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Post# 1171470   2/7/2023 at 06:51 (452 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN)        

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I came across this Kenmore dryer and it seems to be fully loaded. It is a gas model. The unit is very, very clean. Does anybody have more information on this dryer? I haven't seen one that has a dedicated wrinkle guard option. The seller is asking $250 for it. Is this one better than the one that has the lint trap on top?

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Post# 1171471 , Reply# 1   2/7/2023 at 07:30 (452 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

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They’re not as easy to work on as the top filter models but I have always liked and had good luck with the front filter design.

Post# 1171472 , Reply# 2   2/7/2023 at 07:31 (452 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN)        

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What’s likely to need repairing on this?

Post# 1171473 , Reply# 3   2/7/2023 at 07:35 (452 days old) by jmm63 (Denville, NJ)        

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One of the best dryers I ever had, bought new in 1999 with the matching washer. Had to sell it when I bought this house since we don't have gas.

Post# 1171485 , Reply# 4   2/7/2023 at 09:44 (452 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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I always felt the 27" dryer was a superior design over the 29" top filter models. Front to back airflow and the drum is support by rollers in both the front and rear bulkheads. Less piping with less angles and lint buildup isn't as much of a problem. No linty mess all over top panel during cleaning periods is a big plus as well. The design looks suspiciously like a Maytag SOH dryer with front rollers instead of glides but made 20 years later. Apparently the Koreans (LG and Samsung) liked the design enough to copy it.


Post# 1171490 , Reply# 5   2/7/2023 at 10:20 (452 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Good dryer but is a real pain to put the belt back onto the motor pulley and tensioner on the 27” dryers. As Dan mentioned, the Whirlpool 29” dryers have a tendency to accumulate lint inside the lint screen plenum which will choke down dryer performance. I don’t have experience with the 1966 and later Whirlpool 29” top filter dryers but have had very good experience with the 1963 RCA Whirlpool imperial dryers that’s paired up with it’s matching Mark XII washer. Replaced the thermostats last October and seems to dry much faster, sped up the drying time about 5 to 10 minutes since I looked towards the air inlet towards the upper left hand corner when drying towels and the heating element stayed on for about a good 40 minutes before cycling off vs the original thermostat that would have cycled it off much sooner.

Post# 1171496 , Reply# 6   2/7/2023 at 11:03 (452 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

27" W/P Kenmore dryers are very well built in comparison to the 29" dryer, but I must disagree about lint buildup. I have seen many more 27" dryer "lint buckets". Also, since the 27" dryer drums are deeper but not as wide, clothing sends to roll into the left corner and not spread out as well as the 29" dryer drums which are wider, but not as deep. Never understood why they put the moisture sensor on the right side of the lint screen cover instead of the left side for better contact with the clothing.
Maytag SOH dryers do have tumbler pads that do wear down. I'm pretty sure 29" dryers first used drum rollers in 1965 so Maytag copied, as did others later on.


Post# 1171499 , Reply# 7   2/7/2023 at 11:21 (452 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN)        

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Would it be difficult to open up and just vacuum all the lint out?

Post# 1171502 , Reply# 8   2/7/2023 at 11:45 (452 days old) by ryner1988 (Indianapolis)        

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I really like most things about the 29 dryers with the top mounted lint screen except, well, the top mounted lint screen. I have had one for several years now and it's my biggest irritation with this dryer hands down. I would love to have a comparable model but with the lint screen inside the door.

Post# 1171511 , Reply# 9   2/7/2023 at 12:13 (451 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

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Nothing should need repairing and there should be no lint if the used appliance place selling this did a good job of going through it. The bottom front panel comes off easily for removing lint.

I do have a second thought on this dryer though. It looks like it may be an EvenHeat model that used a circuit board in conjunction with the timer. I’ve had experience with several of these and would recommend staying away from it if it is indeed this model.


Post# 1171518 , Reply# 10   2/7/2023 at 13:44 (451 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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The early 60’s Whirlpool built dryers all used a single bearing for the drum and has a Teflon ring at the front that would sit on felt. Whirlpool used rollers in 1966 since that’s when the 29” dryers were redesigned since there were slightly less complex compared the the 1961 to 1965 29” dryers that used a separate belt for the blower and a bearing as well.

