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Fix or replace Bosch Dishwasher SHX68T52UC/09
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Post# 1167953   12/31/2022 at 09:24 (480 days old) by parunner58 (Davenport, FL)        

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Last night when the dishwasher beeped, when I opened it instead of the blast of steam and hot air, I was welcomed with cold and dripping dishes. The display showed "call for service" and error E:09. I went on the Bosch website and E:09 is the "E09 There is a heat pump internal heater fault/error. Reset power to breaker for 30 seconds." I reset the breaker and ran the Express cycle and got the same result. I them went to the service screen and called and got no answer. did the online setup for a service call and the soonest they can come is February 2023. The other repair company out of Tampa(90 minutes from my house) listed had a a few bad calls filed with the Better Business Bureau. On both the service said $160 for the call visit and then $16 dollars every 6 minutes plus parts. I then did a search on Bosch dishwasher service and got an Angi's list company. They called back and left a text message last night saying they could help us. Their service fee is only $59 and are coming 1/9/23 to check it. On searching for new dishwashers, they may be in short supply based on what I want which is the same one or equal model of another brand.


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Post# 1167957 , Reply# 1   12/31/2022 at 10:31 (480 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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P/N appears to be 12008381 for model SHX68T52UC/09.

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Here's it directly from Bosch 12008381 Heat Pump BLDC, TP3, w/Hose Clamp, Motor Suspension Strap

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Post# 1167962 , Reply# 2   12/31/2022 at 11:43 (480 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Fix or replace a Bosch dishwasher

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Hi Mike canít really begin to advise without more information such as how old is this dishwasher what did you pay for it? Have you spent any money on repairs before?

It sounds like youíd like the dishwasher so I would probably in general look into fixing it

We donít work on Bosch dishwashers, so I donít have a Lot of good information for you. We do seem to see a lot of breakdowns with him. We turn down 5 to 20 calls a week on them. And in spite of their popularity, many companies still donít wanna fool with them.

And generally they tend to be more difficult to do serious repairs on but it seems that all dishwashers are having a lot of problems these days I really donít have , a recommendation for one thatís fool proof.

John


Post# 1167963 , Reply# 3   12/31/2022 at 12:01 (480 days old) by parunner58 (Davenport, FL)        

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Sorry John, we bought September 12, 2016 from Lowes here in Davenport FL. My one sister had one and when the heater went on hers, she just replaced the whole machine.

Post# 1167972 , Reply# 4   12/31/2022 at 15:36 (479 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Fix or replace a six year old Bosch dishwasher

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I would try to talk to some experience, Bosch repair companies in your area and ask them with this would likely cost to repair. Itís a common enough problem they should be able to give you some idea and then make your decision based on that.

I shouldíve asked how many loads a week youíve been washing in it, if itís only two or three per week, it may be worth fixing, or if the cost is reasonable if youíve been running it once a day, I would tend to consider replacement, but again, it depends on the price of the repair and how quickly you can get a replacement dishwasher it might be worth fixing.

I had a customer a month ago pay $550 to fix a four year old whirlpool dishwasher that only cost $500 to him. It was worth it because I had the parts and could do it immediately and he didnít have to go through the trouble of waiting and buying a dishwasher. You have to make the ultimate call .

John


Post# 1167979 , Reply# 5   12/31/2022 at 16:22 (479 days old) by Mrlaundry1011 (South Wales, UK)        

Yeah heat pumps problems are quite well-known for Bosch made dishwashers, probably the only real common issue they have. Iíd say itís worth it and it wouldnít put me off buying one again (currently own the Wi-Fi serie 2 range), if it did fail Iíd try and replace it myself

Post# 1167981 , Reply# 6   12/31/2022 at 16:30 (479 days old) by parunner58 (Davenport, FL)        

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Hi John,
We run it 3-4 times a week. My one buddy gave me a link and his says the pump/heater is about $250, Glenns link says about $107. I will see what the repair guy says on the 9th. The dishwashers I am looking at are roughly $1100. This one was $1100 back in 2016. Right now, it runs and washes at the temp of the water heater, just does not get the water 160 degrees for the condensation drying a Bosch does. So I can deal with that for a few weeks. Just air dry over night or get the dish towels out.


Post# 1168004 , Reply# 7   12/31/2022 at 19:48 (479 days old) by LowEfficiency (Iowa)        

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>> We do seem to see a lot of breakdowns with him. We turn down 5 to 20 calls a week on them.
>> And in spite of their popularity, many companies still donít wanna fool with them.

Statistically, I bet some of those folks had units covered by recalls. At least in the past, Bosch was offering some nice incentives to buy new rather than repair.


Post# 1168007 , Reply# 8   12/31/2022 at 20:19 (479 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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Always better to buy new instead of repair ... keep the factory production lines going and landfills filled!


