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Post# 1149103   5/19/2022 at 21:19 (693 days old) by IIIJohnnyMacIII (North Carolina)        

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So, I had to cancel my Miele order that I made in February as the shipping date kept getting pushed back. Instead I went with a Kitchenaid KDFE204kps. Iíve attached some pictures. These manual filter machines look to be redesigned since the last manual filter machines. Iíve just used Cascade powder (2 tablespoons in main wash and 1 tablespoon in the pre wash) and Finish Jet Dry. I set it to normal with sani-rinse to help keep the filter clean and thus far everything has come out spotless. The programming seems superb. I counted 3 prewashes before it got to the main wash, eliminating the chance of anything getting stained by red sauce during the long main wash. I was a little worried about the 3rd rack for silverware, because the spray arm is smaller than the Mieleís spray arm, but thus far even old peanut butter has been cleaned completely off. I donít use the basket. I use that space for large bowls or pots and pans. Iíve only had it for two weeks, but Iím very satisfied thus far.

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Post# 1149107 , Reply# 1   5/19/2022 at 22:46 (693 days old) by Egress (Oregon)        

this must be the filter counterpart to the KDTM/Microfiltration models. very cool!

Post# 1149111 , Reply# 2   5/19/2022 at 23:45 (693 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Congratulations!!! This is the quietest KitchenAid at 39dB.

Post# 1149112 , Reply# 3   5/19/2022 at 23:54 (693 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI)        

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Congratulations, it's a beautiful dishwasher! Would you please show us what the filter looks like?

Post# 1149116 , Reply# 4   5/20/2022 at 05:15 (693 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
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I think pic 3 is the filter isn't it ?

Post# 1149122 , Reply# 5   5/20/2022 at 07:02 (693 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
i have this model pretty good in ter of cleaning power

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i have this model and its pretty good in term of cleaning and you will not even notice when its on doing a cycle

Post# 1149132 , Reply# 6   5/20/2022 at 09:30 (693 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
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Congrats I like the ones with front control!

Post# 1149155 , Reply# 7   5/20/2022 at 18:39 (693 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI)        
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Yes, it's the top of the filter. I have a WP with a filter and it looks different. That's why I'd like to see the entire thing.

Post# 1149166 , Reply# 8   5/20/2022 at 20:20 (692 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
IIIJohnnyMacIII my kitchenaid dishwasher on

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small vid of my kitchenaid dishwasher on

cycle tough options high temp wash sani rinse extended heat dry




Post# 1149174 , Reply# 9   5/20/2022 at 22:26 (692 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

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Very nice! Whirlpool has a very solid platform in this new generation of dishwashers. About a year ago I parted out a Whirlpool 750 model that is similar in build to your machine. It was a beyond repair damage in shipping that I got for 90% off. The door was crushed in at the corner, but the racks, arms, pump system were all in perfect shape. Seeing as how just racks can run $200 and higher, I figured $75 was more than worth having replacement parts that would fit my KitchenAid 604, and I get the added fun of being able to swap the wash arms if I ever want to change it up. I actually really like the Whirlpool's arm design, with the flatter profile and the angular shaping along the center. There's a sort of Z zigzag that seems like an unintentional callback to the Thunderbolt arm of the PowerClean and Voyager era.

I'll post the pictures I took during the process. It looks like you have the nicer motor in yours than the magnet pump that's in the WP.


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Post# 1149175 , Reply# 10   5/20/2022 at 22:28 (692 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

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Post# 1149176 , Reply# 11   5/20/2022 at 22:30 (692 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

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Post# 1149201 , Reply# 12   5/21/2022 at 12:03 (692 days old) by IIIJohnnyMacIII (North Carolina)        
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Here are some pictures of the kitchenaid filter.

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Post# 1149203 , Reply# 13   5/21/2022 at 12:44 (692 days old) by IIIJohnnyMacIII (North Carolina)        

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Andrew, congrats! You got an amazing deal on you parts machine. I agree this platform looks to be much more solid than the last one. Interesting that they put a different motor in the Kitchenaid on this platform. In the global wash machines didn't the Whirlpools use the same motors as the Kitchenaids?

Peter, yes I love the front control machines! It gives me a little bit of the old-school feel.

Thanks Bob. This machine would be perfect for someone with an open concept house.

Pierre, thanks for the video! Going to have to watch it tonight.


Post# 1149206 , Reply# 14   5/21/2022 at 12:56 (692 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI)        
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Thanks for the pics! That filter is such different than mine as you can see...

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Post# 1149212 , Reply# 15   5/21/2022 at 13:21 (692 days old) by IIIJohnnyMacIII (North Carolina)        
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That looks like a Global Wash System filter. Is your filter placement offset to the right of the machine?

Post# 1149242 , Reply# 16   5/21/2022 at 19:30 (692 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI)        
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Yes, it is offset. And I believe it's the global wash system. It's 2 years old, model WDT730PAHZ. Build quality is alright but it washes fabulously.

Post# 1149243 , Reply# 17   5/21/2022 at 19:36 (692 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
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I forgot to mention that like vintage dishwashers when it start as you will see or hear in the video it do a purge to remove excess water located in the filter

Post# 1149246 , Reply# 18   5/21/2022 at 19:54 (692 days old) by Jerrod_Six (Eastern Pennsylvania, USA)        

How does this DW sound when it is spraying the water across the dishes?

Post# 1149351 , Reply# 19   5/23/2022 at 09:34 (690 days old) by IIIJohnnyMacIII (North Carolina)        

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Iíll try to capture the sound and post on YouTube. Then Iíll post the link.

Post# 1149387 , Reply# 20   5/23/2022 at 18:58 (690 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
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I too am interested in what the dishwasher sounds like.

Post# 1150491 , Reply# 21   6/7/2022 at 14:35 (675 days old) by IIIJohnnyMacIII (North Carolina)        

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For those that wanted to hear the Kitchenaid, I was able to make a short video of how the KDFE204 sounds. I peeled back the insulation and positioned my phone on the left side of the machine. Here is the link: vimeo.com/user177825217...

Post# 1150496 , Reply# 22   6/7/2022 at 16:40 (675 days old) by Jerrod_Six (Eastern Pennsylvania, USA)        

Wow! That's quiet even without the insulation. Thanks a lot for sharing this.

Post# 1150526 , Reply# 23   6/7/2022 at 22:27 (674 days old) by IIIJohnnyMacIII (North Carolina)        

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No problem. Glad I was finally able to get around to doing it. Yes these motors are quiet. The only thing you can hear from the front of the machine is some spray, but you need to be within a couple feet of it to hear it and even then it is faint (at least with these ears). During the drain you have to be within a 4 feet or so to hear the motor. The loudest part about this machine is the water draining into my disposal. This would be a great machine for someone with an open concept house.

Post# 1150619 , Reply# 24   6/9/2022 at 01:31 (673 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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John, sounds just like it should!!!


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