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Thread Number: 92475
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Hotpoint supermatic .One for the UK guys |
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| Post# 1170994 2/2/2023 at 15:24 (448 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
Hi all
This machine is a hotpoint supermatic 9414W with a stuck Agitator .I cant budge the dam thing and i don't want to break anything . When trying to loosen the grey knob it just clicks as its turned .The machine [although its in excellent condition ] hasn't been used for a long time . I suspect the bolt inside the white plastic agitator is seized into the spider underneath . Anyone got any suggestions on how to get some lube in there . Any help would be much appreciated | ||
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Post# 1171063 , Reply# 1 2/3/2023 at 06:39 (448 days old) by Slowspin66  (lincoln uk) |
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Heat it up  | ||
| Post# 1171080 , Reply# 2 2/3/2023 at 12:16 (448 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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Managed
to squirt WD through the small holes in the agitator left it overnight and with a bit of fiddling it came loose .No wonder it was stuck probably hasn't been off since the thing was new .it was full of dirt and dried up fluff . The tripod is a little loose so i decided to take it off and see what was going on underneath Managed to pull the tripod off with a set of pulley draws but it is corroded also the seal underneath needs replacing .God only knows where I'm gonna get hold of them
. If anyone has spare ones they want to sell please let me know. My next job is to get the gearbox off and see what's in it if anything hopefully OIL but that's for another day | ||
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Post# 1171205 , Reply# 3 2/4/2023 at 14:38 (446 days old) by Slowspin66 (lincoln uk) |
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This is on eBay
This is part of what you need
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| Post# 1171276 , Reply# 4 2/5/2023 at 10:28 (446 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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Tripod
managed to get the replacement tripod from Slowspin so all in need now is a new seal to go underneath it. If anyone has one to sell please let me know .Any tips on getting the [plastic] tub nut off would be appreciated.There is some rust at the bottom of the tub and i would like to do something about it before i reassemble the machine. i have soaked it in WD and left it for a day or two but it wont budge .The whole centre column it turning but the nut wont budge.I have done a lot of cleaning today .the machine is filthy inside and out but under all the muck its in good condition and the white cabinet has no rust .I have also cleaned away all the oil that has leaked from the gearbox due to the plastic plug being loose .Its getting cold now so I'm off back in the house for a hot drink .will do a bit more tomorrow
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| Post# 1171280 , Reply# 5 2/5/2023 at 10:56 (446 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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few more pics
with all the muck removed. So many plastic parts that really should be metal [and once were] the quality went down while the price of this machine went up. The person i got this machine from bought two at the same time ,One for his wife and one for his mum .You can see the variations in price on the receipts that were inside the user manual
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Post# 1171339 , Reply# 6 2/6/2023 at 02:35 (445 days old) by Slowspin66 (lincoln uk) |
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They turn up on eBay | ||
| Post# 1171343 , Reply# 7 2/6/2023 at 06:01 (445 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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I
only want to take it off to treat the rust before it gets any worse .But i may just try to do that with the post and heater in situ rather than break the nut and not have a replacement but if you come across a nut please let me know .I think the seal that fits under the tripod may be the next big obstacle .I have seen a couple on Ebay but when i try to buy the i just get the out of stock message but i will keep at it you never know one may pop up
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Post# 1171344 , Reply# 8 2/6/2023 at 06:36 (445 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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Hotpoint supermatic
Another reason the prices vary is due to them being different models the 9404 was a lower end with no automatic rinse feature. and although they may not be as well built they are still around I have 4 all working and in great condition. I have some parts from one a took apart due to not needing yet another :)
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| Post# 1171381 , Reply# 9 2/6/2023 at 10:20 (445 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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yes i realized | ||
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Post# 1171407 , Reply# 10 2/6/2023 at 14:45 (444 days old) by Slowspin66 (lincoln uk) |
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Look what’s on Ebay UK
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| Post# 1171410 , Reply# 11 2/6/2023 at 15:20 (444 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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thats | ||
| Post# 1171698 , Reply# 12 2/9/2023 at 14:20 (442 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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Hi all
The replacement tripod arrived today [courtesy of Slowspin66] and i have a new plastic nut for the centre post so i did as suggested and cut the old one off with a hot knife . i also removed the heater and the drain outlet . next job was to tackle the rust . I honestly thought the tub was in a bad way but was pleasantly surprised to find that all that rust was caused by some old hair grips and a few nails that had rusted away [ i really do think the agitator hasnt been off for a very long time .even the trap in the tub drain hose was full of crud] . After scraping the rust off and then a good scrub with a brillo pad the tubs looking much better .the only thing i cant shift is the dard stain at the top of the picture .will start reassembly tomorrow
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Post# 1171752 , Reply# 13 2/10/2023 at 02:16 (441 days old) by Slowspin66 (lincoln uk) |
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Looks excellent | ||
| Post# 1171814 , Reply# 14 2/10/2023 at 16:56 (440 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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yes | ||
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Post# 1172002 , Reply# 15 2/12/2023 at 01:45 (439 days old) by Slowspin66 (lincoln uk) |
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It won’t hurt | ||
| Post# 1172007 , Reply# 16 2/12/2023 at 04:04 (439 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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Well i did
a bit more yesterday .Tub is back on although i haven't tightened the plastic nut yet . can you tell me if i have put the drain hose [from tub to pump] back together properly as in the fat bit with the filter onto the tub and the other end onto the pump .I have to say all the rubber parts on this machine are in very good condition [no perished bits any where ] even the spiner drain hose is in good nick however if you look carefully you can see a slight bulge on the black hose in the photo .this was where oil had dripped onto it .Next i put the top on and reconnected all the electrics and the two cables .I also had to move the tension spring on the wash pump as the belt was rubbing against the centre post of the wash tub [maybe a new belt might help ] Will do a bit more tmro if its not too cold
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Post# 1172013 , Reply# 17 2/12/2023 at 08:01 (439 days old) by Slowspin66 (lincoln uk) |
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It’s looking like new | ||
| Post# 1174392 , Reply# 18 3/11/2023 at 11:32 (412 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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Hi All
this machine is just about finished now .Its all up and running but i would just like to know what the correct belt would be to drive the spin dryer [not the pump] .When i got the machine there was no belt present so after a rummage through my ancient old van stock [or what's left of it] i found an elasticated belt that fits and it works ok but looking at the pulleys on the motor and the clutch pully it looks as though there should be a V belt fitted .
