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If Forced To Choose Only One Modern Major Appliance
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Post# 1147024   4/20/2022 at 22:15 (734 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        

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What would you have?

Washing machine?


Clothes Dryer?

Am asking because it wasn't that long ago it seems when our mothers or grandmothers generation started out and lived with for some time only one major appliance. In most homes it was a fully automatic washing machine.

When parents were starting out and just bought their house Mother got an automatic washing machine. That's far as Dad would go then, so Mom used clothesline in yard. Later on Dad loosened up the mousetrap and sprung for a dryer.

One night while again being saddled with KP duty, asked Mother why we didn't have a dishwasher. She shot back she already had three of them (myself and siblings), so that was me sorted.

Post# 1147025 , Reply# 1   4/20/2022 at 22:28 (734 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        

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Most certainly a washing machine! I could hang clothes to dry and I already wash the dishes by hand anyway. But Iíll be damned if Iím willing to hand wash all the laundry, oh hell to the no to that!

And BTW Laundress my Mom was just like yours, LOL.

My siblings and I were her dishwashers, and she said the same thing as your Mom more than once. Mom never had an automatic dishwasher except for one month in May 1962, We had a 1956 Westinghouse DW that broke down within a month after moving into that house. My Dad died in June and the DW was the least of our problems and was never repaired.

We never really missed having a DW. And I have one, but havenít used it in 4 years now. And I donít miss using it one bit either.


Post# 1147027 , Reply# 2   4/20/2022 at 22:35 (734 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        

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After getting that vintage GE portable dishwasher find oneself using it less and less as time went buy. Just seemed quicker to wash things by hand than moving that big heavy DW about. It's taking up space that could be used for one of my washing machines, so have a feeling by year's end it will be going somewhere else....

Thus can see why many households either never bothered with a dishwasher, or even used them much or at all if they had.

Few of my aunts had dishwashers when one was growing up, they still washed things by hand. Myself and cousins couldn't understand why we were stuck in kitchen washing dishes by hand with that nice DW just sitting a few feet from sink. One cousin dared to voice her opinion, she never did that again... *LOL*

Post# 1147028 , Reply# 3   4/20/2022 at 22:39 (734 days old) by Egress (Oregon)        

Honestly, tough decision between a dishwasher and a washing machine, though I think washing machine beats out the dishwasher. Haven't had a dishwasher since january and have had to hand wash dishes every day, but thats manageable I feel compared to handwashing clothes & sheets & the lot.

Post# 1147032 , Reply# 4   4/20/2022 at 22:59 (734 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        
Done a fair bit of laundering bed and table linens by hand

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To lessen wear and tear on Miele or even AEG front loading washers. Both seem to work best when loaded near or at capacity, far less bother with OOB spins.

Also certain bed linen have nasty habit of balling up which contributes to OOB issues.

Years ago now bought a Child's "rapid washer" posser, and am here to tell you it works a treat. Using a tub and posser can get through two sheets and pillow slips in < 20 minutes washed and rinsed twice, all with little effort. Things are then bunged into spin dryer for bit, then onto lines.

These sort of vacuum possers really do shift dirt. Have done really filthy loads like dust cloths, socks (worn around house indoors), and so forth. With first downward push it is amazing how much dirt is forced out. Just five minutes of such "agitation" and things are clean.

Also find doing dark or black colored items by hand results in far less lint.

Post# 1147037 , Reply# 5   4/20/2022 at 23:41 (734 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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Dishwasher. Most dishwashers today have heaters and wash decently when loaded accordingly. Reliability and is a whole different subject though.

I need a vintage washer since I can't tolerate dumbed down temps, poor rinsing, no lint filter, and a lack of flexibility in modern top loaders.

Prefer my vintage TOL Maytag dryers which have much better durability, reliability, and build quality than anything currently on the market.

Post# 1147044 , Reply# 6   4/21/2022 at 02:36 (734 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
I guess it would have to be a washing machine..

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I can wash dishes if I have to.  Wouldn't be thrilled about it but I would.  However, I'd rather have a boil implant than have to go to a laundromat to do my laundry.  Just the idea of having to sit there for a few hours a week waiting on machines, ARGH!

Post# 1147047 , Reply# 7   4/21/2022 at 06:03 (734 days old) by iej (.... )        

Absolutely would have to be a washing machine. Thereís no other household chore thatís as difficult and so much drudgery.

