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Thread Number: 89650
/ Tag: Modern Dryers
Fisher and Paykel Topload dryer (Post images below) |
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| Post# 1142544 2/18/2022 at 21:55 (968 days old) by Smartdrive1100 (Melbourne, Victoria, Australia) | ||
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| Post# 1142563 , Reply# 2 2/19/2022 at 06:16 (967 days old) by Smartdrive1100 (Melbourne, Victoria, Australia) | ||
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Would love some photos! | ||
Post# 1142565 , Reply# 3 2/19/2022 at 06:56 (967 days old) by gizmo  (Victoria, Australia) |
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Were they sold in Australia? I thought they were US market only??
Not 3 phase power supply - they use a 3-phase motor, but it uses its own internal electronics to create the 3 phase supply to its motor, the power supply to the machine is single phase. | ||
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Post# 1142595 , Reply# 4 2/19/2022 at 14:55 (967 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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 I bought a SmartLoad DEGX1 in Oct 2004 (with an IWL12 washer). Repaired a bad heating element and cleared lint accumulation from the filter/blower housing in 2014. I found an LED AquaSmart / AeroSmart DE62T27D pair in August 2018. Converted them to LCD models by changing the control panels and have been using them as the "daily drivers" since that time. Passed the DEGX1 to my parents. Have found two more SmartLoads DE62T27G with matching Eco Smart washers. So, I have four topload dryers ... two in-use, two spares not yet refurbished. Two IWL12 Intuitive Eco washers, a WL26CW1 AquaSmart, a WL37T26CW2 AquaSmart, and two WA37T26C Eco Smart washers (not yet refurbished). | ||
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Post# 1142596 , Reply# 5 2/19/2022 at 14:57 (967 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1142643 , Reply# 7 2/19/2022 at 20:30 (967 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1142652 , Reply# 8 2/20/2022 at 01:50 (967 days old) by Brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia) |
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The issue in AU was that they needed a 32amp circuit and to be hard wired. A 20amp dryer circuit is rare a 32amp dryer circuit is non existent. I wanted one, but the cost of running a circuit was almost as much as the dryer. | ||
| Post# 1142654 , Reply# 9 2/20/2022 at 02:06 (967 days old) by Smartdrive1100 (Melbourne, Victoria, Australia) | ||
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Post# 1142678 , Reply# 11 2/20/2022 at 11:59 (966 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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There's a resettable overheat protector thermostat on front of the heaterbox. Reply 5, Pic 3, the thermostat with a red button on green background. The thermostat above it and the one on lower-front of the heaterbox are to limit the input air temperature to the drum depending which element(s) are active. A thermistor on the blower outflow housing controls the target drying temperature. Two heating elements per Pic 10. 1,400 watts and 3,600 watts. The larger element operates alone for Low and Medium temp. Both for High temp. The smaller operates alone in reverse-tumble direction (lower airflow rate). Gas heating has differences accordingly. | ||
| Post# 1142703 , Reply# 12 2/21/2022 at 00:12 (966 days old) by Smartdrive1100 (Melbourne, Victoria, Australia) | ||
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You can change tub speeds!? | ||
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Post# 1142714 , Reply# 13 2/21/2022 at 08:49 (965 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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There's no user adjustment settings for the motor RPM. The motor is reversing and variable speed. The controller operates it accordingly to the required function ... closing the drum door, finding "home" position if necessary to prepare for opening, opening the drum door, forward tumble, and reverse tumble for 40 seconds every 4 mins. Forward and reverse tumble seem to be the same speeds. Airflow is lower in reverse due to the blower wheel design being optimal for forward direction. | ||
| Post# 1142733 , Reply# 14 2/21/2022 at 14:25 (965 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas) | ||
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Post# 1142895 , Reply# 17 2/23/2022 at 03:31 (964 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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La Mère Denis was "spokesperson" for Vedette washing machines in 1970's. A traditional French blanchisseuse (washer woman), one supposes Vedette sought to reassure French housewives their laundry would receive same treatment. Going by how Mère Denis is whacking away at that linen one really should hope not.