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| Post# 1174536 , Reply# 19 3/12/2023 at 18:26 (410 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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decided to give this machine
a run today .All went well for the first couple of loads and then blue smoke and that tell tale acrid smell [spinner motor burnt out ] What caused the problem was a yellow duster that was on the floor .It got caught up in the bottom of the spin dryer clutch jamming everything up .before i could switch off the damage was done so now i"m looking for a replacement motor . If anyone has a motor for sale i would be most grateful.so its back in the garage for the time being
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Post# 1174603 , Reply# 20 3/13/2023 at 12:17 (410 days old) by Slowspin66 (lincoln uk) |
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I think my friend has one | ||
| Post# 1174606 , Reply# 21 3/13/2023 at 13:51 (410 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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Thanks darren | ||
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Post# 1174676 , Reply# 22 3/14/2023 at 01:20 (409 days old) by Slowspin66 (lincoln uk) |
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Post# 1174687 , Reply# 23 3/14/2023 at 06:44 (409 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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Spin belt | ||
| Post# 1175450 , Reply# 24 3/21/2023 at 16:13 (401 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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thanks Ozzie 908 | ||
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Post# 1176093 , Reply# 25 3/26/2023 at 05:08 (397 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Hotpoint Supermatics 
Morning Anthony
Apologies I seemed to have missed this thread and Welcome to the Supermatic club, great washers and between us with spares you should have no problem having a working machine. The great thing is they are certainly worth the graft to renovate and the satisfaction of having repaired it yourself. Did you repair many of these in your time as an engineer ? Cheers, Mike | ||
| Post# 1176776 , Reply# 26 4/1/2023 at 16:18 (390 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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Hi mike
well after a few mishaps it working well .The wash pump pulley broke in half so knowing i wouldn't be able to get a replacement i made a new one out of an Ikea cabinet leg and after three loads its still working as it should [its probably stronger than the original]. I did work on a lot of these twintubs as well as the Hoover and frigidaire models that were around at the time .It was so easy back then .just replace parts when needed but as you probably know its not so easy these days. I think i prefer the older hotpoint twintubs to this model purely for the build quality same goes for Hoover .Too much plastic for my liking
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| Post# 1178563 , Reply# 27 4/20/2023 at 02:55 (372 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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Well
guys . I finished this machine and with its new spin motor and bodged up wash pump its running perfectly .So time moves on and i start a new project [hotpoint Empress] meanwhile the busted pulley from the supermatic wash pump is on the windowsill in the kitchen [or it was ] I had completely forgotten about it till this morning when my partner said to me oh here's that pully you wanted .A new [printed ]pully only this one is much more substantial than the old one .Just thought you would like to see it. I have to say i take back everything i said about too much plastic .We may not be able to get parts for these old machines but at least with these fantastic new inventions we have the option to print new ones [within reason ]
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Post# 1178565 , Reply# 28 4/20/2023 at 03:54 (372 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Hotpoint & 3D Printing ...
Morning Anthony and WOW now thats a great job done, I think your printer person will be getting lots of requests, the applications are endless for the hobby we have.
Was the original more of a hard bakelite ? It looks it ? wonder if the new plastic version will be longer lasting etc Great work , Enjoy the restorations , we all are following your progress !! Gotta love those Hotpoint Supermatics !!
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Post# 1178601 , Reply# 29 4/20/2023 at 13:45 (372 days old) by Slowspin66 (lincoln uk) |
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Brilliant job | ||
| Post# 1178604 , Reply# 30 4/20/2023 at 14:45 (372 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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the original pully was plastic
and if you look carefully you can see where the belt has worn the side of it over time .the new printed one is also plastic but as you can see its much thicker than the old one and its heavier .I also got a new wheel printed for an 80 year old Hoover vac i have .its had a wheel missing for at least 30 years and i never thought i would ever get a replacement
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Post# 1178687 , Reply# 31 4/21/2023 at 06:15 (371 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Hotpoint Hoover 3D Printed Parts
Oh now thats great to know Anthony these 3D printed parts are stacking up for working parts , now could it print a working display Jetamatic ?
The cream paint is a perfect match will you laquer over it or is it durable enough ? mind if the original lasted 70+ years then do you need to ha ha . I bet the neighbour is going to wonder "What The Heck" or be totally overwhelmed that her beloved Hotpoint Empress, possibly her first electric machine is being restored and looked after .
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| Post# 1178711 , Reply# 32 4/21/2023 at 14:03 (371 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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I have often wondered what happened
To the see through Jetamatic [cant bear the thought of it being scrapped] . There cant have been many of them made .There was also a Frigidaire fridge [huge thing it was ] with a cut away compressor that hung on four springs making the fridge virtually silent and a maching dishwasher with a see through door .All three appliances could be bought in any of the six colours that were available. Some nice Hotpoints there and i haven't seen a light N Easy for years
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