Washing dishes, while not much fun, isnít all that big a deal and drying clothes on a line works fine (most of the time.)

If you want to go further I suppose the other big one (probably more important) is the fridge. It would be extremely difficult to manage without one - especially when you consider the amount of fresh dairy and so on that we keep. It would be literally going back to Victorian days.

Modern cooking appliances are also rather important. Can you imagine going from induction, modern ovens and so on to cooking on an open fire or even using a solid fuel burning stove / range.
While ranges still exist here theyíre sort of a show piece / hobby / historical artefact. You may have a few diehard Aga fans, but 99.9% of them are not used as a primary means of cooking.

Post# 1147049 , Reply# 8   4/21/2022 at 06:37 (734 days old) by angus (Fairfield, CT.)        

I would go with a washer. I can't imagine trying to do laundry by hand or having to rely on a laundromat. My mother grew up in the 40's in a family of 12 kids. She and her next older sister were tasked with doing the entire family laundry on a washboard in the bathtub, which included boiling, bleaching and bluing. So her one non negotiable was she wanted a washer even in a Brooklyn apartment. When we moved to Connecticut in 1966 the house didn't have a dryer or dishwasher - we didn't get either one until I was a senior in high school (around 1975). The dryer didn't get that much use since she was used to a clothes line and then it was saved for towels, underwear and socks. Everything else went outside.
She loved the idea that the dishwasher left glassware streak free and sparkling but hated leaving dirty dishes even for one day and wasn't a big fan of unloading the thing as she liked everything tidied up and put away at the end of every meal and those dishes meant "unfinished business".
Fast forward to today. If necessary I could manage without a dishwasher since I live alone, and like my mother, use the clothesline more than the dryer. But for those occasions when I have a large dinner with lots of glasses, nothing beats the dishwasher for results. Over the years, I made sure to only have glassware that is dishwasher safe so the Villeroy and Boch can go in but the Kosta Boda is so fragile it breaks if you look at it the wrong way. Haven't used that in over 30 years. Last time was Christmas 1990, one of the coldest days of the year. After washing the wine glasses, placed them in the rack across from the window to air dry and someone then opened the kitchen window. The water we used must have been too hot and within less than a minute of the icy air rushing in, heard 5 popping noises and that was the end of 5 wine glasses. Lesson learned.
The kicker about hand dishwashing is that you just have to wash more carefully. One of my friends, an engineer who knows everything and lives like it's the 1940's literally refuses to use his dishwasher as anything more than a drying rack, even when he has his family dinners. He claims to have his dishwashing down to a "process" (a term engineers love) to minimize water usage, using dishwashing liquid very economically and get it done very quickly. Only one wrinkle. On more occasions than I care to count, dinner at his house usually includes re wiping flatware and glasses before I eat since both are usually streaked and spotted. Odd, he is remarkably fastidious everywhere else and accuses me of "drama washing" with the dishes.
Can't help it - I have an overly sensitive nose and the other unacceptable item for me on dishes and glasses is the "egg" or "poultry" smell that lingers after working with raw versions of either. I get a whiff of that at either someone's house or the diner or other restaurant and the meal is over before it starts. So drama queen or not, whenever working with either, before going into the dishwasher, everything gets rinsed in cold water and bleach first - bowls, utensils, cutting boards, sink, etc...
Works for me.

Post# 1147050 , Reply# 9   4/21/2022 at 07:09 (734 days old) by rpms (ontario canada)        

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One appliance I could do without is a freezer.
Unless you have a big family or are a hunter I just don't see the need for it.
How many of us do not live within a twenty minute walk or drive from a grocery store.
I find chest freezers are the worst. Who ever really sees the bottom of one and knows what is really in there?

Post# 1147051 , Reply# 10   4/21/2022 at 07:15 (734 days old) by iej (.... )        

My freezer is often more like some kind of cryogenic graveyard for stuff I forgot that I had!
Itís great for ice cream and maybe the odd frozen pizza and a few specific items like frozen pastries, but I find I buy stuff, put it in the freezer when I realise I wonít be likely to use it. Then I forget about it for months and months and eventually have to throw it out because I realise that I have no idea how long it was there.

