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Post# 1147957   5/3/2022 at 20:41 (709 days old) by ryner1988 (Indianapolis)        

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I was curious to know if anyone has experience with this Samsung front loading washer. Model number is WF45T6000AW. It's what I'm thinking about purchasing if my current 1980's Maytag dies, because the specs say it has braille included on the control panel and audio feedback, specifically designed for blind people. This would be perfect for me, but the accessibility features aren't enough on their own if the washer itself isn't very good. Anyone ever used this machine or at least can attest that the accessibility features are indeed included? I've included the link to the washer below for more information.

Ryne

www.lowes.com/pd/Samsung-...





Post# 1147958 , Reply# 1   5/3/2022 at 20:46 (709 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Ryne, the slogan is friends don't let friends buy Samsung appliances. Bob

Post# 1147961 , Reply# 2   5/3/2022 at 21:16 (709 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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You are better off getting a wringer washer. Those have issues with the drum spiders corroding in a short amount of time and when the spider breaks, might as well junk the machine since itíll cost more to repair than to replace.

Post# 1147964 , Reply# 3   5/3/2022 at 21:31 (709 days old) by ryner1988 (Indianapolis)        
I was kinda afraid of that reaction...

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Blah, that's sort of what I figured would be said, because the sentament around the web is much the same. I was just excited because accessibility features were incorporated into the control panel in a sort of budget appliance.

I am just trying to prepare because while my Maytag works fine, it has an issue I've started to notice where it's laggy at the start of agitation and also has a bit of a rattling? scraping? sound during the drain. I am no fool and know this means trouble down the line. That ancient washer was only supposed to be a filler anyway so I'm not too worried about it. I'm just not sure what is available in the modern market that can be easily operated non-visually (open to suggestions), so I hope the Maytag chugs along for a while yet while I figure it out


Post# 1147965 , Reply# 4   5/3/2022 at 22:21 (709 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Ryne, I saw a woman's Youtube video. She's totally blind and got LG to work with her developing further their app that owuld allow her to operate her new front loader.

Post# 1147966 , Reply# 5   5/3/2022 at 22:28 (709 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        
Just a minute now...

Hi Ryne

I wouldn't be quite so negative about the Samsung. The braille control markings and audio feedback may make this machine more of interest to you than the "average" user. I'm not sure if those features are available on other brands, or unique to Samsung?

My sister had a Samsung front loader for maybe 10 years? She was generally happy with it. I'm in Australia, so hers was an Australian-market model, not the same model you have linked. Hers was made in China, or maybe Korea, I can't remember for sure. I think China. Hers needed a rubber door boot replaced once, and motor brushes replaced once. I did both repairs, the machine was easy to work on and parts not expensive. Hers did eventually die with a failed drum spider, but she got about 10 years use before that happened, and it wasn't an expensive washer.

 

Drum spider failures and the causes of them are a point of argument, some machines do seem more prone than others, but it is also up to the user. Using a good detergent, correct dose (under- and over-dosing are both blamed for spider corrosion), setting the machine for maximum rinses (4 or 5) and regularly doing hot washes or regularly doing "drum-clean" cycles should all help to extend the life of the drum spider. Ask if there is a particular warranty for the drum - some brands have a long warranty on the drum, not sure about Samsung. Or an extended warranty might be worth buying?

 

Personally I think LG washers are better than Samsung. I don't know if LG have the braille markings you would like? My sister bought her Samsung new, when it finally died, I gave her an LG that was newer, but one I had salvaged and repaired. She is happier with the LG - quieter, less vibration mainly. The LG is direct drive - the motor is built into the back of the drum, more efficient than the Samsung belt drive motor.

 

The Lowes page you linked to has some errors about the Samsung - it says NO ATC (Automatic Temperature Control) and NO heater, but the user manual linked says it does have ATC and has a low-power heater - about 1000 watts.


Post# 1147968 , Reply# 6   5/3/2022 at 23:51 (709 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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If I were to be blind or near blind, Iíd have special braille stickers to put on the cycle selector buttons to make it easier for me to identify which cycle is which and I remember John Lefever mentioning somewhere in the archives where you could do that with the Whirlpool and Lady Kenmore push button timers with the lock pin set up.

Post# 1147973 , Reply# 7   5/4/2022 at 06:44 (709 days old) by RE563 (Fort Worth, Texas)        
I do have to say.........

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I got that Samsung model a year ago and I couldn't be happier with it. So far, no issues and I think it rinses better and spins better than the LG I had.

Post# 1147975 , Reply# 8   5/4/2022 at 08:18 (709 days old) by ryner1988 (Indianapolis)        

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@RE563, does the machine indeed have braille on it from what you can tell? Also, Samsung says there is audio feedback to distinguish cycle selections from one another. I assume they mean different tones for spin, rinse, and soil level among other things, but if you could elaborate further, that would be great.

Post# 1147976 , Reply# 9   5/4/2022 at 08:38 (709 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI)        

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All the new Samsung front loaders I've seen have braille. I suggest you pay a little more and get one that has a built in heater. Ones with a heater are going to clean better and give you nice hot washes which will keep the washer cleaner in the long run.

Post# 1147977 , Reply# 10   5/4/2022 at 09:20 (709 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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Other brands/models may offer adhesive braille overlays.† Perhaps check with the manufacturer's customer service for models of interest.


Post# 1147978 , Reply# 11   5/4/2022 at 09:22 (709 days old) by ryner1988 (Indianapolis)        

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I don't wash in hot very often anyway, but thank you for the recommendation--I will definitely keep that in mind.

