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Found! I found this vintage GMH Frigidaire washer!!
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Post# 1175916   3/25/2023 at 00:14 (406 days old) by Smartdrive1100 (Melbourne, Victoria, Australia)        

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After a few years of searching, I finally found a Frigidaire made by GMH, it is just the deluxe model!!

I am so happy to finally get my hand on one of these. It was sitting in a barn for who knows how long so it has its issues and I need help fixing them.

First problem is rust(to be expected) I probably can sort that out on my own


Second issue, it won’t spin, it agitated just fine but spinning it turns a little and the agitator moves a bit but it just stops, seems like a stuck brake from sitting for a while, any help would be appreciated.





Post# 1175922 , Reply# 1   3/25/2023 at 02:25 (406 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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We'll need a model# and year. Frigidaire used 5 different transmission designs.


Post# 1175928 , Reply# 2   3/25/2023 at 04:05 (406 days old) by Smartdrive1100 (Melbourne, Victoria, Australia)        
Whoops, got a bit excited!

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Forgot to mention that, it’s a multimatic.

I did fix it, didn’t need any pulling apart! I noticed the tub had moved a bit from when I turned it on to spin so whilst the motor was humming I spun the tub with my hands and boom! It had freed itself and span up! Was a bit leaky so definitely needs to get the rust sorted…


Post# 1175970 , Reply# 3   3/25/2023 at 06:48 (406 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        

Photo please!

 

My family had one of those when I was a kid - a Deluxe Multimatic with the beige painted dashboard.

 

I'm excited for you.

 

You know these were made at the Holden factory in Dandenong, don't you?


Post# 1176035 , Reply# 4   3/25/2023 at 15:34 (405 days old) by Smartdrive1100 (Melbourne, Victoria, Australia)        
I will post a photo ASAP

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It’s in rough shape sadly but I am so surprised to see that it functions properly!

Do you have any memories that you would be keen on sharing? I was talking to my grandmother about this machine a few years back and she said her mother had one! Apparently it shook the whole house whilst it was washing, lol

I did know that they were made here at the Dandenong plant, shame it no longer exists :(




Post# 1176048 , Reply# 5   3/25/2023 at 17:14 (405 days old) by Smartdrive1100 (Melbourne, Victoria, Australia)        
A bit leaky but it’s mine

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Post# 1176078 , Reply# 6   3/25/2023 at 22:50 (405 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)        

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Thanks for sharing pics.

Post# 1176081 , Reply# 7   3/25/2023 at 23:02 (405 days old) by Washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)        

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Absolutely lovey! Congrats on your amazing find!

Post# 1176087 , Reply# 8   3/26/2023 at 01:16 (405 days old) by Smartdrive1100 (Melbourne, Victoria, Australia)        
Thanks so much everyone

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Just a question and probably more to come


How do I get into one of these? The outer tub is rusted making it leak a fair bit and needs to be repaired, could anyone help me?

Thanks in advance


Post# 1176098 , Reply# 9   3/26/2023 at 07:35 (404 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        
Memories

My memories aren't good, I'm afraid. We had no end of trouble with ours.

It shook the whole house when it was spinning (not washing) to the point it rattled my bedroom windows four rooms away. It was a solid house, my Dad was a carpenter and he built it himself.  Most of the time when it started to spin the clothes would ball up on one side and the tub would clunk clunk clunk against the out of balance switch till it shut off. It drove us mad, it would take several tries to get it spinning most times, and sometimes the motor overload button would cut off before we got it spinning, which meant waiting several minutes for it to cool down before you could press reset and try again. Once you finally got it spinning it would shake the whole house. Dad even tried a 3 or 4 inch thick slab of concrete under the washing machine, to stop it jumping on our timber floor, but it would just walk off the slab and crash into the wall, so that was a bad idea.

 

Yours might not have an out of balance switch, outs had a combined lid/balance switch that stuck out from the back into the opening under the lid, a flat chromed metal arm,  sort of spoon shaped. A finger on the lid poked down to press the "spoon" lever, yours doesn't seem to have the finger on the lid or the "spoon" under it.

