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Thread Number: 91223
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Squeed Queen TC5/DC5 Discontinued? |
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| Post# 1157417 8/20/2022 at 11:23 (612 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN) | ||
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Post# 1157419 , Reply# 1 8/20/2022 at 11:32 (611 days old) by appnut  (TX) |
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Post# 1157420 , Reply# 2 8/20/2022 at 11:53 (611 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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 Can someone in-the-know explain the details of how "commercial cooldown technology" differs from the non-commercial type? :-) CLICK HERE TO GO TO DADoES's LINK | ||
| Post# 1157421 , Reply# 3 8/20/2022 at 12:04 (611 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN) | ||
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Post# 1157442 , Reply# 4 8/20/2022 at 16:17 (611 days old) by ryner1988 (Indianapolis) |
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Post# 1157456 , Reply# 5 8/20/2022 at 19:46 (611 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.) |
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Holy ScHmIT !
They better deliver and install and redo my bathroom for that price.
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Post# 1157458 , Reply# 6 8/20/2022 at 20:14 (611 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Speed Queen TC-5 Are Very Much Still Available And is still the top selling washer from SQ [ for home use ]
I do wish they would push their FL machine more, but is a very expensive machine to produce and they can sell all they make in the commercial side of their business.
$2500 for a pair of new SQs is cheaper than the price of a pair of MT 606s in 1977 and they have a far better warranty will last longer with fewer repairs and best of all do a better job cleaning and drying a larger load of clothing and using less energy and water.
That said I would not buy ANY Top Load washer built today except under special circumstances.
John L. | ||
| Post# 1157486 , Reply# 7 8/20/2022 at 23:29 (611 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
“$2500 for a pair of new Speed Queen’s is cheaper than the price of a pair of Maytag A606s in 1977 and they have a far better warranty will last longer with fewer repairs and best of all do a better job cleaning and drying a larger load of clothing and using less energy and water”
A beg to differ since Speed Queen’s tend to go through belts fairly quickly and the seals and bearings have a tendency to go out as well. I don’t buy that Speed Queen’s wash or rinse better since the first spin is slow which doesn’t spin out enough of the soapy water which leads to suds in the rinse and to add insult to injury, there’s no spray rinse on the final spin which will result in itchy clothes since all the detergent wasn’t rinsed out. Yes, the older Maytags didn’t have a spray rinse on the final spin but had a solid 1 minute spray rinse on the spin first on the fast spin which rinsed things out better. I don’t buy that Speed Queen’s using less water and energy since Speed Queen’s as mentioned aren’t known for rinsing out all that well despite using the proper amount of detergent and such. I also don’t buy that Speed Queen’s dryers do a better job drying since it’s either damp dry or extra crispy with those dryers. A late 70’s Maytag dryer would dry better since the SOH design was well thought out and basically paved the way for all 27” front filter dryers sold today. A new Speed Queen set might use slightly less energy than a older Maytag set but is not that much of a big difference since they both have a similar set up with similarly powerful motors and both dryer designs use 5600 watts of power so there’s no that much of a difference to be honest. | ||
| Post# 1157497 , Reply# 9 8/21/2022 at 01:21 (611 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
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Post# 1157514 , Reply# 10 8/21/2022 at 07:00 (611 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Speed Queen durability Hi Sean, Speed Queen is proven to be the most durable washing machine for home used for sale in the United States for over a decade now.
Our service company works in an area as an authorized service or for Speed Queen in an area that has over 50,000 of these top load washers were talking about in use. We probably use three or four belts a year maintaining these machines we still replace far more main drive belts on old Maytag‘s the second most replaced one is Frigidaire WCI Bilt top load washers.
Just because a video has been made showing bearing and seal replacement and Speed Queen top load washer does not mean they’re having trouble with them.
We’ve been doing factory service for over 10 years on Speed Queen yes we’ve replaced transmissions and bearings and seals probably in five or six Speed Queen‘s by now, we’ve had no major problems with front loaders at all by the way. But the fact that a few machines have failed does not mean they’re having trouble with them.
We Know that the failure rate in warranty of Speed Queen laundry appliances is probably 1/2 to 1/3 of what it was on Maytag and whirlpool‘s back in the 70s and 80s we only do a few warranty calls a month and it’s usually for some unusual situation most often it’s not even a product problem at all but more of a installation problem etc.
Sean I saw your recent post on social media you complain of having no friends and no one to hang out with when you constantly make things up and lie and make things up to suit your liking you’re not going to have friends.
I have tried reaching out to you and also talked with people who have met you, but because you have made up your mind about everything without regard to the facts there is little point talking to you, you do the same thing with politics.
Stay in touch, John L.
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| Post# 1157520 , Reply# 11 8/21/2022 at 08:45 (611 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
must be the year where they change models | ||
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Post# 1157529 , Reply# 12 8/21/2022 at 10:43 (611 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT) |
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Combo 52 At what point did speed queen go from Multispeed Multidirection motors to motors with a variable frequency drive? Just curious, As my local attended laundromat has both a speed queen front loader with variable frequency drive and one with a multi speed motor Sorry for getting off topic | ||
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Post# 1157544 , Reply# 14 8/21/2022 at 15:21 (610 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Laundry appliance warranties in the late 70s
Whirlpool gave you one year parts and labor from the factory, Maytag gave you one year parts and labor in a second year on parts only for the entire machine.