enenvor.fr/eeo_actu/apresW/la_mer... www.francebleu.fr/emissio... Last time one checked Vedette was purchased by CEVITAL www.cevital.com/brandt-al... | ||
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Post# 1142924 , Reply# 20 2/23/2022 at 14:04 (963 days old) by Logixx (Germany) |
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Never heard of Rosières | ||
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Post# 1142978 , Reply# 22 2/23/2022 at 23:56 (963 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Love my toplader AEG for many of reasons noted in that YT vid. You can see why French homes, in particular flats, like these sort of washing machines. Never understood why top loading H-axis washers never really took off outside of France and few other European countries. Of course in North America there have been top/side loading "pony" commercial washing machines for ages.
One thing YT reviewer didn't mention, and perhaps it doesn't apply to his washer, is that by filling with warm or even hot water throws off washer's programming. Thus the confused appliance will shorten wash cycle (basically substracting portion of cycle allotted for heating water), and get rid of certain other bits as well. Both my AEG washers will do this and it's sort of a pain in summer when tap cold water is quite warm. Not only will washers abort heating portion of cycle, but usually last ten or so minutes of recirculation spraying is gone as well. As for balance of YT reviewer's comments, they were spot on regarding energy use. Plenty of boat owners of all sorts face issues regarding running modern washing machines on "ship" power. This was less of an issue with older washers with electro-mechanical controls where temps could be set independent of cycle, and or were dual hot/cold fill. | ||
| Post# 1142987 , Reply# 23 2/24/2022 at 05:39 (963 days old) by Smartdrive1100 (Melbourne, Victoria, Australia) | ||
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Post# 1142992 , Reply# 25 2/24/2022 at 06:38 (962 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Not only the topload dryers have disappeared from the market, but also the topload combo's that were so popular for small Paris apartments. I guess they couldn't be made efficient enough to the latest standards. But the demise of this particular appliance means that there is no substitute for the only combo that some Parisians depend on.
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Post# 1142996 , Reply# 27 2/24/2022 at 07:14 (962 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Also just remembered There are several pretty decent slim depth combos that take the space of a TL, just with an FL loading door (so 45cm deep). | ||
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Post# 1142998 , Reply# 28 2/24/2022 at 07:54 (962 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Don't forget Whirlpool top loading H-axis washers.
Almost nabbed one, it was here stateside being sold by a French family who brought it over from France in a house move, but were going back and didn't want it any longer. Should have gone ahead and taken the thing, if for nothing else but fun. But was going through it with the AEG/Electrolux at the time, and thus had hands full. www.automaticwasher.org/c... www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/... www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/... www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/... Whirlpool holds number of patents for top loading washer H-axis for ages now, but they've done little with them far as one can see. patents.google.com/patent/CA2148... Zanussi H Axis Jet System Top Loader, Perspex Lid Demo BOSCH WOH 1010 Toplader Bauknecht WAT Prime 652 To be fair WP's top loading H-axis is wider, more like industrial side loading washers. | ||
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Post# 1142999 , Reply# 29 2/24/2022 at 08:10 (962 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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The Whirlpool models that are available nowadays are exactly the same width as the AEG/Electrolux models, they are both 40cm wide. Miele is 45cm.
Actually the Whirlpool is a relabeled Indesit product just like the latest Bosch and Siemens models and some other brands. Electrolux machines are sold as AEG, Electrolux, Zanussi and some other labels. The difference shows in the detergent dispenser. Dispenser on the lid is an Indesit product. Removable dispenser at the back of the drum is an Electrolux product. There are some more manufacturers (Miele and others), but these two dominate the European toploader market at the moment. The quality of the Electrolux products is way better than that of the Indesit products. | ||
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Post# 1143142 , Reply# 31 2/25/2022 at 19:58 (961 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Don't find using top loading h-axis washer a bother, this even with "two lids". At least to one reaching down often beats having to squat down to load/unload washers with front door or porthole.