This is all academic anyway, as the washer I currently have still works. I just don't want to be up a creek when it does eventually die, as I don't know anyone around here who could work on a washer that old and I certainly can't do it myself.

I know that the base model Whirlpool brand machines, like the current offering from Amana, are all turn knobs and very accessible, but that horrible whomp...whomp...whomp! sound of those machines agitating...I can't stand it! If I had a laundry room that was far away, I could deal, but it's right in the hallway behind closet doors feet from the rest of my apartment. I don't know how anyone can stand the sound of that inverter motor operating on those basic machines. It's one of the first things I noticed when my 2016 Whirlpool died and we were given the old Maytag--the difference in sound level was astounding. So that's why I'm not looking at that type of machine even though it is accessible, I need something quieter than that!


Post# 1147993 , Reply# 12   5/4/2022 at 18:40 (709 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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There have been many discussions on here over the years regarding spider failures and what causes them. One thing I've noticed with all the videos I've seen over the years when they take them apart is that the outer drug is pretty disgusting..I don't think I've seen one spider failure video where that wasn't the case...which means the user had some bad laundry habits...I think that is the main culprit along with possible iffy water conditions too? Not sure about that. I have a duet that's 17 years old. Over the years I've seen videos where the spider failed on it..but mine has been fine...As for Samsung...I don't know what to say about that...I do like LG better..but that's not saying you wouldn't be happy with the samsung.

Post# 1147996 , Reply# 13   5/4/2022 at 20:01 (708 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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Post# 1148003 , Reply# 14   5/4/2022 at 21:05 (708 days old) by RE563 (Fort Worth, Texas)        

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@ryner1988:

There is braille on the machine for power and start. But that's it. On this model there is no tone difference when changing cycles.

I will tell you that as far as temps go, yes on Normal and Heavy Duty, the temps are dumbed down. As the manual says, Hot is the temp of an adult shower and Warm is the temp of a refreshing pool water but not cold. When I use Permanent Press or Whites, I get true warm and hot water.

The best thing I love about this washer, is that every final spin, regardless of cycle selected, you get a spin-spray rinse!! On Permanent Press you get a spin-spray rinse in very spin. On Whites, you get a spin-spray rinse before the final rinse and the final spin. I have not used the Heavy Duty cycle yet.


Post# 1148020 , Reply# 15   5/5/2022 at 03:25 (708 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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I just read this about Miele

coolblindtech.com/miele-launches...


Post# 1148025 , Reply# 16   5/5/2022 at 07:05 (708 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
it wouldn't be so bad

If they were built like speed queen. But, they're not.

Post# 1148091 , Reply# 17   5/5/2022 at 20:04 (707 days old) by Dustin92 (Jackson, MI)        

We owned a Samsung dryer for a few years, and if it's any indication, Run, don't walk. Had several issues with it and it never really dried "great"

Post# 1148112 , Reply# 18   5/6/2022 at 06:37 (707 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
normal cycle

I bet the normal cycle left clothes damp. What was Samsung thinking?

Post# 1148122 , Reply# 19   5/6/2022 at 12:06 (707 days old) by RE563 (Fort Worth, Texas)        
GElaundry4ever

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Yes the normal cycle does leave clothes damp--from spinning out so well. The water level rises through out the cycle

Post# 1148159 , Reply# 20   5/6/2022 at 20:53 (706 days old) by ryner1988 (Indianapolis)        
RE563

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Which cycles do you use on it most often? From what it looks, I would probably use normal, heavy duty, and bulky the most, unless this is one of those washers where normal is horrible and permanent press actually works better.

Post# 1148164 , Reply# 21   5/6/2022 at 21:51 (706 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
on my washer...

I use mainly the normal cycle. It is a front load Kenmore Elite by LG with the accelerate wash..

Post# 1148200 , Reply# 22   5/7/2022 at 10:34 (706 days old) by RE563 (Fort Worth, Texas)        
ryner1988

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I use normal, permanent press, whites, and delicates. The best feature (at least for me) is that after every 40 cycles, it tells you it's time to run the tub clean cycle.

Post# 1148223 , Reply# 23   5/7/2022 at 16:56 (706 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Cleaning automatic washers

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No washing machine new or old should ever need a clean cycle, if a machine that is supposed to be cleaning your laundry is getting dirty your laundry is not clean.

Out of the hundreds of machines Iíve used in my lifetime I have never cleaned one and never gotten any kind of buildup in them.

I rebuilt my 71 lady Kenmore in 1978 I just completed re-building the thing I didnít even have to wipe out the outer tub or anything thereís nothing in it.

Iíve had my Speed Queen frontload for 15 years now still smells like new inside have not even wiped off the door boot or the door window even.

If you use your washer properly there should never be a reason to clean it itís just a waste of energy and chemicals trying to clean up a mess from using the machine improperly.

Same thing goes for a dishwasher Iíve had my two whirlpool dishwashers in the kitchen for 33 years never even thought about cleaning either one of them they look like new inside, if the glassware etc. and silverware is coming out sparkling thereís no buildup in the machine.

John L


Post# 1148225 , Reply# 24   5/7/2022 at 17:06 (706 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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Yeahbut much of the rest of the world is chronic with bad usage habits, exacerbated by the marketing push for ice-cold temperatures and fear of the slightest hint of sudsing.


Post# 1148260 , Reply# 25   5/7/2022 at 23:46 (705 days old) by RE563 (Fort Worth, Texas)        
You are correct DADoES

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Not to mention, one must take into account of water hardness in their area. Here in Texas the water is hard. Mineral deposits form quickly on everything, so I do let my washer run the "clean cycle" with some borax in the machine. This helps here with the mineral deposits and keeps it looking new.


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