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Thread Number: 91022
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Finally bought my new washer |
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| Post# 1155355 , Reply# 1 7/27/2022 at 20:33 (423 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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Post# 1155356 , Reply# 2 7/27/2022 at 20:58 (423 days old) by ryner1988  (Indianapolis) |
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The model came out in 2001 but my particular machine was manufactured in 2004, according to the serial number. Not sure if that helps in determining whether or not it's the unscrew type knob. | ||
| Post# 1155357 , Reply# 3 7/27/2022 at 21:18 (423 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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Post# 1155359 , Reply# 4 7/27/2022 at 21:52 (423 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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Post# 1155434 , Reply# 6 7/28/2022 at 22:30 (422 days old) by qsd-dan (West) |
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I warned you about the small capacity tub when you got the Maytag washer. This is why I don't recommend them this day and age, they're very small by todays standards. They will wash and rinse just fine but you'll be forced into more laundry therapy whether you like it or not.
It's no surprise about the DD's failing drain kit as it's one of weakest points and the major killer of these machines. It's also a fairly big job to replace and financially cuts deeply into profits if it's done correctly and filled with new oil. It's a shame that they didn't engineer a better design or an externally easy to access design like the wig/wag setup on their BD machines. Be aware that mechanical timers from this era are not reliable and they're NLA. Also note that you'll be greatly reducing the life of the clutch pack with the machine going directly into spin. There's also no out of balance switch on these machines either so it will beat itself to death like a GE Filter Flo. The suspension is designed for a neutral drain, not a spin drain, so expect it to go out of balance often if not loaded very carefully. On top of THAT, there's no clothes guard like the short lived spin draining DD machines so be carful about overloading and having items going over the top of the inner tub and getting stuck between the tubs during a spin drain. Beside all of that, enjoy your new toy :) | ||
| Post# 1155442 , Reply# 7 7/28/2022 at 23:06 (422 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
That’s what I like about the belt drives, there’s no neutral drain pack that can fail causing it to slip into spin. Direct drives may be simpler than the belt drives but for what I can imagine don’t rinse as well since the older belt drives did at least 3 to 4 spray rinses on the first spin and another 3 to 4 rinses on the final spin. Only downside to them from my experience is they will suds lock easily with high sudsing detergent or if you use too much detergent but other than that, that’s the only quirk about them for what I’ve noticed.
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Post# 1155445 , Reply# 8 7/28/2022 at 23:30 (422 days old) by qsd-dan (West) |
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Honestly, I don't think DD's are a simpler design. They're simpler to repair minus the transmission. The transmission in the BD's are crazy simple inside. Hell, there's less moving parts in there than a pitman Maytag. Sure, the wig wags die, the wires break, sometimes the linkage goes haywire, but that's all easy to access and repair.
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| Post# 1155447 , Reply# 9 7/28/2022 at 23:43 (422 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
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I always thought the belt drive design was complicated but once you figure out how it works, it’s very simple. There’s only a total of 7 to 9 parts inside the old belt drive transmissions and I can confirm since I’ve taken 2 apart so far. Crazy as this sounds, the belt drives in some ways were built just as well and maybe a little better than a Maytag but the Achilles heel were the bearings and the outer tub since the bearings had a tendency to go out after heavy use the the outer tubs tended to rust out as well. I think if Whirlpool simply used ball or roller type bearings and used a thicker gauge of metal along with several layers of porcelain enamel on the outer tub, many would still be around to this day but Whirlpool seemed to have to have not invested cash in those areas for some reason.
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| Post# 1155448 , Reply# 10 7/28/2022 at 23:56 (422 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
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Inside of a belt drive transmission, very few parts inside since there’s only a total of 7 parts inside the original transmission on my ‘63 Whirlpool.
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Post# 1155464 , Reply# 11 7/29/2022 at 07:17 (422 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1155487 , Reply# 12 7/29/2022 at 10:46 (422 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
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Yeah, the belt drives are a bit more complex than the direct drives however all the complexity is outside of the transmission and not inside of it. Since all those components are outside the transmission, they are easy to access and repair. Since I’ve taken my Whirlpool apart about a dozen plus times, it’s not that difficult to work on plus I have more experience with the belt drives than I do the newer direct drives.
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Post# 1155498 , Reply# 14 7/29/2022 at 12:50 (422 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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I’ve done one neutral drain repair. Maybe I’m cracked in the head but it wasn’t that big of a deal by my standards. More experience under the belt presumably makes it less of a deal. It can be done without draining & replacing the oil, although that is reasonable to do by the age at which neutral drain typically fails.
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Post# 1155499 , Reply# 15 7/29/2022 at 13:03 (422 days old) by ryner1988 (Indianapolis) |
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Oh I figured an experienced tech could do it. I'm just operating under the assumption that most won't. At least I know repairs on these washers are still done in most cases, unlike the old Maytag. That gives me a lot of peace of mind. | ||
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Post# 1155501 , Reply# 16 7/29/2022 at 14:25 (422 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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whirlpool direct drive design I'd like to take the time to appreciate the direct drive design whirlpool engineers came up with in clyde ohio. | ||
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