Thread Number: 92155
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
First timer changing belt on 1973 Kenmore C110.470200 |
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Post# 1167172 , Reply# 4   12/21/2022 at 13:10 (491 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Worn belt ... is spin performance, acceleration rate impaired? Perhaps a photo of the belt for reference on its condition? Or a video of the problem happening*? Does the clicking occur only during agitation, not spin or neutral drain? Clicking during agitation ... does the agitation action stop or become erratic with the clicking? A badly-worn belt will slip and agitation speed may reduce accordingly but it wouldn't ordinarily cause a clicking noise. A broken or weak spring in the transmission can cause the the agitation gears to slip in/out of drive-contact and a clicking kind of noise may result. *Videos cannot be attached/uploaded into a post like a photo. Videos must be placed at an online sharing service and linked with a URL in the post. The board software recognizes standard YouTube URLs pasted into a post and automatically embeds the video. |
Post# 1167177 , Reply# 5   12/21/2022 at 17:07 (491 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1167196 , Reply# 6   12/21/2022 at 19:15 (491 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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I agree with Melvin, the transmission/gear case needs to be rebuilt. The spring the pushes the agitate gear down is either worn or broken. I rebuilt mine last year and replaced the spring along with topping it off with fresh gear oil. Rebuilding a Whirlpool/Kenmore belt drive transmission is fairly easy since there isn’t very much inside but can be a bit messy with all the oil that’s in there.
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Post# 1167205 , Reply# 8   12/22/2022 at 02:20 (491 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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You’ll have to remove the gearcase and open it up to find what needs to be replaced. If water hasn’t gotten into it chances are it just needs an oil change and agitator gear spring if it’s broken. 54-56 comes as a kit with the spring and seal. The gear fork spring should probably be replaced while you’re in there as well. It’s a good idea to replace spin tube seal part 22 and also grease and oil center post bearings and replace the top seal(s) if the bearings are still in good shape. If bearings are bad they will need replacement along with a spin tube or basket drive assembly.
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Post# 1167241 , Reply# 11   12/22/2022 at 16:02 (490 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1167247 , Reply# 12   12/22/2022 at 17:53 (490 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 1168600 , Reply# 14   1/7/2023 at 18:29 (474 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Post# 1168603 , Reply# 15   1/7/2023 at 18:38 (474 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Post# 1168613 , Reply# 17   1/7/2023 at 19:53 (474 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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I put Royal Purple 90 weight gear oil in the original transmission to my 1963 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII, has been working flawlessly for almost 2 years with no ill sounds or effects. Thought there was a issue with the transmission late last year but turns out the set screw on the transmission worked loose making a clunking sound making thinking it was the transmission but turns out the transmission pulley was working loose.
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Post# 1168897 , Reply# 18   1/9/2023 at 12:49 (472 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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I would look for another transmission it can probably be fixed if you really wanna go to the mat with us.
It all depends what the gears look like but if they’re at all worn it’s time for a different transmission these things are still common we have so many of them around. I literally threw away 30 of them the other month I’ll never use them. They went for recycling. You can use 70 to 90 weight oil doesn’t matter. Don’t waste your money buying it from whirlpool there’s nothing special about it. the stuff you get it an automotive store is much better than what they used in washing machines. The main problem rebuilding this machine is keeping water out of the transmission the agitator and spin to seal areas need to be in perfect condition with new seals, etc. otherwise it’s a waste of time to rebuild. It won’t last two years if water gets in it again. John |
Post# 1169184 , Reply# 25   1/11/2023 at 16:30 (470 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1169594 , Reply# 29   1/15/2023 at 14:24 (466 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Things I won’t get to try on this washer.
Your third suggestion of sealing the outside of the center post to prevent further corrosion is probably a good one we have done that. There’s really no need to try to keep transmission parts from corroding, etc.. Those transmissions are still a dime it doesn’t used I just put a good one in as long as you can keep water out of it it’ll last forever and nothing is gonna last no matter what you do if you have water in it, you might extend it a little bit. Let us know what you find wrong with the GE. John |
Post# 1169672 , Reply# 30   1/15/2023 at 23:53 (466 days old) by toploadloyalist (San Luis Obispo, CA)   |   | |
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Would you happen to have photos of the washer in its entirety (console, agitator, lid instructions)? |
Post# 1169771 , Reply# 32   1/17/2023 at 02:59 (465 days old) by toploadloyalist (San Luis Obispo, CA)   |   | |
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I listed those things at the end in parenthises. |
Post# 1169788 , Reply# 33   1/17/2023 at 11:33 (464 days old) by pixelhack (Canada)   |   | |
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No more pictures at the moment, this diagram gives an idea what the console looks like though. No lights, bells or whistles on this one. I think the agitator was called a super roto swirl.
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Post# 1169821 , Reply# 34   1/17/2023 at 22:30 (464 days old) by toploadloyalist (San Luis Obispo, CA)   |   | |
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Sufficient enough fore me. |