Maytag would not pay labor even if the thing was 30 days old the dealer was stuck handling all the labor work for Maytag, as an independent dealer we gave the customer two years of free labor on a Maytag washer or dryer. Quality control was not nearly as good in the 70s as it got in the later 80s and beyond today things come out of the factory in nearly perfect condition even the cheap brands have very few warranty problems caused by poor assembly or poor quality parts. John L | ||
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Post# 1157556 , Reply# 16 8/21/2022 at 17:29 (610 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1157562 , Reply# 17 8/21/2022 at 18:27 (610 days old) by kenc (SF Bay Area) | ||
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Wow, really? So based on one video from a disgruntled ex speedqueen dealer (he was treated badly IMO) you use terms like "fairly quickly" and "tendency". It shows you have absolutely no information whatsoever to back up the statements you made. I guess these days, your post would be called "fake news". | ||
| Post# 1157673 , Reply# 21 8/23/2022 at 13:55 (608 days old) by kenc (SF Bay Area) | ||
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laundromat? A "year or two" in a laundromat is a lifetime for the average home user. | ||
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Post# 1157680 , Reply# 22 8/23/2022 at 16:53 (608 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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5 cycles a day in a laundromat compared to maybe one in a home seems reasonable to me as an approximation... | ||
| Post# 1157709 , Reply# 24 8/24/2022 at 00:51 (608 days old) by WindRivers (Wind River Range, WY) | ||
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Laundromat vs Home I'm also guessing laundromat machines get abused more than home machines, so maybe we could stretch the 5 to 10 years in my last example to 10 to 20. So a failure or two out of how ever many machines a laundromat has in 10 to 20 years for a residential machine would seem to be not too bad a record. | ||
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Post# 1157716 , Reply# 25 8/24/2022 at 07:26 (608 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Speed Queen laundry durability Usage in a commercial setting varies widely, it would be very rare in a laundromat have only five uses per day the machines won’t even pay for themselves at that rate.
I’ve seldom seen a laundromat replace machines in less than 10 years, keep in mind the frontload Speed Queen‘s will last about twice as long as top load machines.
We do see a lot of commercial top load and front load machines last over 20 years in laundry rooms in apartment and condominium buildings where they’re not used as much and there they are more for the convenience of the residence and not so much as a money making thing.
No other full-size laundry equipment made today is based on commercial equipment speed queen washers and dryers, a 150 pound person can stand on top of them without bending and caving in the tops etc.
All parts are covered for the duration of the warranty including belts, even in commercial settings the belts would normally last 10 years. I have made the comment a double rinsing can increase the likelihood of rinsing all the detergents away and if you’re in hard water areas that can ruin the seal and cause bearing failure this is true of any washing machine has nothing to do particularly with Speed Queen.
Speed Queen laundry equipment today is much like the old Hobart dishwashers, it’s the only machine based entirely on commercial equipment. This does not make Speed Queen the ideal choice for everybody, it does make it a great choice for somebody wants long durability and easy repairs when they do come.
John L | ||
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Post# 1157722 , Reply# 26 8/24/2022 at 08:29 (608 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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"and that they generally did their own service or had their own service contracts.."
Depends upon several factors. Since a down washer or dryer does not generate revenue it behooves laundromat owner to have malfunctioning equipment repaired ASAP. However not all laundromats are owned by hands on owners who also have skills and knowledge to do repairs, even basic. In such instances laundromat like anyone else will have to call in a service tech to do the repair work. That being said a good number of laundromat owners, even those with several shops do their own repairs. It just makes more financial sense and keeps from having machines out of service for long periods. It's like anything else, if you cannot get someone to even walk in and look at your washer or dryer for one or two weeks, then another week or so until parts are ordered, tech comes back to do the job.... Meanwhile again you've got equipment sitting there costing you money but bringing in nothing. Other thing is depending upon clientele base laundromat machines take quite a bit of abuse. In some cases you'd have a service tech out every other day or week dealing with misuse or vandalism. | ||
| Post# 1157778 , Reply# 27 8/24/2022 at 19:42 (607 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
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Reply #10
Let me clarify on a few things. Those posts you saw on Facebook were from a few years ago, I’ve since cleaned house and pretty much deleted a majority of the stuff on my timeline and since have changed the privacy settings so no one can snoop around to see what’s on my Facebook page. Once in awhile I’ll share something witty and silly but haven’t been as active on Facebook lately since there really isn’t much going on Facebook at the moment as well. I pretty much post in groups I am in along with answering questions people have about their vintage Maytag or Whirlpool belt drive washer.
I don’t recall you ever reaching out to me since I don’t remember getting emails/messages in the past few years, only time I recall you emailing me is when I inquired about a Maytag 808 control panel for the customized Maytag dryer I am trying to put together. The only AW members who I’ve gotten in touch with is Richard, Tyler, Chris, Paul, Hans, Christina, and Pat (Agiflow). Those are the only AW members I’ve gotten in touch with. I would like to get in touch with QSD-DAN however he doesn’t have a email posted. | ||
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Post# 1158357 , Reply# 28 8/31/2022 at 22:13 (600 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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matter of time It's just a matter of time before speed queen is forced to build a top load HE washer. | ||
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