Post# 1168022 , Reply# 9   12/31/2022 at 23:25 (479 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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These dishwashers do not actually have a heat pump to heat the water, but rather have a heating element built into the pump.

I have heard that there are dishwashers built in the world that actually use a compressor and a heat pump cycle to heat water.

If I knew I would get a whirlpool product if for no other reason, itís a large union plant in Ohio, which is run on 50% wind energy right at the factory.

But energy wise. It would be better to try to repair this appliance if you can.

John


Post# 1168035 , Reply# 10   1/1/2023 at 01:55 (479 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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The official name for tis style of water heatig is inline watr heating or flow-through water heating.

Post# 1168036 , Reply# 11   1/1/2023 at 03:37 (479 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
We had the same error on ours about 9 months in...

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Our heater/pump was replaced via our home warranty so I don't know what it would have cost to fix it.  However, I watched him do the repair and while he did have to pull the machine out to get to the right side, it didn't look terribly difficult to do.   Seemed kind of plug and play.

 

I did some research on these issues and from what I read a common cause of this issue is from using high sudsing dishwasher detergents.  I'm sure that statement will spark some chatter here but it's what I read.  Supposedly the very sudsy water going through the in line heater causes it to work harder than it needs to and in some cases is responsible for these failures.  I think I was using Cascade pods at the time and they are pretty "sudsy."

 

That repair was about 4 years ago and it's been fine ever since.  I've moved to a dishwasher detergent that does not suds and haven't had any issues since.  


Post# 1168050 , Reply# 12   1/1/2023 at 10:47 (479 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Ralph, since I acquired my Bosch, I've not forgotten you having to have the above-mentioned repair and the most likely cause of. I remember numerous times when I'd have foam choaking water circulation in both my Kenmore Elites. And I've used the Bosch-suggested brand since day one--Finish Max-in-1 (typical daily loads) and Finish Quantum (for extremely heavy soiled loads). For most loads, I also squirt a little bit of Cascade Gel in the door for the prewash--which is 7 minutes long for Auto amd Speed 60 cycles and 10 minutes when 1/2 load option is selected.

Post# 1168071 , Reply# 13   1/1/2023 at 18:48 (478 days old) by Jerrod_Six (Eastern Pennsylvania, USA)        

When my Miele DW was new the pump kept having faults so the technician replaced the pump. I took pics of the pump and inside one of the water outlets that was open and I think you can see the heater coil inside.

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Post# 1168117 , Reply# 14   1/2/2023 at 14:04 (477 days old) by Logixx (Germany)        

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I'd replace the heating pump myself with the help of a (useful) YouTube tutorial, of which there are plenty of.

Post# 1168172 , Reply# 15   1/3/2023 at 04:53 (477 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
Replacing the wash pump

The hardest part will be getting it out and back into the cabinets.

Since this is a machine WITHOUT Zeolite/CrystalDry, the recommendation by Bosch is not the best way to replace the pump.
You are supposed to basically remove the entire wash tub, which makes changing and fitting the pump way easier, but in itself is a pretty involved process.

The "hacky", not engineer approved but customer service used procedure is pulling the machine, removing the right side panel (2 screws I think), remove the electronic control board from its place (either unplug completely or just partially and then swinging it out of the way).
Then - while tight - you can remove the wash pump through the narrow gap.
Fitting the new pump can be quite fiddely, hardest part being positioning the hose retainer clip correctly (5mm/0.25in distance).


A skilled technician can do that repair start to finish in 15min, even a novice wont take more than an hour.
Even though everything is keyed kust keep making pictures during disassembly and reference as needed during reassembly.


Post# 1169243 , Reply# 16   1/12/2023 at 09:02 (468 days old) by parunner58 (Davenport, FL)        

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Update: Today the guy is coming to install the new heater/pump. The total for parts and service is $329.00 I don't think that is a bad price. For the guys here, the repair guys is quite nice looking Latin.

Post# 1169348 , Reply# 17   1/13/2023 at 12:59 (467 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        

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For the guys here, the repair guys is quite nice looking Latin. 

 

Did the part get replaced and how is it working?  Might you break something else on the dishwasher the get the cute repairman back?  HAHA

 


Post# 1169355 , Reply# 18   1/13/2023 at 14:07 (466 days old) by parunner58 (Davenport, FL)        

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UPDATE: Yesterday the tech came and replaced the pump/heater and it's back to working perfectly again.

I would love to have him return. He was a Latino Bear cub with some fur showing out of his slightly unbuttoned work shirt, tight black jeans. LOL


Post# 1169390 , Reply# 19   1/13/2023 at 20:32 (466 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)        

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This sounds like the premise for an erotic story.


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