Thread Number: 92170
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We bought a new freezer |
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Post# 1167371   12/23/2022 at 20:22 (490 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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Happy Holidays everyone! We just bought a new freezer a couple weeks ago and the delivery came today. This new GE replaced our Frigidaire flat freezer. There was nothing wrong with the Frigidaire. We bought this upright freezer because we were tired of using the flat freezer. The problem was that once stuff gets put into the bottom, you'd then forget about it and we'd have to throw them out later because they'd be expired or bad. So we ended up giving that flat freezer to my brother as his Christmas present so he can use it for taxidermy. So far, this appears to work really good. We now have four upright freezers. Enjoy!
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Post# 1167396 , Reply# 1   12/24/2022 at 01:31 (489 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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Post# 1167401 , Reply# 2   12/24/2022 at 02:44 (489 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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Yup, nope, and yup. We have a Kenmore Commercial, a Whirlpool Gold, and a Kelvinator. Plus the freezer next to our fridge in the kitchen which is a GE. And we have a couple of portable fridges as well with small freezers inside of them, a GE and a Galanz. We have four freezers because why not? And yes it is technically a chest freezer but we call it a flat freezer.
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Post# 1167410 , Reply# 3   12/24/2022 at 07:41 (489 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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Post# 1167426 , Reply# 4   12/24/2022 at 10:53 (489 days old) by turbokinetic (Northport, Alabama USA)   |   | |
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Nice! Those are more convenient, but they depend heavily on the door gasket to keep the denser, cold air from falling out the bottom, and drawing in moisture laden air at the top. Keep that gasket in good order and it should serve well for a long time! |
Post# 1167429 , Reply# 5   12/24/2022 at 11:19 (489 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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Post# 1167453 , Reply# 6   12/24/2022 at 15:48 (489 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 1167459 , Reply# 7   12/24/2022 at 17:23 (489 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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I can certainly understand having good freezer capacity around. I’ve had two full sized upright freezers in my kitchen for the last 35 years, and two matching all refrigerators, and there’s usually just one or two of us around here, but I put them to good use.
Are used to have an 18 ft.³ chest freezer before I redid the kitchen 35 years ago And I really like the chest freezer. It just wouldn’t fit into the kitchen plan and I wanted to have it on the same level as the kitchen in the house. I never had any trouble keeping a chest freezer organized I just made different categories from left to right and you get about twice as much stuff per cubic foot in a chest freezer because you don’t have to pack it between shelves and you don’t have to worry about it falling on your feet and breaking your toes. The other big advantage of a chest freezer is it has a much more consistent temperature and it’s only 1/3 as likely to break down as a frost free upright freezer which is always a big consideration when you have a lot of frozen food on hand and as David said you don’t really have to worry about gaskets on the chest freezer they’re not nearly so critical. An upright freezer it is easier to see what’s in there although I still lose plenty of stuff in the back. It’ll be interesting to see how this Thailand built freezer holds up in general. The freezers that are available in the US these days are not like they used to be that’s for sure. John It’s kind of amazing that we’re importing something that large halfway around the world. |
Post# 1167465 , Reply# 8   12/24/2022 at 20:00 (489 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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The days of importing these finsished large appliances and furniture may be coming to an end in the not too distant future because of escalating shipping costs. And with China and Korea, escalating labor costs themselves. The days of shipping a packed 40' container from Asia to a west coast port for a couple of thousand bucks is over. Not to mention the trucking and rail furtherance costs have also escalated making it less and less attractive without raising the prices of the goods substantially, ergo making manufacturing or at least some of the assembly in the west much more economically attractive.
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Post# 1167484 , Reply# 9   12/24/2022 at 22:12 (489 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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The illusion of saving money with a (or numerous) food freezers. The idea is one can buy stuff "in bulk" and "save" money by freezing food until needed. All fine and good ....if one follows through with that pattern.
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Post# 1167495 , Reply# 10   12/25/2022 at 00:58 (488 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1167498 , Reply# 11   12/25/2022 at 05:53 (488 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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I've had my Kenmore ~14.5 cu ft chest freezer for probably about 20 years now. Still works fine. However I probably need to clean it out because I've sort of lost track of what I put in there a couple years ago.
It's my understanding that chest freezers are more energy efficient than upright freezers. Probably because all the cold air doesn't exit every time you open the lid, as it can with an upright freezer door.
One problem I've noticed with the chest freezer is that it's easy to overfill it and not notice right away. But due to the lid not closing all the way from the overfilling, moisture from the room air can enter and cause frost on the inner front of the chest cavity. And that's what I just observed when measuring the inner chest. Probably time for a scraping, and, later, moving all the contents out for a full defrost. This one has a little "flash defrost" pin one can pull, which can run current through some coils in the walls to melt any accumulated ice, which can speed up the defrost process. There is also a drain at the front of the cabinet. |
Post# 1167507 , Reply# 12   12/25/2022 at 13:25 (488 days old) by fan-of-fans (Florida)   |   | |
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We did the same thing about 8 years ago. Had a small Sears “Galaxy” that worked great but got tired of having to dig around in it, and don’t miss having to defrost it. Haven’t had any problems with the upright one, it’s a Frigidaire made Kenmore. |
Post# 1167595 , Reply# 13   12/26/2022 at 19:35 (487 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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Post# 1167620 , Reply# 14   12/27/2022 at 01:12 (486 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)   |   | |
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Post# 1167629 , Reply# 15   12/27/2022 at 07:19 (486 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Originally, when Sears sold these, it was an electric heater behind the liner of the chest freezers. These were whirlpool built chest freezers. There’s a high switch inside the lid. You open the lid and you pull the button down and it would activate an electric heater that would warm up the inside walls of the freezers to around 50° and make all the frost just melt and/or fall off Made for a very quick defrost. the switch to activate. It was designed so that when you close the lid, it would turn it off, so there was no chance of defrosting a load of frozen food. It turned the compressor off while it was defrosting.
They certainly could’ve used a hot gas defrost system. I’m not sure why they didn’t and that’s an excellent question Bob I’ve been asking refrigeration engineers for a long time why they don’t use hot gas defrost in modern refrigerators. It would certainly seem that it would be much more energy efficient to use 150 W compressor acting as a heat pump instead of turning on a 400 W electric heater maybe somebody else knows the answer to that. John. |
Post# 1167785 , Reply# 16   12/29/2022 at 04:02 (484 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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I doubt that the "hot gas" method of defrosting would save much energy vs. the electric coil method, because a chest freezer only needs defrosting every couple of years or so. In my experience, the electric coils melt the frost in perhaps 30 minutes to an hour. And it is probably more expensive to mfg a gas driven system than an electric system, as well as the gas system being more liable to break down.
Mainly I see frost in my chest freezer when I've over-filled it and the lid hasn't closed completely. That's what's recently happened, so time to get out the scraper and get rid of some of the frost. |