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Post# 1164901   11/26/2022 at 09:02 (515 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Which washer do you believe had the best spray rinse coverage for the clothes? Which rinses them the most thoroughly?







Post# 1164933 , Reply# 1   11/26/2022 at 12:42 (514 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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Probably a Frigidaire 1-18. Pre '94 Maytags and pre 90's GE FF's had a nice wide spray pattern with long spray rinse intervals. Pre neutral drain Norges (early 1960's) had a one minute spray rinse before and after the deep rinse.


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Post# 1164949 , Reply# 2   11/26/2022 at 15:51 (514 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Oh! that is nice. With a perforated tub they might even be able to skip the deep rinse. ;)

Post# 1165014 , Reply# 3   11/27/2022 at 14:22 (513 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN)        

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What about the Kenmore direct drives that had the Ultra Rinse systems? With good water pressure, those can be quite good.

Post# 1165023 , Reply# 4   11/27/2022 at 15:03 (513 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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I've vaguely heard about the ultra rinse system. How does it work?


On some Kenmore models they had two 10-15 second spray rinses in the first spin and another two 10-15 second sprays in the second rinse.


Spray rinses of any kind are fascinate me.


Post# 1165024 , Reply# 5   11/27/2022 at 15:15 (513 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
What about the Kenmore direct drives that had the Ultra Rins

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Couldn't find a YouTube clip of one in action but it's probably out there and not labeled "Ultra Rinse" in the description.

Post# 1165025 , Reply# 6   11/27/2022 at 15:26 (513 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN)        

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I have a ton of videos showing the ultra rinse on my Kenmore Elite if you wanna check it out. I like it. It does a spray rinse after the first neutral drain, then after the full tub rinse.






Post# 1165027 , Reply# 7   11/27/2022 at 15:48 (513 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Love it!

I bet with several more of those you could even skip the deep rinse. Flow rate is excellent. I like how it starts before the spin as the clothes accelerate. Though it it were me, I'd have the water going for a full minute. ;)


You're lucky to have a machine like this, best all around washer ever made IMO.


Post# 1165034 , Reply# 8   11/27/2022 at 16:06 (513 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN)        

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Thanks. I think it does a great job spraying the clothes clean. Would be nice to have the option to turn it on or off. The machine was completely restored and I also have a Kenmore 80 series washer. That one doesn't have the ultra rinse system.

Post# 1165036 , Reply# 9   11/27/2022 at 17:33 (513 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Turning it on and off would be nice feature. A switch with multiple rinse options would be best with a name like "ultimate rinse system" You could select a combination of sprays, one deep rinse, two deep rinses or all combination of all.


I think all Whirlpool machines should have done a rinse in each spin, but for some reason they only did it in the last spin.


Post# 1165049 , Reply# 10   11/27/2022 at 19:25 (513 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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Classic belt-drive Whirlpool/Kenmore did four sprays in the first spin and two in the final spin ... touted as seven rinses with the agitated rinse being one of the seven.† I vaguely recall a video of a Kenmore doing four sprays in the final spin.

F&P's spray flume has excellent coverage of the load.


Post# 1165050 , Reply# 11   11/27/2022 at 20:00 (513 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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I recently bought a water flow meter to check usage.

First test, I washed three black t-shirts and a black sweatshirt/hoodie in the AquaSmart on Normal Eco.† Default Eco-Rinse, which is saturation sprays at 25 RPM, each followed by an extraction spin.
†† 3.8 gals for eco active
†† 0.4 added for oversudsing (3-1/3 tbsp Foca powder + 1 tbsp STPP)
†† 5.1 gals added (to minimum level*) for HE agitated wash
†† drain
†† slow spin-extract (300 RPM)
†† 1.0 gal 1st spray
†† slow spin-extract
†† 1.0 gal 2nd spray
†† slow spin-extract
†† 1.0 gal 3rd spray
†† slow spin-extract
†† 0.9 gal 4th spray
†† med spin-extract (670 RPM)
†† 1.0 gal 5th spray
†† med spin-extract
†† 0.9 gal 6th spray
†† final spin

9.3 gals total for wash fill

5.8 gals rinsing

15.1 gals total cycle

*Basket float is normally the trigger for the HE wash level but it occurred before the minimum level was reached so fill continued to the minimum level.


Post# 1165051 , Reply# 12   11/27/2022 at 20:01 (513 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Best top load spray rinse system ever

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Were the Kenmore and Whirlpool direct drive top load washer with the resource saver spin rinsing system.

Mine does six separate rinses starts out with fresh water which is proportion to the amount of clothing in the machine. It will use anywhere from about a half gallon to 2 gallons per rinse and then it continues to recirculate the water over the clothing through the other side of the flume For one minute, and it repeats this six times.

The old belt drive machines had to pulse the spray rinse on and off because they were filling at the rate of over 9 gallons a minute, thatís twice to three times the flow of a Maytag washer, depending on the age or Ge Filter Flow, etc.

If anybody wants a better rinse and faster, fill on the direct drive machine, you can put the yellow belt drive inlet valve in most of them itís bolts right in and youíll get incredible amount of water. A tub will fill up in anywhere from 2 to 3 minutes depending on whether itís the standard or super capacity machine when itís set on warm.

John





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Post# 1165054 , Reply# 13   11/27/2022 at 20:36 (513 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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No deep rinse on the resource saver spin rinsing? I think I'll pass on that but it's a unique idea. It will get the detergent out of the clothes but it's a good idea to have a deep rinse to agitate any lingering dirt/stains out of the clothing.

I'm assuming these are the water valves you're referring to?

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Post# 1165057 , Reply# 14   11/27/2022 at 21:36 (513 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Resource saver, spin rinsing

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There is a deep rinse cycle that could be manually selected after the regular cycle if you feel like you need an additional rinse, I guess if you had a load that was really full of grit and lint, it might be helpful. Iíve never used it.

That looks like the inlet valve Iím talking about I think the part number was 358277 I donít think the one in the link you posted is a genuine, whirlpool valve, and Iíve seen a lot of problems with imitation valves. I try to steer clear of them.

John


Post# 1165065 , Reply# 15   11/28/2022 at 10:16 (513 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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The resource saver was and is ingenious, its a shame it never caught on. I think had it caught on, TL washers could have been produced for longer. And Whirlpool wouldn't have resorted to things like 1/3 fill deep rinses like in the late 2000s.


Thank you for the part number John, I was looking for that. I might just put one of those on my Speed Queen, I never liked the slow fills in comparison to the DDs I had 12 years ago.


Here is the commercial for the Resource Saver:







And a video (not mine) of the full cycle:






Post# 1165186 , Reply# 16   11/29/2022 at 23:00 (511 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
My vote goes to...

GE filter-flo!

Post# 1165727 , Reply# 17   12/5/2022 at 21:57 (505 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
Ge Filter Flo Spray Rinse

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I think half the water went into the outer tub. FFs definitely needed a redesigned fill nozzle IMO, like the rim flow nozzle on the recirculate port, but instead on the fill port.

If resource saver spray rinsing was used on FFs, they could have been kept in production longer.



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