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Thread Number: 92534
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
Franklin-WCI Transmission & Tub Brakes |
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Post# 1171448 , Reply# 1 2/6/2023 at 22:04 (452 days old) by combo52  (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Post# 1171493 , Reply# 3 2/7/2023 at 10:37 (452 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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explains that Kelvinator "removed" the brakes from the washer. I think that video is misleading. The only time Kelvinator ever used a true spin brake was just for 2 or 3 years when they switch production from the ABC/Orbital design to the Norge made design with the fast acting brake latch. Once they went to the Franklin transmission there was no spin brake ever in that system except for stopping the tub from turning both directions. This brake was minor and only meant to allow the tub indexing in one direction only.
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| Post# 1171498 , Reply# 4 2/7/2023 at 11:15 (451 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york) | ||
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Really? What year did they change to the Norge made design with the fast acting brake latch? Norge made Kelvinator's? Have you ever seen a Bradford Grant washer, John? These washer were the non-indexing spin brake machines | ||
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Post# 1171504 , Reply# 5 2/7/2023 at 11:51 (451 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Franklin designed automatic washers | ||
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Post# 1171512 , Reply# 6 2/7/2023 at 12:15 (451 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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I think Harry may be right, from looking at the early 70s Bradford washer brochure it claims to have a brake. This would be a Franklin transmission with a brake, unless of course this is just advertising nonsense.
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| Post# 1171747 , Reply# 7 2/9/2023 at 23:41 (449 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york) | ||
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This is from a 1975 Kelvinator washer Repair Master catalog...thoughts
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Post# 1171757 , Reply# 8 2/10/2023 at 07:09 (449 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Franklin transmissions Hi Harry there are two very different transmissions in your reply #7.
The one on the left is the older design. Like our 1960 co-op Franklin belt washer head it almost looks like there’s a brake in the bottom but I can’t read the print in your post. You can read it and tell us.
I can tell you our co-op did not have a brake it took about 30 to 45 seconds to coast to a stop, The transmission design on the right is the later designed but they used up until the last 10 years and that one definitely does not have any type of tub break to slow the tub or keep it from indexing
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Post# 1171766 , Reply# 9 2/10/2023 at 08:05 (449 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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That Franklin transmission on the left does in fact have a brake assembly, the later one on the right does not as John said. Here is the proof I found:
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Post# 1171772 , Reply# 10 2/10/2023 at 09:09 (449 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Franklin top load washer with brake | ||
| Post# 1171773 , Reply# 11 2/10/2023 at 09:41 (449 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york) | ||
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Hey John, it's not the original, copied the pic from an eBay auction, sorry. So, there seem to be quite a few 18-pound giant capacity washers with the "angel-wing" agitators that used tub indexing and non-indexing Franklin transmissions. Hi Robert, where are these pics of the transmission from? I'd like to see more. | ||
| Post# 1171774 , Reply# 12 2/10/2023 at 10:28 (449 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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earlier franklin transmission somewhere on here there are some good pics of the mechanism of a 1968 era Franklin built Hamilton washer(a real beauty in coppertone ) | ||
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Post# 1171781 , Reply# 13 2/10/2023 at 11:11 (448 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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| Post# 1171789 , Reply# 14 2/10/2023 at 13:13 (448 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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so cool! Thanks Robert! | ||
| Post# 1171798 , Reply# 15 2/10/2023 at 14:50 (448 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york) | ||
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Thanks for the pics of the transmission and video, Robert. | ||
| Post# 1171801 , Reply# 16 2/10/2023 at 15:30 (448 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york) | ||
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The Hamilton's agitator cap is the same style as the late 70's angel-wing agitators | ||
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Post# 1171840 , Reply# 17 2/10/2023 at 20:44 (448 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia) |
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Gearcase looks similar to a Simpson 'plastic bucket'
Was just looking at the pics in reply #7 and the gearcase assembly looks very similar to what's inside the Australian made Simpson plastic bucket gearbox, which makes sense as I have service manuals stating the gearbox was based on a US Franklin gearbox. You can see the gearcase in these pictures of a recently overhauled Simpson project. Difference is the Simpson gearbox has been designed to work with the Maytag style stem seal kit and brake assembly.
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| Post# 1171854 , Reply# 18 2/10/2023 at 22:40 (448 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york) | ||
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Hhmm, that's pretty awesome Leon. Thanks for sharing those fantastic pics also, very much appreciated. | ||
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Post# 1171857 , Reply# 19 2/11/2023 at 00:05 (448 days old) by 114jwh (Vancouver) |
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Eddy had one at one time... A Franklin built washer with a brake! CLICK HERE TO GO TO 114jwh's LINK | ||
| Post# 1172165 , Reply# 20 2/13/2023 at 21:26 (445 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada) | ||
Yes James! | ||
| Post# 1172233 , Reply# 21 2/14/2023 at 18:46 (444 days old) by Paulwash (Niagara Falls New York) | ||
Franklin - WCI Transmission and Tub Brakes 
I gotta jump in on this one.. my grandfather remarried in the 1970s he married a woman that brought her washing machine that she used for some years for her 6 kids it was a Hamilton. I distinctly remember I used it at age 10 I used powdered all detergent the tub did not index the machine was very loud while washing and it very much looked like this Gibson I would love to see this machine wash love the agitator that machine is out there I know my buddy Ricker that recently passed had a set in copper tone but not with the the turquoise agitator. Anybody have any videos of this machine
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