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New to me - Hotpoint drop in oven
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Post# 1157032   8/15/2022 at 16:53 by Capefolly (Chicago)        

Newbie here I just purchased this original 1973 home in cape cod and love the original drop in oven. Everything except the oven works. Any thoughts? I canít find a replacement thermostat for it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. It wouldnít be the same without it.

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Post# 1157035 , Reply# 1   8/15/2022 at 17:05 by turquoisedude (.)        

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Long shot, but if the clock and timer on the stove no longer work, try moving the 'hours to cook' dial to MAN.  The timer may 'think' it's engaged and waiting to start the oven at a specific time.  I can't tell you how many times I've had this happen with vintage stoves! 


Post# 1157036 , Reply# 2   8/15/2022 at 17:07 by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        

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I agree with Paul, that is very well why the oven isnít turning on and its an easy and free fix.

BTW, thats a very nice drop in stove. Good luck!

Eddie


Post# 1157042 , Reply# 3   8/15/2022 at 18:47 by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Nice Range.

Because Hotpoint and GE used the selector switch with the Timed Bake setting, the clock does not have a manual setting. What I think I notice is that the start and stop time dials are not in the same position. Try synchronizing them both to the same time. When they are set to the time showing on the clock, they should both pop out since they need to be pushed in to set them. The clock is probably not working so with the two dials set to different times, it is waiting for the clock to move into position to trigger the start time, which is not going to happen. Give this a try and report back. A mouse might have attacked a wire which could stop the clock, but it is an old clock so it might have retired itself. I believe that you might be able to make the oven work even if the clock is not working.

Post# 1157044 , Reply# 4   8/15/2022 at 19:06 by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        

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Good catch Tom! I noticed that the start and stop times were set different but I didnít realize that this stove didnít have a manual setting.

I should have realized this though since when we moved into our home 28 years ago the original stove was a 1980 Hotpoint Slide In stove that had a similar control panel. But since we replaced it soon after moving in I only used the timed bake setting once and forgot exactly how it worked.

I bet your good instructions will help get this oven back into action.

Eddie


Post# 1157046 , Reply# 5   8/15/2022 at 20:35 by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
1973 hot point self cleaning oven by GE

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This is a very good stove and may be a fairly easy fix but you may have to find a repair person with some gray hair, if it simply doesnít heat at all I would check for a bad oven sensor first, there is not a thermostat per se in this oven system.

The oven control system is made up of about six different parts and you need to find somebody who can figure out whatís causing the problem.

Heís ovens were generally not very troublesome and they baked beautifully but something does happen eventually.

John L


Post# 1157049 , Reply# 6   8/15/2022 at 22:07 by Capefolly (Chicago)        

Would the start and stop time matter if it was set to bake vs time bake?

Unfortunately the owner put red plastic drops to see the indicators better.


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Post# 1157050 , Reply# 7   8/15/2022 at 22:17 by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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No, the clock does not control the oven unless the selector knob is set on Clean or Timed Bake

 

John L.


Post# 1157063 , Reply# 8   8/16/2022 at 06:47 by Capefolly (Chicago)        

Would anyone know a replacement part number for a new sensor or temp control? The heating element tests fine.

Thanks


Post# 1157066 , Reply# 9   8/16/2022 at 07:36 by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        
Scott,

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That's a beautiful kitchen!  I hope you can find the help you need to bring the range back to complete life.  

 

lawrence


Post# 1157068 , Reply# 10   8/16/2022 at 09:00 by Capefolly (Chicago)        

I know it hasnít been abused at all. It needs gingham curtains

Post# 1157083 , Reply# 11   8/16/2022 at 13:00 by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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If the clock doesn't work, the rotor with the pinion that turns the gears could be frozen.  If you're handy and you can access the clock, you can find a replacement rotor on eBay, etc.  I don't think the smaller types of rotors GE/Telecrhon switched to in the late '60s (the "S1" type) can be revived like the older, larger ones ("H3" type). 

 

From what I've read here, the "Sensi-Temp" burner controls are no longer made.  You'll have to keep and eye out on eBay for one of those, too.


Post# 1157092 , Reply# 12   8/16/2022 at 13:54 by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        

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John, is this oven one of the ones where you remove the self clean system and turn it into a non-self-clean oven?  Will this owner from now on have to use Easy off?


Post# 1157097 , Reply# 13   8/16/2022 at 14:33 by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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Hi Ralph, on the stove the clock has nothing to do with normal oven operation.

The stove also does not have a sense a temp burner to worry about.

Hi Bob Frigidaires had such a complicated oven control system that Iíve sometimes converted those to regular systems Iíve never found that necessary on a GE hot point range this is not a hard to fix.

To the owner of this wonderful range test the sensor for resistance it shouldíve about 17 1/2 ohms, if it is open Iíll find the part number of the sensor for you.

I fixed a wonderful GE range of the same age for Keven of cavalcade of food last weekend here are some pictures of it it had a different problem the oven was heating but not heating properly it had a bad oven heating relay but itís the same system this Hotpoint uses.


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Post# 1157104 , Reply# 14   8/16/2022 at 15:51 by qsd-dan (West)        
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That's a far more complex design than I would have anticipated. Damn good looking range though, wow. Great job fixing Kevins range, John.

Post# 1157110 , Reply# 15   8/16/2022 at 18:35 by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Early P7 GE self cleaning ranges

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Thanks Dan, GE ranges are always fun to work on because the wiring itís not all bundled and itís easy to trace.

I shouldíve mentioned the picture is Anthony and his mother with Keven of course in the background.

Anthony is a very good guy to work with very technically able.

Kevens stove had an unusual problem it would heat up to 350 and never come back on and it turned out to be a bad hot wire heat relay Iíve only seen that problem once before and it was on a similar age range about 35 years ago.

I brought all the possible parts along with me so it was an easy fix.

John L


Post# 1157115 , Reply# 16   8/16/2022 at 19:48 by luxflairguy (Wilmington NC)        

Crazy about Kevin's stove!!

Post# 1157175 , Reply# 17   8/17/2022 at 09:15 by kevin313 (Detroit, Michigan)        
John saved the day!

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John - it was so good to see you, Anthony and his mom last week! I'm grateful for your repair on the GE. It's a beautiful range but I just couldn't understand why the oven wouldn't hold temperature. Luckily I knew a repair tech with decades of experience to troubleshoot the problem! Thanks again!!

Post# 1157189 , Reply# 18   8/17/2022 at 12:39 by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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John, thanks for the info about the clock.  That eliminates one repair job, unless Scott gets tired of looking at a clock that only tells the right time twice a day.


Post# 1157191 , Reply# 19   8/17/2022 at 13:14 by Capefolly (Chicago)        

Would anyone know of part numbers or any kind of diagram for this era of ge / hotpoint ovens?

Thanks


Post# 1157193 , Reply# 20   8/17/2022 at 13:28 by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
My sister

had that kitchen with a turquois confetti counter top, and a white 40 inch GE P7 range. It served it's purpose since 1956, and is gone as of spring, replaced by modern updates. Granite, high quality solid cherry, and black stainless or graphite LG screen fridge, convection/induction range and dishwasher. The old stove still worked, but needed a part for the oven. The gold 70's Armstrong Solarian flooring was even still in fine shape. The flow is much nicer now blending with the hardwood flooring in the dining area.
For some, When it's time, it's time.


Post# 1157215 , Reply# 21   8/17/2022 at 18:21 by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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Hi Scott, the wiring information is in the back of the range in a paper envelope.

 

Hi Mike, GE did not make P-7 ranges in 1956.

 

John L.



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