Also with my toplader can just take things out and drop into basket, again as opposed to bending over and having to haul things out of drum and dump into basket. Some of this might come from being an American and thus quite used to top loading washing machines both fully and semi automatic. Suppose it really all comes down to what tickles one's fancy. | ||
| Post# 1143161 , Reply# 33 2/26/2022 at 01:15 (961 days old) by Smartdrive1100 (Melbourne, Victoria, Australia) | ||
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Got a video from someone about a dryer.
Any thoughts about it? CLICK HERE TO GO TO Smartdrive1100's LINK | ||
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Post# 1143170 , Reply# 34 2/26/2022 at 06:52 (960 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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The main reason for the reduced interest in toploaders in Europe is the wish to stack a dryer on top of the washing machine, at least on the European continent where a laundry set often is installed in a bathroom rather than in a kitchen. A stacked frontloader and dryer have a smaller footprint than a topload washing machine and dryer next to eachother. Also the fact that there are no heatpump dryers available as toploader reduced the interest in topload dryers.
I still see a lot of topload washing machines in older people's homes, especially when they line dry everything. You often see it here in houses from the 70's that are on the market. Most of them owned for many years by the same owners. Often a rather new washing machine in a house with a decor from the 70's. | ||
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Post# 1143171 , Reply# 35 2/26/2022 at 06:59 (960 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Here's a picture I posted before. The Siemens topload sets were the first topload combinations.
I told the story before, but I never get tired of telling it. lol I mailed Fisher & Paykel this picture with some others of topload dryers when they launched their topload dryer. The campaign said it was a world's first. They responded that they would look into the matter. Their campaign was stopped and later they came with a new slogan: The world's first large capacity topload dryer. I guess it's the only time I had a little influence on the white goods market. lol
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Post# 1143175 , Reply# 36 2/26/2022 at 10:23 (960 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Smartdrive1100/Callan, your video link doesn't work. It appears to be a link to a FB message you received. I don't think those can be shared as working links, anyone clicking the link would need to be logged-in to *your* FB account to view it. You'd need to save the video as a file on your computer, then upload it for public view to YouTube or other photo/video-sharing service and provide that view-share link. | ||
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Post# 1143193 , Reply# 38 2/26/2022 at 13:38 (960 days old) by Logixx (Germany) |
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| Post# 1143198 , Reply# 39 2/26/2022 at 14:28 (960 days old) by Smartdrive1100 (Melbourne, Victoria, Australia) | ||
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DADoES,
Oops, I thought I downloaded it as a video link, perhaps not. I’ll try and describe it best as I can, It doesn’t seem to have any big scratches or dints, but the lid and control panel are a bit faded and looks to have crayon marks. It seems to sound normal. It’s the only one listed, should I wait for another one or get this one? | ||
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Post# 1143203 , Reply# 40 2/26/2022 at 15:10 (960 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Washing machines in bathrooms were hardwired here with a special switch with a cord. The switch was installed high up the wall so you couldn't touch it under normal circumstances. This was already done in the late 70's, not sure how it was before.
Nowadays the rules are less strict, I have normal Schuko outlets in the bathroom between the two sinks. I think there is a minimal distance from tub or shower so you can't touch them when you're bathing.
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| Post# 1143262 , Reply# 41 2/27/2022 at 03:34 (960 days old) by Smartdrive1100 (Melbourne, Victoria, Australia) | ||
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It sold!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Post# 1143288 , Reply# 42 2/27/2022 at 09:46 (959 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1143370 , Reply# 43 2/28/2022 at 02:36 (959 days old) by Smartdrive1100 (Melbourne, Victoria, Australia) | ||
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