 

Eventually ours broke down and was taken away for repair to a Frigidaire agent, all the way from Frankston to Muirs at Airport West. They dismantled it and fully reconditioned it at great expense. We were hoping they would do something to improve its balance, but it was just the same.

 

When I was a teenager I got a part time job after school, saved a little and bought a used GE Filter Flo from the Trading Post for about $25. Mum and I picked it up using her car and Dad's trailer. It was a much better machine.

 

I think your machine is a  bit older than ours, but very similar, maybe yours was one or two years older?? Ours had beige (baby poo brown) dashboard, a chrome strip across the centre with odd "square bow" patterns on it, and more beige paint below the chrome strip.

 

One odd thing, yours says "two speed automatic" on the aluminium strip under the timer. But AFAIK a Deluxe is single speed, it has only one cycle, plus a soak section. The only adjustments are wash time and water temperature. I wonder if the aluminium trim has been replaced on your machine?

 

Good luck with yours.


Post# 1176099 , Reply# 10   3/26/2023 at 07:47 (404 days old) by Smartdrive1100 (Melbourne, Victoria, Australia)        
I wonder if the springs were going on yours

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The odd thing I noticed about the multimatics is that the springs that hold the tub up also seems to put tension on the motor for the belts, maybe yours had some sort of defect from the factory? That would explain why the guys couldn’t repair it

I did notice some sort of dial on the back of the washer that had three wires coming out of it (I’ll post a photo tomorrow) and I though maybe that was the speed selector and you had to set it at the back. It might have a new chrome panel but I’m not too sure as everything seems original.


Thanks for the kind words


Post# 1176100 , Reply# 11   3/26/2023 at 07:48 (404 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        

I have a much older Australian Frigidaire, there is a link below to a photo of it on this website. It has a round body and is manually operated, you fill it from a hose then turn it to "wash" or "spin."

 

I have owned it for quite a few years, unfortunately I stored it a shed away from where we lived for a while and the shed leaked, so it now has some rust on the lower parts. I have now moved it to our new shed and I intend to restore it later this year. It worked very well when I put it in storage, much better than the automatic one we had when I was a kid.

 

I suspect at some time that the Australian-made machines were fitted with a locally sourced motor that didn't suit the application - the old machine builds up spin speed slowly as it pumps out, and it all happens calmly and reliably. I suspect the later machines use a different type of motor that accelerates to spin speed too fast, any slight off-balance goes hysterical and it jumps, bangs and cuts off.

 

I have heard several stories about how bad these 1960s Aussie Frigidaires were at shaking / vibrating on spin, that is my guess why.

 



CLICK HERE TO GO TO gizmo's LINK

Post# 1176101 , Reply# 12   3/26/2023 at 07:57 (404 days old) by Smartdrive1100 (Melbourne, Victoria, Australia)        
Interesting, I’ll need to do a few loads in mind to find out

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I’ve had mine tap the off balance a switch as you can see from the link below but once it got up to speed it was all good, it has a bad spin bearing though so it sounds like a jet (Maytag Neptune flashbacks), so that’ll need attention.

Your older Frigidaire looks really cool, semi automatics are very odd, why couldn’t they have spent the extra few bucks to put a timer in?
Shame to hear it’s rusted, I hope nothing is damaged!


Post# 1176102 , Reply# 13   3/26/2023 at 07:58 (404 days old) by Smartdrive1100 (Melbourne, Victoria, Australia)        
Forgot to post link

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Post# 1176107 , Reply# 14   3/26/2023 at 09:55 (404 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        
Second issue, it won’t spin

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Congrats on your GM/Holden find! It's fascinating to see the hybrid of US inspired parts used on Holden made Frigidaires. The control panel is similar to a 1964 US panel, but the machine top screams 1958 but has a side opening lid, which came out in '60.

