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Thread Number: 93854
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
1950 through 1952 whirlpool washer |
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Post# 1185045 7/16/2023 at 18:39 (292 days old) by combo52  (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Todd and I drove up to Pennsylvania today and picked up this beautiful condition. Whirlpool washer
A young couple bought the house that it was installed in 13 years ago and the story was at the old lady who had bought the washer originally was horrified by how much water it used and only use it for a few months, and then went back to her wringer washer. It’s too bad she didn’t spend $15 more and get the suds saver Option She might’ve actually used the machine however it would’ve been long ago worn out in discarded. Thank you Louis for posting this and alerting AW members to it. John | ||
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Post# 1185046 , Reply# 1 7/16/2023 at 18:51 (292 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia) |
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Looks great | ||
| Post# 1185048 , Reply# 2 7/16/2023 at 19:18 (292 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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Post# 1185050 , Reply# 3 7/16/2023 at 19:24 (292 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1185051 , Reply# 4 7/16/2023 at 19:34 (292 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Whirlpool! | ||
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Post# 1185052 , Reply# 5 7/16/2023 at 20:28 (292 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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| Post# 1185062 , Reply# 6 7/16/2023 at 22:41 (292 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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| Post# 1185077 , Reply# 7 7/17/2023 at 02:21 (292 days old) by WaterWitch (Pomona, Calif.) | ||
Congratulations! | ||
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Post# 1185088 , Reply# 8 7/17/2023 at 07:54 (292 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 1185094 , Reply# 9 7/17/2023 at 08:51 (291 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 1185096 , Reply# 10 7/17/2023 at 09:29 (291 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1185162 , Reply# 11 7/18/2023 at 01:01 (291 days old) by Stan (Napa CA) | ||
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| Post# 1185180 , Reply# 12 7/18/2023 at 11:15 (290 days old) by lesto (Atlanta) | ||
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What a great find. I love the red bakelite agitator. Why are the wires hanging from the temp knob? I hope you will do a video of it washing once you get it cleaned up and running. | ||
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Post# 1185191 , Reply# 13 7/18/2023 at 13:39 (290 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i) |
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| Post# 1185192 , Reply# 14 7/18/2023 at 13:50 (290 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
Nice find, John! It’s still amazing what’s out there, wish I had something like this but can’t complain with the machines I have at the moment.
Reply #13: It may need a restoration but since it was only used for a few years, probably just needs a new belt along with a few other small things. I believe these older Whirlpools has some sort of way to lubricate the bearings but I am not certain since I don’t have experience with the earlier Whirlpool built machines. Probably just needs a cosmetic restoration done to it since it a very low mileage machine. | ||
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Post# 1186230 , Reply# 17 7/30/2023 at 01:47 (279 days old) by hydralique (Los Angeles) |
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I love the cabinet on these, with the brightwork and little vertical crease down the front, it makes for a very classy looking appliance. And if the old gal uses a bit of water, well, she's old enough to drink! | ||
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Post# 1186246 , Reply# 18 7/30/2023 at 07:13 (279 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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I’m very late to the party, but congratulations on this fantastic acquisition! Love that agitator.
There was probably more skepticism than we thought back when automatic washers first came into homes long dominated by wringer machines. My mom didn’t think an automatic could clean as well as a wringer washer, so she’d wash and wring a load, then transfer it to the 1960 Kenmore Model 80 and press the Rinse & Spin button. This went on for 2-3 years before she finally let the automatic do its thing. | ||
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Post# 1186287 , Reply# 19 7/30/2023 at 16:42 (278 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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The 1952. Whirlpool washer.
I have not had much time to play with it, it does clean up quite nicely. I started wiping it down. It’s amazing how good the finish is. Jason and I plugged it in the other day. It does run fine. It had a stuck spin plunger. A little shot of oil got that working properly. It has a bad flat spot in the belt and it’s going to need new drain hose as it’s hard and disintegrated.
I think the machine was used a little bit more often than the sellers thought I’m going to take it apart put a new belt in the hose from the base plate to the pump is hard as a rock I do have replacement parts for it. Also, I think I’m gonna end up putting a new spin tube and seals in the machine before trying to use it. Some of you may remember that my former partner, and I repainted a pair of these machines, and John Eichinger in Saint Paul, restore the knobs and the nameplate to look like new. I didn’t really need this washer, but it will probably end up at the museum the washer and gas dryer that I’ve already finished will probably reside here in the axillary laundry room in my basement. John
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| Post# 1186298 , Reply# 20 7/30/2023 at 16:57 (278 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
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Putting last week behind | ||
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Post# 1186330 , Reply# 22 7/30/2023 at 20:15 (278 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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I'm not aware that any early WPs used an electric pump but I imagine someone will clarify if they did. I know that the pump was at one point mounted on a pivot which connected to the agitate cam bar. Early suds models, the pump impeller was designed as bi-directional. The transmission pulley had a groove for the motor belt and also a rubber drive tire below the groove. The pump pulley had a groove and a flat part. Shifting into agitation pivoted the pump so the flat of the pump pulley pressed against the transmission pulley tire so the impeller rotated in "reverse" to suction the saved suds water, although the two-way valve also had to energize into suds return mode for that to occur, thus it didn't perform suds return during normal agitation. The pump pivoted the other way when agitation disengaged so the groove part of the pump pulley contacted the belt for the pump to spin in drain direction, and the suds valve controlled whether the drained water flows to storage or to the standpipe. Non-suds model had an adjustment so the pump pulley didn't contact the transmission pulley. I'll bet a buncha of ya'll didn't know that. ;-) | ||
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Post# 1186356 , Reply# 23 7/30/2023 at 22:48 (278 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Early Belt Dr., Whirlpool water pumps
Glenn’s reply number 22 is an excellent description of how the drain and suds return pump worked on 1954 and 1955 whirlpool in Kenmore belt drive washers.
The reversible pump was only used for two years, before that all belt drive whirlpool washers used the same belt driven drain pump from 1947 through 1953. They did, however, use three different suds return pumps, the very first one was electric. It was a brush type motor. It was all one assembly. The next one was mounted to the rear of the transmission and had a solenoid activated roller that deflected the belt against the pulley. When it was time to return, suds water, the pump only ran, while suds water was being returned to the washer. The next Suds return pump. It was probably only used in 1953 had the solenoid mounted on the pump assembly that again deflected the belt against the pulley to make the pump turn to return suds water. The picture below is a brand new replacement pump, that I purchased new in the 70s it was the primary drain pump for the 1947 through 53 whirlpool belt, automatic washers, this replacement pump even has a plastic pulley which Whirlpool briefly used on all their belt drive pumps in the 70s and then they went back to a steel pulley.
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Post# 1186373 , Reply# 24 7/31/2023 at 05:07 (278 days old) by Waterdrama (Royal Oak, Michigan) |
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Thank you DADoES and Combo52 for your replies to my question. Great explanations and I love the picture. I was always curious why the 1950 Kenmore made that distinct "POP" shifting into neutral-drain, while the next Kenmore we had did not. Did the little door on the side give access to the pump? | ||
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Post# 1186392 , Reply# 25 7/31/2023 at 11:09 (277 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Early whirlpool belt drive suds return pumps
Pictures one and two are the 1953 one year only suds return pump with the solenoid built onto the pump.
Pictures three and four are the 1948 through 52 suds return pump. John | ||
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