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Post# 1185080   7/17/2023 at 04:08 by chetlaham (United States)        

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At first I was upset/surprised by the default low speed first spins in each cycle. Now it seems like Speed Queen 15 seconds into the first spin pauses, starts the motor for 1/2 a second, pauses for 5 more seconds than goes back to low speed.



Huh? Why? Is this intended? I'm confused.



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Post# 1185081 , Reply# 1   7/17/2023 at 05:11 by qsd-dan (West)        

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Motor protection circuit kicked in?

Post# 1185082 , Reply# 2   7/17/2023 at 05:30 by chetlaham (United States)        

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Could be, though I'm leaning toward it being intended since it does it in both cycles exactly after 10-15 seconds of spinning. At the same time, I can't thinking of any gain of stopping and cycling the motor mid spin drain other than some type of overload like binding in the pump.

Post# 1185089 , Reply# 3   7/17/2023 at 08:02 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
Speed Queen

I think you mean Speed Queen. What's with the low speed spin on heavy duty? I like fast speed spin both after main wash and final deep rinse.

Post# 1185093 , Reply# 4   7/17/2023 at 08:40 by chetlaham (United States)        

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My apologies. I fixed the title.



Yes, I like a fast first spin on Heavy and Normal. No slow for me.

Post# 1185119 , Reply# 5   7/17/2023 at 13:20 by Egress (Oregon)        

The display flashes oFlo when the motor shuts off, so maybe it momentarily tripped the overflow switch? not sure.

Post# 1185124 , Reply# 6   7/17/2023 at 13:44 by WindRivers (Wind River Range, WY)        

Reply #5 good catch Marco.

Along with what Marco said, it seems to drain pretty slowly compared to my machine which seems almost instantaneous when the spin starts.

Maybe if it's not draining as it should it causes the water to slosh over as the machine spins up higher triggering the overflow?

I'd probably check the pump.

Post# 1185139 , Reply# 7   7/17/2023 at 19:44 by chetlaham (United States)        

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Ok, yes, I see that now! Wow! I never knew these even sensed an overflow condition.



What would cause this? Could the flood pressure switch simple be set to low? Or is the machine actually spinning to fast?



I'd think, IMO, that even with a slow drain pump the tub should still drag indefinitely at a speed that doesn't cause water to overflow out of the top.

Post# 1185146 , Reply# 8   7/17/2023 at 21:06 by WindRivers (Wind River Range, WY)        

Still appears to me that it is draining very slow, and while the belt is designed to slip, it could still be gaining too much speed before the water has time to go down enough.

So I would still check the pump to make sure it's not partially blocked or just going bad.

Also, speaking of the belt, check that it is indeed the correct belt and not a replacement from an auto parts store or something that's not designed to slip. I understand that may be possible?

In any case the slow drain does concern me. Maybe compare to other videos and see if you agree or if it's just me.

Post# 1185148 , Reply# 9   7/17/2023 at 21:15 by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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The first spin appears to be at low speed, which accounts for the slower draining.

The pause/restart occurs only in the first spin, not in the final spin.

Post# 1185160 , Reply# 10   7/18/2023 at 00:21 by washdaddy (Baltimore)        

the machine is flashing that oFlo msg in the first and second spins the third time the machine drains the msg once again pops up but the machine doesn't stop like it does on the first two

Post# 1185175 , Reply# 11   7/18/2023 at 10:21 by WindRivers (Wind River Range, WY)        

My Speed Queen TC5 also has a slow spin after the wash, it still drains much faster than the one here in the video.

I wouldn't think my machine is special, but I've wondered at the thread that asks why Speed Queen spray rinses when the tub is still full of water. I've watched mine, and the water as far as I can see is in fact drained by the time the spray rinse starts, even with a tub full of water, and that's 30 seconds after the spin starts. Yet around 20 seconds after the spin starts in the video, the water in the tub has barely gone down.

Maybe the faster spin makes the water go down faster than the centrifugal forces the water over the top so it doesn't fault out as much. I don't know, but I still don't believe it is draining right.

Post# 1185177 , Reply# 12   7/18/2023 at 10:29 by WindRivers (Wind River Range, WY)        

Sorry, actually I believe the spray starts 1 minute after the spin starts. But still, the water is completely drained well before then.

Post# 1185179 , Reply# 13   7/18/2023 at 10:50 by WindRivers (Wind River Range, WY)        

Chetlaham, does your old Speed Queen washer drain that slow, even on slow spin?

Post# 1185223 , Reply# 14   7/18/2023 at 21:20 by chetlaham (United States)        
Drain During Slow Speed

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I would say my Speed Queen drains a bit slower than this machine when on low speed, if not equal. And yes, my AWN412SP sprays with the tub still 1/3 full of water on Permanent Press and Delicate with the water level on medium or large.


However, what I notice is the tub spins and accelerates faster during spin-drain where as my machine spins slower during drain, also water doesn't slosh up and down the tub cover like in the video.


I'm now waging a bet the belt isn't slipping enough. 


But I sure do like seeing that enhanced swirl-away drain smile

Post# 1185229 , Reply# 15   7/19/2023 at 00:24 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
not impressed

I am not impressed with the slow spin after the main wash at even on heavy duty. I had a feeling that the motor would cut out in the back of my mind.
What were they thinking? Why did they do that?

Post# 1185231 , Reply# 16   7/19/2023 at 01:13 by chetlaham (United States)        

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The motor should not cut out on a low speed spin-drain. The slip in the belt is supposed to prevent the motor from being overloaded with to much torque. It is physically impossible to spin a tub full of water at 640rpm with a practically sized motor so some type of clutch must be used, be it a shoe/drum or a variably tensioned belt.



However, thats not to say I disagree with you Jerome. I'd absolutely loose my marbles if my Queen spun low speed in the normal cycle. 



I think Speed Queen needs to listen to those posting on this forum.  

Post# 1185244 , Reply# 17   7/19/2023 at 09:43 by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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My guess is that either the wrong belt is on the machine or it's too tight (if there's an adjustment), causing excessive current draw on the motor in a way that's specific to low-speed spin acceleration, if that's a possibility.  The belt on this haul-away machine was bad and replaced before running it, per the video's description.

Post# 1185319 , Reply# 18   7/20/2023 at 01:51 by chetlaham (United States)        

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The belt being changed out for an incorrect version before being filmed would make a lot of sense.

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