I have a pair of 2 meter tall fridge freezers side by side, so the bottom 1/3 of each is a freezer which gives me about 4 full drawers and two halves at the bottom. They can take it down to -26įC (ó15įF) so in theory you can store stuff for a long time, but I just donít really buy much frozen food.

Also cooking from frozen is really complicated! Defrosting etc etc.
I did find it a bit useful during the COVID lockdowns, but thatís not really reflective of how I normally live.

Post# 1147053 , Reply# 11   4/21/2022 at 07:39 (734 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        

If we're talking Kitchen & Laundry...

If I had to pick ONE, it'd be a Thor washer/dishwasher combo. I've done the switching several times and it wasn't a problem. I'd just need both the machine and the tub not in use on pedestals high enough that I'd use my shoulders and not my back.

Post# 1147059 , Reply# 12   4/21/2022 at 09:16 (734 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        
Thor washer/dishwasher combo.

Now that's cheatin'. Ain't it? wink

Post# 1147061 , Reply# 13   4/21/2022 at 09:51 (734 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
My choice...

I'd go for a washer, dryer, and dishwasher. All GE, all matching.

Post# 1147062 , Reply# 14   4/21/2022 at 10:04 (734 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
dishes and laundry

I hate washing dishes by hand. I have a dishwasher for that, so I'm not gonna complain. I will ABSOLUTELY NEVER do laundry by hand or on a line. I'm grateful to have a washer and dryer for that. I can't live without either of them.

Post# 1147065 , Reply# 15   4/21/2022 at 10:43 (734 days old) by eriksp (Norway)        

You know, the obvious choice for most people here is the washing machine, but I think I would actually wash my clothes on a washing board for the rest of my life compared to having to do my dishes by hand for the rest of my life.

Post# 1147072 , Reply# 16   4/21/2022 at 11:47 (734 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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Refrigeration isn't a point of concern?

Post# 1147074 , Reply# 17   4/21/2022 at 11:56 (734 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Being as Laundresses question is which one of those particular three appliances would you choose over the others given no choice it would have to be a washing machine of some sort. I don't like doing dishes but could get by as we have in the past and I can and already do hang laundry out when I can,so a dryer isn't really essential But I'm not going to do my weekly laundry by hand or dragging it to a laundromat.

Post# 1147107 , Reply# 18   4/21/2022 at 17:56 (733 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        

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Purposely left out appliances like fridges, freezers, modern ranges, stoves and ovens because don't consider them mod cons, but essentials. Right up there with indoor plumbing including running hot and cold water.

Modern refrigeration and freezing is one of the biggest health benefits of appliances, not to mention household economics.

As for solid fuel fired ranges, ovens, etc..., as someone said yes there is a group out there that love using AGA type ranges, but they are a small minority.

Post# 1147117 , Reply# 19   4/21/2022 at 19:04 (733 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        

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Think with trend of smaller families or households nowadays washing dishes by hand is less of a bother. In past with two adults and several children multiplied by at least three meals per day, that's quite a lot of dishes, pots and pans that want washing up daily.

Have always found when cooking or baking if one cleans up as one goes, there is less washing up afterwards overall.

Post# 1147121 , Reply# 20   4/21/2022 at 19:32 (733 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        
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I completely agree with you Launderess. To me its just easier to get her done. I hate having unfinished business. When DWís were fast, like under an hour to complete a cycle I didnít mind so much, and of course at the time I got my first DW in Ď87 it was a novelty, something that Iíd aspired to all my life, since I grew up without one. But the new DWís that take over an hour, some over 2 hrs., well by that time Iím over KP duties and I donít want to have to stop watching a program Iím interested in to unload the DW and put everything away. Which would frequently also require drying off some items that didnít dry completely or wash something that didnít get completely clean, it happens no matter how careful you load the DW. And Iím sure as hell adverse to getting up in the morning to a full DW that needs to be unloaded, no bueno!

Then 4 years ago this month I experienced the straw that broke the camels back as far as DWís go with me. I had a fully loaded DW and I was preparing dinner in the afternoon. The DW cycled off, I opened it and when I pulled out the rack everything was still dirty, with the food dried on(Iíd selected heated dry). Apparently the pump and motor went out and the water didnít recirculate and the detergent Pod never released from the cup.