Post# 1171521 , Reply# 11   2/7/2023 at 14:34 (451 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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I thought you've already had a matching dryer for your Kenmore 80 Series and you're just looking for the matching dryer for your Kenmore Elite?

Post# 1171527 , Reply# 12   2/7/2023 at 16:15 (451 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN)        
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Good to know. Also which size is the dryer I posted? 27 or 29?

I have a very similar dryer to this, but am looking for something has a few more options on it.


Post# 1171528 , Reply# 13   2/7/2023 at 16:19 (451 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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It’s a 27” dryer, the 29” has the lint filter on top along with air inlet and outlet on the rear bulkhead.

Post# 1171529 , Reply# 14   2/7/2023 at 16:19 (451 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN)        

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Here is closer picture of the control panel.

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Post# 1171531 , Reply# 15   2/7/2023 at 16:22 (451 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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No top filter, 27” dryer.

Post# 1171532 , Reply# 16   2/7/2023 at 17:19 (451 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

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I believe the “Electronic Moisture Sensing” was the predecessor to it being called EvenHeat. While it is purely my opinion from multiple experiences I would not buy this dryer.

Post# 1171533 , Reply# 17   2/7/2023 at 17:22 (451 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

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I failed to see that on the bottom it does say, “exclusive EvenHeat drying system.” The later ones had this on the cycle where this one says, “Electronic Moisture Sensing.”

Post# 1171536 , Reply# 18   2/7/2023 at 18:08 (451 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN)        
circuit board

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Has anyone else experienced the circuit board issue with this machine?

Post# 1171584 , Reply# 19   2/8/2023 at 09:03 (451 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN)        

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Dryer is still available. I don't know guys, I kind of really want this one.

Post# 1171601 , Reply# 20   2/8/2023 at 15:07 (450 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I believe those EvenHeat or auto-sensor boards are NLA (or outrageously expensive if any new-stock are available).  There are used and repaired choices on eBay when I've looked for some of the numbers, and some board-repair services may handle them.


Post# 1171612 , Reply# 21   2/8/2023 at 17:21 (450 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN)        

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Thank you, Glenn. So you would agree with Melvin on it's probably not best to purchase this dryer?

Post# 1171614 , Reply# 22   2/8/2023 at 17:37 (450 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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I wouldn’t get this dryer, a pain to put the belt on the tensioner, has a tendency to ball up blankets and loads of laundry, and the lint filter is kind of awkward to get to compared the the 29” top filter dryers.

That dryer may have a few more features than the current Kenmore 70 series dryer but the features you really need on a dryer is a temperature options and the ability to turn the buzzer on and off and auto dry setting. Your Kenmore 70 series dryer doesn’t have the wrinkle guard feature option but if you want to have a quote on quote “wrinkle guard”, just use the Permanent Press auto dry since it has the cool down feature. Most Kenmore Elite washers sold in the early 2000’s were paired up with 27” dryers since most people bought it as a set but some were paired up with a 29” top filter dryer since they were cheaper or most people preferred the top mounted lint screen which was easier to clean etc. compared to the front mounted lint screen on the 27” dryers with the hamper door which was a little awkward to clean at times compared to the top mounted lint screen on the 29” models.


Post# 1171616 , Reply# 23   2/8/2023 at 18:04 (450 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN)        

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Got it. Thank you all very much for your insight. I will wait until I can find a Kenmore Elite 29" dryer with the top filter.

Post# 1171629 , Reply# 24   2/8/2023 at 18:38 (450 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I wouldn't be afraid of it but $250 seems high unless it really is *pristine* and low-wear on usage history.

My mother had a 1994 KA with board (current) P/N WPW10476828 (don't know if it's the same as EvenHeat), never failed in 18 years of use (sold it).

My 1990/91 KA dryer takes a similiar? board P/N 3398084 which didn't fail for the duration of myself and my grandmother using it.

The model of your consideration isn't stated to determine which board it takes.

You must make your own informed decision.


Post# 1171680 , Reply# 25   2/9/2023 at 07:49 (450 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Whirl pool built 27 inch clothes dryers

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These came out around 1988, Sears really wanted a model that could be vented in four directions and be narrower than the 29 inch machine because they lost sales to GE Frigidaire, etc.

These 27 inch dryers are very well-built in fact of the best built 27 inch dryers ever sold in the US as Dan said even Samsung and LG both copy the basic dryer.

