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Why was the Unimatic Washer Discontinued?
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Post# 1142286   2/15/2022 at 18:00 (801 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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This looks like a really good, durable well performing washer. Why was production stopped so early? The GE FF design ran over 50 years with production going on until the mid 90s. Can you imagine if the Unimatic was produced until 1996? I'd have thought the Unimatic could have made it at least into the mid 1970s.











Post# 1142297 , Reply# 1   2/15/2022 at 18:54 (801 days old) by thatwasherguy (Kentucky)        
I’m not a Frigidaire expert by any stretch, but...

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From what I’ve heard, I believe it was discontinued because the unimatic mechanism was complex and expensive to produce. In the early 60’s (‘63, maybe?), it was replaced by the rollermatic system, which, along with being cheap was used from the rapidry 1000 line all the way to the end of the 1-18 line.
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Post# 1142307 , Reply# 2   2/15/2022 at 20:32 (801 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Other than laundromat installations, Unimatics ceased being sold to the home market beginning with the 1959 model year with the MultiMatics.

Post# 1142311 , Reply# 3   2/15/2022 at 20:46 (801 days old) by Thatwasherguy (Kentucky)        

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I probably should clarify what I meant by cheap before I accidentally offend Frigidaire fans. (I’m not real familiar with them, but I like them a lot). I meant that the rollermatic system was cheaper to produce than the Unimatic mechanism was, not that it was cheaply built. (From what I’ve heard, they were very well built. Just figured I’d clarify.
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Post# 1142318 , Reply# 4   2/15/2022 at 21:18 (801 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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I'm mostly speculating, but it boils down to profit and meeting the demands of the evolving market and competition. 

 

As for profit, the basis of the Unimatic mechanism is this huge piece of cast iron - the mechanism base.  It probably weighs in at 10 pounds.  The casting and machining costs alone on this would be enough to force the change in a high volume/domestic appliance, let alone the cast iron found in the rotating mass that produces the pulsation for agitation.   And while it could be argued that a two speed motor could have been incorporated within the mechanism the fact that the rotating speed was 1140, and not 1725, would have forced a change within the gearing for agitation if multiple speeds were desired.  This is also before considering the amount of torque required at the start of spin.  It would have been costly to make this work.

 

As unpopular as this opinion may be, the Multimatic mechanism was the right move for the time, even with the many issues that came along with the '59 models.  Most of the bugs were worked out by '60 and by '63 the overall clutch drive and transmission were improved enough that it was put into commercial use by '65. 

 

The Unimatic serving the commercial side of the business in 1959 was also a smart move.  New tooling wouldn't be needed to support the platform, multi-speed washers were not a requirement within a commercial setting, and the overall mechanism was much more robust to take the abuse of hour over hour use throughout a day.

 

While the Rollermatic mechanism may seem and feel more cheap compared to either the Unimatic or Multimatic, it also shows how over built both platforms were by the time GM introduced the Rollermatic, that had been in development for almost 5 years by the time it was debuted in 1964. 

 

My best guess is GM would have ditched the 1-18 Rollermatic mechanism by the mid-80s and had gone with an agi-tub / agitator based washer platform, before selling off the Frigidaire division to the highest bidder by the end of the 80's.

 

Ben


Post# 1142372 , Reply# 5   2/16/2022 at 14:14 (800 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Yes Sean,

that and planned obsolescence. It wasn't always done to cut costs, but to evolve a product for better performance.

Post# 1142383 , Reply# 6   2/17/2022 at 15:49 (799 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
We Have a 1958/9 Tragimatic

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And I could go on for hours about how 'interesting' that mechanism is.
I worked on over 70 rollermatics a billion years ago at student housing. I wouldn't say they were 'cheap'. It would be better to say they were designed with consumable drive parts.
Which, like the most essential parts for the IBM Selectrics (best typewriter keyboards, ever) were quickly dropped from production.

One of the goals for Frigidaire was to keep highly trained people working so they didn't get lost to the competitors. Another goal was to make use of existing technology/factory equipment. Yet another was to use 'waste' - the balance ring filled with iron filings being an example.

One goal they did not have was for their washers to become like their refrigerators - a 'one and done for the next three generations' appliance. Planned obsolescence
played a role in getting rid of the Unimatic for residential customers. I'm guessing, but the need for different speeds at low production cost also didn't help.

Our 1958/9 thumper (and she's PANK!) is currently working. With multimatics, that was then and is today always a wonder.


Post# 1142408 , Reply# 7   2/17/2022 at 17:24 (799 days old) by Thatwasherguy (Kentucky)        
I didn’t mean…

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That they were cheaply made. I only meant that they were cheaper to produce than the unimatic mechanism was, not that they were any less quality. I’m sorry if I’ve caused any misunderstanding. I really should have worded that better.
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Post# 1142439 , Reply# 8   2/17/2022 at 19:04 (799 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
But they were much more cheaply made

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In all contexts. I love thumpers (especially in PANK!) and I've been through the...shredder...with the killer queens over that, so I get the need to tread cautiously.
Now question about it, Unimatics were the pinnacle.


Post# 1142463 , Reply# 9   2/17/2022 at 21:07 (799 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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And the WCI58 was the Pinnacle of Unimatics!!

Post# 1142511 , Reply# 10   2/18/2022 at 12:03 (798 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
RE: reply #9

While it was the pinnacle of Unimatic washers, it was getting very lonely being a single speed TOL automatic agitator washer by 1958. Their reputation for ruggedness was certainly used to bitch slap the 1959 machines which used too small a motor and required rebuilding of the new washers after repeated service problems in customer's homes.


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