I had to take ALL those baked on dirty dishes out and hand wash them in the midst of preparing a large dinner. Since it was just under a year old I had Whirlpool repair it. They put a whole new motor assembly in it. However by that time Iíd been washing the dishes by hand for 3 weeks, even a family Easter Dinnerís worth of dishes. And I discovered that I liked doing the dishes by hand! I immediately found it to be calming and I felt
that I had more time, not less, I always had very dish, pot, pan, utensil, bowl, cup and glass available whenever I wanted to use them. No more having to stop and hand wash something that was in the DW waiting for a full load to start it.

I know most members here think Iím crazy and would never entertain the thought of a home without a DW. I still use my DW in a way. I store the dish rack and drainboard on the lower rack along with the coffee can compost holders and on the top rack I store the dish-mats for putting glassware on to dry if I need to wash a lot a time. I also think the kitchen is easier to keep clean too, with a sink of hot soapy water to use with a dishcloth to wipe off all the counters and the stove top. Much quicker than getting out a spray bottle of cleaner and using a sponge, at least for me it is.

I donít see myself ever using the DW again. Different strokes for different folks I guess. So Laundress you make me feel not alone in my aberrant behavior, LOL.


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Post# 1147150 , Reply# 21   4/22/2022 at 10:35 (733 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT)        
With me, personally I would get a modern dishwasher

Iím honestly not really a fan of washing dishes by hand, and I would much rather use a dishwasher, vintage washes and vintage dryers or something I would happily use, I just even washed my dressing gown in some vintage soap powder that wouldíve came with the washer when it was new, iíd much rather be putting things through a wringer, compare to toiling over a hot kitchen sink, Kind of the same with vacuums as well Iíd much rather have something older because knowing the chaos of using a counterfeit bag in the vacuum leading dust dirt and sand getting sucked into the motor, itís just easier to shake out a cloth bag 26 times a year compared to trying to mangling the clip That the disposable bag is attached to so that the lid would close Plus theyíre just so much quieter and I donít mind the smell of Vacuum either

Post# 1147154 , Reply# 22   4/22/2022 at 10:58 (733 days old) by rinso (Meridian Idaho)        

I would love to be able to afford an induction range. My other appliances are all up-to-date current models.

Post# 1147157 , Reply# 23   4/22/2022 at 11:53 (733 days old) by 48bencix (Sacramento CA)        
Washing Machine

Washing Machine because I can do dishes by hand. Also can dry on the line. Our friends built a new house in Martinez in 1953 and had the slide out built in Westinghouse dishwasher. I helped my Mom get a Montgomery Ward dishwasher in 1960. So we used that daily. My Mom got her Bendix in 1944 and so had an automatic washer for our family. I got my first washer in Berkeley in 1967, 1949 Maytag AMP, and my first dishwasher in 1970, a portable, top loading Whirlpool. I had to let the AMP go but got my next washer and dryer, Kenmore used, in 1971 and lugged the dishwasher and washer and dryer to at least 7 different flats and apartments in San Francisco. Most flats and apartments had the hookups. So dishwashers and washers and dryers have been important to me.

With the modern dishwashers which take 3 hours, I load after dinner and clean the kitchen. I run it in the morning, taking advantage of cheaper electricity. Then when done I unload and put everything away.

Post# 1147158 , Reply# 24   4/22/2022 at 12:05 (733 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
Define "Modern"

If I can go to the 80s or 90s for the rest, I'd probably go to a moder dryer.

In the EU, a modern dryer uses less than half the energy and is way gentler - it's heat pump.
80s early 90s washers and dishwasher can be pretty decently efficient.
Not quite the same as today's efficiency, but not terribly Bad.
And DWs could be had pretty quiet aswell!

If we go back to the 60s that gets a lot harder.
I'd probably get a modern dishwasher. Just because they are so quiet.

If the question is anything fully automatic the one I'd definitely get would be a washer.
Washing dishes is done in 15min, hanging clothes is fine.
But washing the number of items by hand that I have... Yeah no - there's a reason the washer was the first big automatic thing for appliances.

Everything afterwards was just icing.

Post# 1147160 , Reply# 25   4/22/2022 at 12:16 (733 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        

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I believe the term ďModern ApplianceĒ is a general term referring to the the concept of these appliances as part of our accepted way of life from the 20th century on. Not to be confused with these appliances as they are known today.

For instance, when washing machines, dryers and dishwashers were first introduced they were ďmodernĒ. Today they are common place for most people.