That said the 29 inch dryer is still a superior machine overall the beauty of the 29 inch dryer is the lint filter. It’s the only lint filter that doesn’t make a mess when you clean it because you clean it with the machine running and all that dust goes outside. No other dryer can do that,

The 29 inch dryers also the only dryer that never clogs up the only lint accumulation you ever get in one is a little bit of the filter housing. You can just take a brush while the dryer is running and clean it again the dust goes outside

The 29 inch dryer is the only dryer ever made where the blower never clogs , it has large fins on it that just expel the lint

The 27 inch machines have a lot more trouble with lint because of all the internal ductwork and a much finer closely space blower wheel fins. You have to take them apart regularly and clean them never has to be done on a 29 inch dryer.

A 29 inch dryer Also has a more efficient tumble pattern, the rear to front airflow on the 27 inch dryer tends to go right through the middle of a load things don’t dry as well in many cases

These 27 inch even heat dryers do you have a board that can fail? The board can be rebuilt by course centric‘s, but it is an Extra potential problem, I’d like the models without this board for reliability but the boards don’t fail that often and it may have already been replaced.

John.


Post# 1171688 , Reply# 26   2/9/2023 at 10:49 (450 days old) by ryner1988 (Indianapolis)        
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John, others have told me for years the same as you just said, you can clean the 29 dryer lint filters with the dryer running, but I've never figured out how that helps. Explain it to me like I'm an idiot, because apparently I'm missing something. I still get dust all over my dryer top when I try it that way. Also, I'm not sure how much of the dust would go outside in my case because as we've previously discussed, I have a hella-long lint pipe that has two 90-degree bends and then goes up to the second floor wall that's where the exit point is. I'm not sure why the hell they did that as there's an outside wall right behind the dryer, maybe they want all the dryer vents in my building to terminate at the same location?

Post# 1171695 , Reply# 27   2/9/2023 at 13:35 (449 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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you can clean the 29 dryer lint filters with the dryer running, but I've never figured out how that helps.

 

While the machine is running, a vacuum is present in the filter ductwork and sucks some of the lint away from the being dispersed on the top of the machine. The downside is, the duct work will clog twice as fast using this technique. I can confirm that with experience.


Post# 1171702 , Reply# 28   2/9/2023 at 15:19 (449 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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I think cleaning the lint screen on the 1966 and later Whirlpool 29” dryers only works if the laundry area is located on an exterior wall since there isn’t much of a duct run.

I do advise to NOT clean the lint screen on the 1965 and older Whirlpool 29” dryers or else you’ll have lint flying everywhere and had that happen once with my 1963 Whirlpool Imperial dryer 😂.

Come to think of it, I think the real reason why Whirlpool changed the design in 1966 is they didn’t want their dryers to be known as a S’ Wonderful S’ Marvelous S’ Whirlpool dryer since they tend to accumulate lint inside the cabinet and the area it’s in similar to a NORGE dryer of that era with the positive air flow at the lint screen.


Post# 1171765 , Reply# 29   2/10/2023 at 07:43 (449 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
29 inch whirlpool built dryers

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Hi Ryne, normally when you clean the filter with the machine running, you do it at the beginning or end of the cycle you should be able to feel a fairly strong suction of air when the filter is removed. Some lint will fall on the top of the machine, you just take the back of your hand, and whisk it toward the opening and it will be whisked outside.

 

When the inside of the exhaust duct is dry at the end of the cycle or at the beginning of a load, no lint is going to accumulate inside the ductwork lint sticks together when there’s very humid air going through the exhaust system during the main part of drying clothing.,Just like a vacuum cleaner, hose will not clog with lint in fact, using this filter cleaning technique actually keeps the ductwork cleaner as the particles help loosen other particles and caused them to be discharged,

 

There is such a lack of common sense and engineering in this country. It just amazes me the things I hear either here or on the Internet. People are afraid to use their garbage disposals because they think it will clog drains when in fact, it actually keeps the drain pipes cleaner.

 

They just have no concept of how things work.

 

John.




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Post# 1171795 , Reply# 30   2/10/2023 at 13:45 (448 days old) by ryner1988 (Indianapolis)        
John

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Thanks, I'll try it next time I do laundry.

You don't think my extra long duct work would complicate things then?



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