Thread Number: 91144  /  Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Hey guys, has anybody heard of the Samsung quick wash?
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Post# 1156485   8/10/2022 at 02:29 (623 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT)        

Hey guys, has anybody heard of the Samsung quick wash? In my opinion that design honestly looks like nothing new

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Post# 1156489 , Reply# 1   8/10/2022 at 03:38 (623 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

It really isn't anything new.
Pulsator designs are decades old. Dyson had the ContraRotator - though that used a gear box on top of the 2 motors.

This machine only uses 2 brushless motors.

I had a machine like this for a few months.

The machine - on cycles where QuickDrive actually did a lot - basically just heated to temp and then the wash cycle was over.
The QuickDrive plate only increased agitation to save time - which really only worked well on medium soil anyway.
It contrarotates to the tumble direction during wash, and slowly rotates during spin basically only as decoration.

A lot of time was saved with the SuperSpeed system - a spray rinse system not unlike LGs TurboWash.
You could get 3 rinses worth of rinse efficiency in the time it usually takes for 1 1/2 rinses round about - 3 spray rinses, 2 deep rinses with reduced rinse time.

In the US, on the US sized washers, there is no QuickDrive, only SuperSpeed.

Wasn't terribly impressed.
It does work and is quite smart about operation.

During load sensing it uses the wash plate to basically detect how much drag is on the wash plate.
That resulted in 3 or 4 load sizes sensed in the Cotton cycles IIRC.

A small load below 1/2 took the shortest time actually being quite short.
Half loads actually were fast as well - basically only taking a little longer to heat.

Everything above half loads took basically just as long as without QuickDrive - at high load volumes the drag on the wash plate dramatically reduces wash plate action since the laundry could get stuck around the wash plate leading to certain parts of the load getting over agitated, so it just doesn't use the wash plate much.
SuperSpeed is stil used but it still does 3 somewhat longer rinses.

So, it really only did much on partial loads.

But it doesn't really do much for stains - you need chemical action for those, which needs time.
You couldn't use the Intensive option on the Cottons cycle since that would take eternity triggering a low temp eco cycle.
Adding the bubble soak would give you a 30min soak during heating with temp maintained washing afterwards - getting you back to normal cycle times just with significantly increased energy usage.

Meaning it really only was useful for light to medium soil small ish loads.
And you payed 600€+ for even the entry line machine - I got it from an Amazon warehouse deal for half that.

It does work, it's quite a well designed machine, just that it wasn't much use in my usage profile.

Post# 1156493 , Reply# 2   8/10/2022 at 06:19 (623 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        

My Keymatic detector just went off....

Post# 1156495 , Reply# 3   8/10/2022 at 07:16 (623 days old) by Logixx (Germany)        

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Post# 1156503 , Reply# 4   8/10/2022 at 09:32 (623 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT)        

Now you’ve got me thinking, if I end up finding one that has a bad controller board but the motors are still good as well as most the other components, it makes me want to build a reengineered South Korean made Hoover Keymatic but without the keys…oh my god… I just had a thought imagine if someone had built an interfaceTo go from a hoover Keymatic to a machine like this?
It’s not like this is not possible, you’ve got people who have built a Arduino’s to connect a 1930s teletype into a Computer terminal

Post# 1156504 , Reply# 5   8/10/2022 at 09:38 (623 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        

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Although I understand the concept of this machine how does it actually wash better when most the time the back plate will just rub against the clothing?

At least with Keymatics the drum tilted when full allowing the impeller to agitate the water while the drum rotated in the opposite direction.

I cannot see how this Samsung machine does what its meant to....!

Post# 1156520 , Reply# 6   8/10/2022 at 13:26 (623 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

It's hard to see in pictures, but the backplate over all is maybe an inch deep into the drum.

One huge problem with machines like the CR01 from Dyson was that it could be incredibly rough on clothing.

That's why this only uses the backplate on partial loads and tempers the action by not being terribly efficient at interacting with the load.

Still, main washes are about 40-45min for a 40C/104F Cottons half load.

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