Multimatics sadly do not age well and the longer they sit the worse off it can be. With time and moisture intrusion, the brake lining can get stuck to the brake housing, causing catastrophic damage when the machine is put into spin for the first time and the machine attempts to engage the brake. Does the tub coast at all during spin or does it try to start up and eventually the thermal protector in the motor shuts the machine off? Is the motor humming like it's stuck? Can you manually turn the tub by hand clockwise, against the brake?

It is possible to replace the upper bearing without disassembling the entire machine and mechanism. Check out the link below, where I had to change out the upper bearing on the '61 clamshell.

www.automaticwasher.org/c...

The motors on these are also quite special and it appears to be an original GM Delco. The spring attached to the side is the counter balance spring that helps keep the assembly centered and would have no impact on the overall function.

Ben


Post# 1176220 , Reply# 15   3/27/2023 at 02:25 (404 days old) by Smartdrive1100 (Melbourne, Victoria, Australia)        
Thanks Ben

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It is spinning and stopping ok after I gave it help.


I’ve pulled it apart and it’s pretty rusty, I have no welding experience at all but I do know people with welders. What would be the best solution to tackle this with? The rubber ring at the top of the tub is also shot.


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Post# 1176271 , Reply# 16   3/27/2023 at 20:26 (403 days old) by simpsomatic (Melb, Aust-now Palm Springs,US)        
Many moons ago...

I acquired the bottom of the line washer from this offering of blue escutcheons and features from a lineup of four models of automatics and one semi-automatic each with their own identifying model name. Mine was the "Master", single knob, manual fill selected by timer knob (cold water on solenoid, hot water on personal choice with separate fill hose not on solenoid). Fill level completely variable by choice. Soak cycle: Yes. Wash cycle: same as deluxe. Escutcheon plate read two speed automatic as with Deluxe. One wash, one spin. True two speed models showed four speed automatic. On board water heaters was also an option along this speed selector, wash/rinse temps and half load/full load option. All with the cock and ball drain hose for suds saver return. As for transmission I can only vouch for the low end Master model, it did not have the jetcone agitator but the basic black and gray pulsator that was used with the pulsmatic transmission.
Congrats on your find, truly a worthwhile endeavor. One other of our "Aussie" collectors has the semi-automatic from this line up and there is a picture of the day that advertises the top of the line from Frigidaire General Motors Holdens.


Post# 1176272 , Reply# 17   3/27/2023 at 20:37 (403 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

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Absolutely congrats on finding this machine.

Post# 1176278 , Reply# 18   3/27/2023 at 21:25 (403 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Callan,

Thank you for posting the additional photos. It is fascinating to see how these were constructed under the outer cabinet, which is completely foreign to a US made Frigidaire washer. It appears the outer tub is bolted to a frame that looks very similar to a solid tub Norge or Kelvinator frame. How cool!

As for the areas along the upper ridge that have rusted away - there are a few options. You could try using a patching material, say some plastic from a container that is bound for recycling, and trimming a strip to cover the area and using either an RTV or epoxy to fasten it to the outer tub. Or, a filler like JB Weld could be used to build up material that you can then sand down to the contour of the tub.

Lastly, I'd also recommend using an epoxy paint or POR-15 to treat the rust metal. The areas around the bottom rim may be hinting to additional rust on the inside of the tub.

Good luck and I'll be curious which route you end up taking to get this very rare appliance up and running with confidence, again!

Ben



Post# 1177664 , Reply# 19   4/9/2023 at 06:45 (391 days old) by Smartdrive1100 (Melbourne, Victoria, Australia)        
So sorry for late reply.

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I want to thank everyone so much for your input, I really hope this restoration goes well, it’ll be very exciting seeing this washer start pulsating!


I’ll be sure to post updates for everyone!


Take care


Post# 1194052 , Reply# 20   11/22/2023 at 03:04 by Astorobsession (Melbourne Australia )        
Great find!

If you want to sell her at any stage, I’d love to buy it :)


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