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Orbital transmission oil & MT Dep Care rebuild
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Post# 1173285   2/27/2023 at 12:11 (431 days old) by lastforever (Ont. Canada)        

Looking for oil? Lubriplate SPO-277 #24713 SAE 140 Mineral Oil (ISO 460)

lubriplate.com -- website for info & purchase if need be. (have to use cross
border shipping address for Canada, will not ship outside of US if ordering
online, there are some Canadian reps in most provinces but will usually not stock
the US qt. bottles so you would have to order a case $$$$$) I called and they confirmed this oil was qualified for the application.
1995 Maytag Dependable Care Washer Mod.# LAT9205AAE (quiet -yes)
Appliance store owner/salesperson/service man said I wouldn't regret buying this
washer. Kind of hard to find this kind of honesty and knowledge in an appliance
show room today.
Some things you take for granted like a washing machine lasting forever (well
almost). After 27 yrs (raising a family of 3 kids) and never having to spend a
nickel on it, it decided that it needed to let me know that is was time for
attention. The sleeve bearing (orbital transmission in tub) lubricant had dried
and gummed up finally bringing the spin cycle to a halt. Wife did mention the
last couple of washes it was starting to protest a bit.
Fearing the worst I started disassembly with the help of some Youtube videos
(the appliance man) and was pleasantly surprised that things came apart fairly
easily (you do need a tub wrench part # TUB123A, can be purchased on Amazon for
less than $30 cdn).Both the basket and tub removal are LEFT HAND thread. Remember
to remove the set screw (T20) in the tub nut.I was still able get all the parts I
needed but a new tub (which I repaired with epoxy) I know, why didn't I just get
a new washer. Have you found anything simple out there and will last 25 yrs plus.
No thanks.
The only thing the orbital transmission needed was the lower seal,cleaning,
lube and a couple of new belts. A few tips for those interested I found from other websites and my own findings are that the Clutch/Brake is a wet clutch (cork bonded to an aluminum hub, use about a tablespoon of the gear oil). Mine is the one that has the eight bolt cover. I have a press so it was easy to disassemble and clean. When the brake is engaged (large pulley counter clockwise) it holds the trans outer case to do the agitation, when the clutch/brake is released the large pulley rotates clockwise, climbs the scroll and releases the outer case to rotate for the spin cycle. The oil cushions the load when the clutch/brake engages/disengages. ( automaticwasher.org post # 553870 gives a good picture and description)
For REMOVAL of the clutch a pair of well placed curved jaw vise grips butted
against one of the bosses on the top side of the clutch and whacked on the side
with a heavy hammer will loosen the clutch. It is a right hand thread (lefty =
loosy). I used a paint pen to mark where ever I needed to line things up.
I used Lubriplate #105 grease (thin enough) to lubricate the new sleeve bearing
and you can use it to lubricate the pulley hub scroll, although I did have some
old Lubriplate in a pint can that was a little thicker to use on the pulley
scroll.
The success of any repair is knowing how it works and this is about as simple a
setup as you can get. (KISS principle -- keep it simple stupid)
Searching for discontinued oil replacement (needs the 140 viscosity for
quietness without the EP additives found in G2>G5 oils) and operational information is what started this post.
If all goes well it will probably out last me.
P.S. - Cost ? For me, $405 cdn txs incl and my time which I enjoyed doing the
job to end up with a near new washer.


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Post# 1173289 , Reply# 1   2/27/2023 at 13:42 (431 days old) by Good-Shepherd (New Jersey)        
needs the 140 viscosity for quietness

Where did you hear MT orbitals need 140 wt. oil?

Factory trans oil were in the 90-100 wt. range. The old oil may seem like 140 wt. but that is due to age.

Sta-Lube GL-4 85-90w oil is safe for MT transmissions.





Post# 1173290 , Reply# 2   2/27/2023 at 14:29 (431 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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Straight 140 is on thick side of the spectrum, if the washer is located inside the home it should be ok but that's too thick if placed in a garage during the winter months.....especially in Canada. I'd stick with 85-140 from Royal Purple since their oil is compatible with yellow metals.



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