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Post# 1188942   8/30/2023 at 21:56 (331 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

It's written by what seems to be a stupid idiot who says she has never sorted laundry in her life so I don't know if this review is worth anything, but they are an expensive pair of machines so information about them is worth something.

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Post# 1188961 , Reply# 1   8/31/2023 at 09:20 (330 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
shoving everything into a single load

What's with people shoving everything into 1 load without sorting? It really drives me insane! What is wrong with these people?
Some people are just too stupid to be doing laundry! SMH! And yet they wonder why their laundry doesn't smell clean. Gee! I wonder why? People these days just expect to cram everything in and run it on cold and speed wash, and then they will claim the machine is broken.




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Post# 1188971 , Reply# 2   8/31/2023 at 13:33 (330 days old) by angus (Fairfield, CT.)        

Hmm... what exactly is a 'bespoke" washer and dryer? That seems to be the word of the year. Around here, a new veterinary clinic just opened and allegedly provides "bespoke" care for the animals. And as far as laundry, people are actually getting dumber and dumber about a very basic task. And maybe that's the issue - no one these days wants to do the necessary but mundane tasks well since everyone is so busy "changing the paradigm" (another phrase I hate) or otherwise being very important... Oh, well....

Post# 1188981 , Reply# 3   8/31/2023 at 15:01 (330 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
bespoke

What does bespoke even mean? Why is this society so stupid when it comes to laundry? Why do they KEEP CRAMMING everything into a single load?

Post# 1188983 , Reply# 4   8/31/2023 at 15:26 (330 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Bespoke = (a) custom-made; (b) dealing in or producing custom-made articles.

Samsung is using it as a marketing label for a line of kitchen and laundry appliances and stick vacuums.

Definition of bespoke at Merriam-Webster online


Post# 1188984 , Reply# 5   8/31/2023 at 15:34 (330 days old) by seedub (South Texas Hill Country)        

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Definitely an overused term, along with "artisan."

--Chris


Post# 1188985 , Reply# 6   8/31/2023 at 15:36 (330 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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There’s nothing ‘bespoke’ about modern appliances. It’s just another way these appliance tycoons ‘put lipstick on the pig’ to appeal to consumers who don’t know any better.

Post# 1189016 , Reply# 7   8/31/2023 at 21:29 (330 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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With Samsung having the worst reliability out there in appliance-ville, I would greatly caution those who would be interested in purchasing them. They are also a headache to deal with warranty issues but that's pretty much across the board these days. Absolutely nobody cares about customer service anymore.

 

Yes, front loader users are overall very poor at separating laundry since their large drums are very enticing to throw everything in one load using one temperature (usually cold water) then complain about mold and mildew issues soon after.


Post# 1189036 , Reply# 8   9/1/2023 at 01:09 (329 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Large capacity machines in general are for people who are lazy. Many folks would complain my Whirlpool has a small capacity and to a degree it does however, I usually separate all my shirts from my shorts, to underwear and socks etc. and never have issues with anything. Even if I were to throw everything in so to speak, it would only equate to an extra large load in my Maytag A806 and A606. Definitely can squeeze just a tad more stuff in with the dual action load sensor agitator, but even then a weeks worth of my laundry isn’t all that much. Only reason why I separate everything is my shorts and socks get quite dirty from yard work every evening since I live on a acre of land compared to my shirts, if I were to throw everything in, wouldn’t end up with laundry that’s properly cleaned since it would be a little itchy afterwards.

Post# 1189044 , Reply# 9   9/1/2023 at 03:17 (329 days old) by Aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Just to mention it’s not just FL users overloading machines it’s also TL users too thank you very much qsd-Dan.

The posts on here from one person are getting very tiring. Repeating the same crap over and over again on this forum isn’t going to change millions of people attitudes worldwide.

I’m also sick of these people being branded as lazy. It’s becoming used as frequently now as the term eco n*** and frankly it seems to be grossly unfair and vulgar.

