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Thread Number: 90533
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Miele Dynamic Rinsing? |
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Post# 1150588 6/8/2022 at 18:07 (1,021 days old) by littlegreeny  (Milwaukee, WI) |
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Post# 1150622 , Reply# 1 6/9/2022 at 02:20 (1,020 days old) by Logixx (Germany) |
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There always used to be a video by Miele on YouTube but it seems to be deleted.
Basically, the sensor rinse works on hot wash cycles where there is a large enough temp difference between the wash and the first rinse. The washer will keep rinsing (in the 1st rinse), until the water temperature sensor no longer detects an increase in water temp, meaning that the cold rinse water has been fully mixed with the hot, soapy water left in the laundry from the wash. Once the temp has stopped rising, the washer knows that fresh and soapy water have been mixed as much as possible and draining starts. That's how the video described it. No turbidity sensor involved. | ||
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Post# 1150624 , Reply# 2 6/9/2022 at 04:32 (1,020 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Post# 1150641 , Reply# 3 6/9/2022 at 09:24 (1,020 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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Error message: FOAM
How does the machine detect too much foam without a sensor? My "more is better" husband has overdosed a couple of times and the window was all white with foam and an error on the display. It's been a while so I don't remember what we did to resolve. I most likely kept running Quick Rinse until all the suds were gone. | ||
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Post# 1150655 , Reply# 4 6/9/2022 at 12:21 (1,020 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Suds locks If the machine had to add a rinse, it displays the overdose message. That usually means there was a suds lock in the second interim spin and it was aborted. | ||
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Post# 1150668 , Reply# 5 6/9/2022 at 13:06 (1,020 days old) by Logixx (Germany) |
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How does the machine detect foam without a sensor?
Via the pressure sensor.
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Post# 1150669 , Reply# 6 6/9/2022 at 13:15 (1,020 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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At least the Novotronic series could sense extreme suds buildups during washing and heating aswell (not sure though how that reflects on the readings). It could cancel further heating and immediately shift to a lower agitation profile. Would happen very rarely but was a possibility. | ||
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Post# 1150830 , Reply# 7 6/11/2022 at 00:16 (1,019 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI) |
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Post# 1150836 , Reply# 8 6/11/2022 at 01:29 (1,018 days old) by Logixx (Germany) |
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Post# 1150879 , Reply# 9 6/11/2022 at 17:37 (1,018 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Miele always tried to not add sensors for improved results. So they never had them on washers. Basically everybody else had them at some point or currently has them. | ||
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Post# 1150897 , Reply# 10 6/12/2022 at 02:47 (1,017 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany) |
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Never understood the point of turbidity sensors in clothes washers.
I think as long as powdered detergents heavy on insoluble zeolite content exist they don`t make much sense. The sensor could misread just the detergent alone as "heavy soil" whereas other detergents could lead to insufficient washing or rinsing. Too many variables for my liking. | ||
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Post# 1150904 , Reply# 13 6/12/2022 at 06:10 (1,017 days old) by Logixx (Germany) |
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My flatmates | ||
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Post# 1150915 , Reply# 15 6/12/2022 at 11:25 (1,017 days old) by Logixx (Germany) |
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My grandma's Miele from the early 90s would refer to the stepped cool-down as Shuttle Rinse. The manual for the model she bought afterwards (early 2000s) mentioned that the machine would default to a max load setting, if the door was opened more than a few minutes after the cycle had begun (after load sensing).
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Post# 1150931 , Reply# 16 6/12/2022 at 14:57 (1,017 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI) |
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WXR860 Rinses | ||
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Post# 1150960 , Reply# 18 6/12/2022 at 23:42 (1,017 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI) |
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One of these times I'll turn off the maximum rinse level and run the table linen program so I can see what you're talking about with the rinse.
In addition to the max rinse level, I also turned on the allergy setting so I get 3-4 rinses on every cycle. Normal cycle defaults to 3 rinses and the table linen is 4 rinses. | ||
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