So the question in the OP is really, which of these three modern conveniences could you personally not do without given the choice between the three.


Post# 1147161 , Reply# 26   4/22/2022 at 12:21 (733 days old) by iej (.... )        

Vacuum cleaners arenít major appliances, but I could more or less live without one if I had to, especially in a house with hardwood floors. You can sweep and wet mop most surfaces and other surfaces can be dusted.

Itís also worth remembering that wall to wall carpets probably came about because of vacuum cleaners, rather than the other way around. They would have been very difficult to maintain otherwise, and most pre electric era homes didnít have them. Theyíre very much a post 1920s/30s thing.

Theyíve gone back out of fashion again, but all through the mid 20th century they were extremely popular in this part of the world anyway.

Post# 1147162 , Reply# 27   4/22/2022 at 12:39 (733 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        

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Really, when you think about it a washing machine would have to be the one of the three that changed the life of the American housewife the most! I know many are simply horrified at the prospect of thrusting their hands into a sink of hot water to wash dishes.

But compare washing dishes to washing ALL your laundry by hand! Think about having to scrub sheets, towels, blankets and heavy coats and jeans on a washboard, then rinsing them, having to lift these heavy, water laden items out of the water and then wringing the water out by hand. Oh hell no!

There is absolutely NO comparison between the intensive labor required to wash laundry by hand as opposed to hanging wet laundry on a clothes line or washing dishes in a sink. Just sayiní. Thatís why Monday used to be known as laundry day, because it took the whole damn day to do it!


Post# 1147199 , Reply# 28   4/22/2022 at 22:05 (732 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        

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No less than the Vatican among others claim automatic washing machines are the best thing to happen for women and girls.

Remember watching British television series "1900 House" where a modern family goes back to live in Edwardian times. Families all over UK were fighting to be chosen, and the Bolwers were over moon when they made cut.

Within few days of living in that Edwardian home Mrs. Bowler was mean tempered and reduced to sitting and weeping most of day. She just never imagined how difficult life was for an housewife then including things like laundry.

Personally found all her moaning rather odd. Fully automatic washing machines did not become wide spread in UK until well after WWII. So it was either something like Hoover TT, going to wash house or doing things by hand for good number of households. Mrs. Bolwer surely had a mother, grandmother or older female family members who could (or should) have warned her about what was to come.

Post# 1147212 , Reply# 29   4/23/2022 at 06:30 (732 days old) by iej (.... )        

I think people have lost all sense of perspective on that era, other than seeing it through pretty sepia photographs, all of which were showing the best of it. It's far enough out of the collective memory that it's forgotten.

If you consider that when KFC in England ran out of chicken, due to a glitch in their delivery system a couple of years ago, people actually called 999 to report it to the police. Things have moved a long away from tolerance of Edwardian drudgery, although a lot of labour abuses are now just hidden, out of sight / out of mind somewhere far away, but that's another thread entirely.

Life was very rough in Edwardian times both at home and at work, unless you were a member of at least the upper end of the middle classes, in which case you probably just paid someone else (probably a pittance) to do it for you.

In terms of home life the big changes in the US probably happened earlier than in Europe simply because of WWII. The kinds of dramatic changes you saw in the US in the late 40s and 50s happened a decade or so later in Western Europe, probably in the late 50s and into the 60s, particularly things like the widespread adoption of appliances - although there were always outliers. I know my own late grandparents (born in the 1920s) were definitely early adopters of washing machines and whatever else came along.

A combination of rising disposable income, mass manufacturing and modern technology being available at a reasonable price changed everything and there were also enormous social changes both driven by those technologies and that were driving their adoption too. There were a confluence of factors going on as societies modernised in the 20th century.

The other point I would make is that people tend to idolise early and mid century appliances in terms of their extremely high build quality and lovely materials. They were wonderfully made machines in a lot of cases, but they were never the machines that most of the population could afford. The second half of the 20th century and today's tech centric, but often cheap and cheerful mass manufactured machines might not be quite the masterpieces of quality and craftsmanship their ancestors were, but they also are highly affordable which has made them ubiquitous. The reality of it in the early days of those technologies is that only a privileged % of the population could afford to be early adopters. In a UK context, the first automatic washing machines cost almost as much as a small car, which is why they were such a rarity. Just think of a market where the base, entry level price was similar to small commercial Miele and you could see why most households took a while.