I think a few people here need to educate themselves (Sean and Gerome) and realise we are only on this planet for a poxy 90 years if we are lucky. Life is precious. If you don’t enjoy doing laundry you are not going to spend time doing it. Period. Kids whining on this forum ain’t gonna change that either. Sean and Gerome need to get over it.

People now also have to work long hours just to provide housing food and comfort for themselves while still
Trying to enjoy the time they have on this planet. So what if they need a large capacity machine. It means they can do something they enjoy better with the time they save.

Guys you seriously need to get a grip. It’s not all about you.



Post# 1189045 , Reply# 10   9/1/2023 at 04:29 (329 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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I was reading some comments on a washer video and a lady said she's had her Samsung FL washer for 9 years and it's still working and she hasn't had issues. I responded to her and got the vibe that she knew how to do laundry..didn't overload and used hot water at times, left the door open, etc..

It made me wonder of a certain percentage (maybe a large percentage) of failure rates could be caused by users? Take the mold problems that took over the internet..we all know that's user error... Look how many there were and still are..I almost feel like there are actually a larger percentage of people that don't know how to do laundry properly than do... I could be wrong. But it wouldn't surprise me. And when you add to that that they make machines so much more cheaply now..depending on which side you're on... that could speed up or slow down failure..

I wondered too what Bespoke meant...I thought figured it was some marketing term like eco bubble.


Post# 1189052 , Reply# 11   9/1/2023 at 08:44 (329 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
just don't get it

I just don't get it. People still chase after the "latest and greatest", only to find out the hard way that it's not what it really is.

Post# 1189053 , Reply# 12   9/1/2023 at 08:50 (329 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
doing laundry

Even if I had a large tub, I'd still sort the laundry properly according to color, fabric, and soil. Sean A806, I agree with you. College students and the masses don't give a damn about laundry. Anybody can say whatever they'd like, but I stand by my statement. Why? Because I know how laundry should and shouldn't be done. Shoving everything in leads to failure. Not fabric softener, not laundry detergent, OVERSTUFFING THEM! Oh, and let's not forget about poor maintenance habits. Don't even get me started, or I will go on. Leaving the door shut after washing, leaving wet clothes inside, on and on. The way I see it, this new stuff causes more and more people to become lazy and stupid. Say whatever you'd like, but I call these things like I see them. Off my soapbox.



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Post# 1189068 , Reply# 13   9/1/2023 at 12:22 (329 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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I think you need to get a grip. Every time you post, you always snap and are combative towards others, probably have done that 2,825 times by the looks of it.

You need to get over being so combative and condescending towards others, if you don’t like it, tough.


Post# 1189069 , Reply# 14   9/1/2023 at 12:26 (329 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
Re: being combative

I agree with Maytag85. I call things as I see it. If you don't like it, too bad! I can beat a dead horse until I turn blue in the face.

Post# 1189082 , Reply# 15   9/1/2023 at 13:53 (329 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington NC)        

Jerome! Just reported you to Robert! Your lack of civility and and your nasty attitude is oppressive! Blocking you too! Greg

Post# 1189083 , Reply# 16   9/1/2023 at 13:59 (329 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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If you don’t stop reporting people for no reason, Robert may end up banning you since you are wasting his time. My advice is just to ignore Jerome and go about your business.

Post# 1189085 , Reply# 17   9/1/2023 at 14:09 (329 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington NC)        

Blocking you too Sean! Such a lack of maturity!

Post# 1189087 , Reply# 18   9/1/2023 at 14:21 (329 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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You have a lack of maturity by being combative and argumentative. If you don’t want younger people to say “Ok boomer” then quit acting like the stereotypical boomer who likes to be combative towards others and have this “I am older than you are, so I know more than you” attitude. Not picking on anyone, it’s just the truth and what I see.

Post# 1189093 , Reply# 19   9/1/2023 at 15:21 (329 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
blocking people

To Luxflairguy, you have absolutely NO RIGHT to block people for no reason. Just because Sean and I may be young, doesn't mean we are not gonna tolerate being blocked for no reason. We live in a time where people don't care or know about laundry, and we call things as we see them. If you don't like our opinions, just move on! And we are not gonna follow the trend of bigger is better because it's not the case. Everything is built to break including these Samsung so-called Bespoke whatever that means. There are gonna be failures down the road and more consumer complaints based on the patterns we see. We call them as we see them. Learn to be CIVIL!

