/KM/MT began agitation if we had bought one of those, and certainly would have returned it.
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