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Post# 1147264 , Reply# 30   4/23/2022 at 22:21 (731 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
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It kinda depends honestly. If I lived somewhere and had a laundromat nearby, then I would choose to have a dishwasher. If I lived somewhere with no laundromat nearby, then I would choose to have a washing machine. And if I lived somewhere that had a HUGE sink to easily wash clothes and dishes off completely clean, then I would choose to have a dryer. But if I overall had to choose only one appliance no matter where I would live at, then I would certainly go for a washer. I could have a high pressure flow faucet and strong detergent to easily clean dishes to where I wouldn't need a dishwasher but it is always nice to have. And I could hang my laundry up to dry like what my grandparents in Utah used to do. I had a neighbor of ours who owned a log cabin and a ranch up in the mountains, but they didn't had any of the three appliances and with no laundromat nearby. At least the last time I was there which would've been almost 11 years ago so I'm not sure if they since added any or not until the time of their passing. And I have a friend of ours that also owns a log cabin up in the mountains and they have a stackable top load washer and dryer but no dishwasher. Makes me wonder now if they ever regretted not putting one in when they first built the place. Thank goodness though that we have stackable washers and dryers. If my grandfather up in Montana only had a washer up at his log cabin instead of his stackable set, he would've had a harder time drying off his clothes cause his place is one of the coldest areas in the country. Especially with his age and health declining.

Post# 1147273 , Reply# 31   4/24/2022 at 04:32 (731 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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I'd have to choose a washing machine.  As much as I love having a DW (since I was 3 years old) I can't do laundry by hand.

Post# 1147277 , Reply# 32   4/24/2022 at 07:25 (731 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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For me it would definitely be the washing machine. I have a covered balcony where I can hang laundry and otherwise a drying rack in the bathroom would work, it's big enough.

If I wouldn't have a dishwasher, I would do less cooking I suppose, take more short cuts. And I would think twice about baking a cake that causes a mess.

But doing laundry by hand would be the worst. I have a separate spin dryer that would come in handy, but it still would be a lot of work compared to the other household tasks.

Post# 1147336 , Reply# 33   4/25/2022 at 00:03 (730 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

For me-the washer.Don't think its practical to do clothes manually.I can do my dishes manually-since I don't use too many at a time.

Post# 1147365 , Reply# 34   4/25/2022 at 12:41 (730 days old) by Mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas)        

Iíd have a washer.
I wash a lot of dishes by hand, itís just myself here at the house, unless Iím doing a lot of cooking or not feeling well.

Post# 1147440 , Reply# 35   4/26/2022 at 15:20 (728 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
A central Vac system

I have one, but it's great! No bags, less dust in the house because what gets past the filter all gets exhausted outside. I empry it and clean the filter witha dry brush twice per year.
Otherwise a Miele S8 unique.

Post# 1147457 , Reply# 36   4/26/2022 at 18:51 (728 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        
I've already made the choice...

I don't own a dryer or dishwasher. (Though I have spare parts ones in the shed for fixing other people's appliances.)


I have a Miele washing machine in the house and will in future set up working "collection" washing machines in the new shed. We don't need a dryer here and I'm not interested in dishwashers. I'd have to sacrifice a cupboard or two pot drawers to install a dishwasher, a compromise I'm not prepared to accept.

My partner often washes the dishes, or starts them and I finish them.

Post# 1147459 , Reply# 37   4/26/2022 at 19:22 (728 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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I canít stand washing dishes by hand so the dishwasher seeing as how mine holds a lot of kitchenware dependably doing a great jobÖ

So what if either of my laundry equipment, washer or dryer or BOTH fail in the middle of a load, I go out and replace with another GE or Whirlpool from days of oldÖ

Iíll cook with a coil-top electric range just to get self-cleaning more likely than on a gas stove or get a gas range that I hope is as reliable as any newÖ

As for the fridgeóIím dieting in the face of rising food prices and I have all that ice cream I take a few spoonfuls of then wondering how Iíll finish or why I bought, so if anything thatís a fridge/freezer combo not too far from when they made ice and not kept cool with a block of ice, our homeowners
Insurance covers us for the loss and I put a box of remnants of spoiled food out on the lawn which my ten-year-old Whirlpool ice and water dispensing side by side could one day becomeÖ


ó Dave

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