Thread Number: 91414
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cascade rinse aids over the years |
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Post# 1159251   9/10/2022 at 20:14 (591 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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When did Cascade release their first rinse aid and what were they like and marketed over the years? |
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Post# 1159837 , Reply# 2   9/18/2022 at 14:35 (583 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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some say that the cascade crystal clear rinse aid came out in 2004. I could've sworn I've seen a commercial for Cascade rinse aid from the 1990's. |
Post# 1159898 , Reply# 3   9/19/2022 at 07:41 (582 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 1159907 , Reply# 4   9/19/2022 at 10:12 (582 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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What rinse aids did cascade have in their lineup? I know their latest one is called power dry. |
Post# 1159992 , Reply# 5   9/20/2022 at 12:18 (581 days old) by sarahperdue (Alabama)   |   | |
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I remember these Jet Dry baskets when I was a kid. They clipped to the dishwasher rack. Did they predate liquid rinse aid dispensers in dishwashers?
I just found them on the Wal-Mart website under the Finish name. Sarah
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Post# 1194367 , Reply# 6   11/29/2023 at 17:22 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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Here's a commercial of the Cascade rinse aid. What era is this from? What year? CLICK HERE TO GO TO GELaundry4ever's LINK |
Post# 1199100 , Reply# 7   2/12/2024 at 00:22 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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Did Cascade ever have a basket to compete with Finish, or was it just liquid? I remember when I was a kid, the spray arms would spin faster when rinse aid was dispensed. It was Cascade Crystal Clear that did that. |
Post# 1199215 , Reply# 9   2/13/2024 at 16:52 by cspetros (Portsmouth, VA)   |   | |
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I have this one little bottle that is unopened from YEARS ago… Yes, I have a small obsession with vintage detergent and soap bottles. 🤷🏻♂️ |
Post# 1199230 , Reply# 10   2/13/2024 at 21:10 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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"Did they predate liquid rinse aid dispensers in dishwashers?"
Early on not all dishwashers had built in rinse agent dispensers. Hence Jet Dry and others offering solid versions that came in those little baskets. Mind you solid versions rinse aids had long been available for commercial ware washing equipment. Mind you for years P&G flogged Cascade with it's "sheeting action" would leave dishes "virtually spotless". Guess that's why P&G didn't bother offering a rinse aid under Cascade brand until early 2000's (IIRC). By this time rinse aid dispensers had pretty much become standard on all dishwashers. |
Post# 1199232 , Reply# 11   2/13/2024 at 21:31 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Tidbit from history.
Ecolab seeing growth in domestic dw market introduced Electrasol in 1953 then Finish. Latter was meant to be more upscale brand IIRC. Jet Dry rinse aids were from Reckitt Benckiser who went on to buy domestic consumer division from Ecolab. In short order Electrasol brand was slowly edged out as Finish became RB's sole and top shelf product line of dishwasher products. Thus now instead of just "Jet Dry" you have "Finish Jet Dry" Think for awhile RB was flogging "Electrasol/Finish", but they may have since dropped Electrasol. www.nytimes.com/2009/06/2... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finish_...(detergent) Before there was "Finish Powerball" we had Electrasol tablets which one at least rather liked. |
Post# 1199236 , Reply# 12   2/13/2024 at 23:00 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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Is it just me, or was Cascade the only rinse aid that caused the spray arms to speed up during final rinse? |
Post# 1199238 , Reply# 13   2/13/2024 at 23:01 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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When did Cascade advertisement their first rinse aid? I remember the tagline said for dishes that absolutely sparkle. |
Post# 1199636 , Reply# 14   2/18/2024 at 17:08 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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P&G did not begin including "rinse agents" into Cascade until "Cascade with Sheeting" action.
www.whatsinproducts.com/c... Many automatic dishwasher detergents early on for domestic use relied upon being laden with phosphates to provide yibble and spot free results. Phosphates bound minerals in water so they didn't leave residue (hopefully), and the slippery water produced helped things dry spot free. True rinse agents are loaded with surfactants (non-ionic usually). They also contain alcohol which is responsible for fast drying of dishes. You see this in how glass, window and mirror cleaners often also contain good amount of alcohol. My guess is in aide of reducing or eliminating phosphates dishwasher detergent makers upped surfactant level. This could explain why some modern dw detergents are more frothy than others. Years ago purchased a canister of Ecolab solid rinse agent going cheap on fleaPay. Rise aid dispenser on my GE Mobile Maid was kaput and thought could use it as a cheaper version of those solid rinse agents that come in those little baskets. It didn't work out.... During course of cycles so much froth would quickly build up could hear pump cavitating. Opening machine revealed a huge amount of froth. Switched to adding small amounts of the stuff to final rinse. Even amount barely size of a fingernail caused high levels of froth to appear nearly at once. So that was end of experiment. Happily local shops were having a sale on Cascade clear rinse agent (they were discontinuing it for some reason). Got a job lot for pennies on dollar and haven't looked back since. |
Post# 1199680 , Reply# 15   2/19/2024 at 11:27 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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Here's the first commercial. CLICK HERE TO GO TO GELaundry4ever's LINK |
Post# 1199681 , Reply# 16   2/19/2024 at 11:29 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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Here's the second one. What year was the first commercial released? I believe this one is from 2004. CLICK HERE TO GO TO GELaundry4ever's LINK |
Post# 1199684 , Reply# 17   2/19/2024 at 11:50 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Going by NOS vintage bottles of Cascade "Crystal" rinse agent the stuff is no more than surfactants (nonionic), alcohol and some sort of dispersant (propylene glycol), along with of course water.
Notice how that Cascade commercial linked above states rinse agent adds a "extra layer". Meaning it isn't exactly necessary because Cascade DW detergent already has "sheeting action". In the detergent that is thanks to healthy doses of phosphates and surfactants (nonionic and anionic) Ethanol (alcohol) is useful for fast streak free drying. This is why you find the stuff in glass, window and mirror cleaners. If dishes are washed and rinsed with water at high enough temps they will "flash" dry quickly enough. More so if door is opened and or things are otherwise exposed to air. My hunch is rinse aids began being pushed as part of energy savings on dw use. Water temps dropped and people were using "energy saver" setting which usually meant turning off heated drying. |
Post# 1199685 , Reply# 18   2/19/2024 at 11:52 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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If anyone is game to try vintage Cascade "Crystal" rinse agent its being flogged on fleaPay.
Knock yourself out: https://www.ebay.com/itm/256331405416QUE... |