Post# 1189174 , Reply# 20   9/2/2023 at 15:31 (328 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
Samsung so-called "bespoke"

What is so "bespoke" about these machines? This is just marketing. The average consumer is so stupid that when they get these machines, and they see how big it is, they always cram everything in to the point to where nothing even moves. Then to top it all off, they just leave the door closed, encouraging mold and mildew buildup. I see failures coming down the road within the next 5 years. SMH. This cycle never ends, EVER! Does Samsung and others think we're stupid? Well, I'm not falling for any of it. I'm not convinced these are revolutionary. Most of everybody has a smart dispenser in them on the high end.

Post# 1189205 , Reply# 21   9/3/2023 at 07:05 (327 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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Well Well Well.. Would you just look at this wash action? I don't think this is a Bespoke but it's called Samsung FlexWash...I think all that means is that it's one of those Front load washers with an extra washer...although the small washer isn't in this video. I couldn't believe the wash action...strong recirculation... interim spins, long spray rinses...LOTS of water... I know Samsung has different FL models so not sure all of them operate this way... but if they do...this was crazy...possibly even better than LG turbo wash.

I usually don't even bother clicking on any Samsung washer but I was curious becuase of the title and the thumbnail.


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Post# 1189225 , Reply# 22   9/3/2023 at 18:21 (327 days old) by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington)        

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mark, you need to understand that the user used the bedding cycle, which uses a lot more water, just like LG bedding cycle does the same thing. There may be a few minor differences, but the Protocall is the same.
You could not give me a Samsung washing machine, I'd take a Electrolux front loading machine any day before a Samsung, of any style they make. I don't care for their quality.


Post# 1189231 , Reply# 23   9/3/2023 at 19:29 (327 days old) by RyneR1988 (Indianapolis)        

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Samsung incorporates ADA accessibility out of the box on their washers and dryers. There are dots on the control panels so the user can get around the touch screen buttons, as well as different tones to denote options such as temperature, spin speed, or soil level changes. However, Samsung isn't reliable enough for me to consider them as an option otherwise, which is a pity because as a blind consumer, the accessible controls would be a real benefit to me. No other manufacturer includes this as far as I am aware.

Ryne


Post# 1189232 , Reply# 24   9/3/2023 at 19:39 (327 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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I don't understand why they make such shitty appliances when some of their other stuff isn't that bad.

Post# 1189233 , Reply# 25   9/3/2023 at 19:48 (327 days old) by RyneR1988 (Indianapolis)        
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I've wonder the same thing Mark, we've had a Samsung TV for eight trouble-free years with no issues.

Come to think of it though, my wife had a Samsung computer several years ago and hated it. Thing was always crashing.

So I guess it's just a crapshot with that brand.

Ryne


Post# 1189242 , Reply# 26   9/3/2023 at 21:48 (327 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
samsung

Samsung, stick to electronics, please!

Post# 1189272 , Reply# 27   9/4/2023 at 12:04 (326 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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They could, however when you are a large corporation, gotta make other products so the dollars roll in and make the CEO and shareholders happy. If corporate greed weren’t a thing, things would be quite different.

Post# 1189282 , Reply# 28   9/4/2023 at 13:23 (326 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
corporate greed

It just goes to show that corporate greed ruins everything. Just look at how cheaply everything's built.

Post# 1191608 , Reply# 29   10/9/2023 at 12:32 (291 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
electronic failures

I see electronic failures coming down the pipe, especially after a huge thunderstorm. These are just simply copycat machines.

Post# 1208042 , Reply# 30   6/24/2024 at 17:36 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
AI

What's with the STUPID AI in this laundry set? I don't need any of this. Gee some people are not gonna learn. It's like we've turned into a society of stupid dolts. God, help us. I am the one doing my laundry, and I don't need the washer to tell me what cottons feel like. That's what touch is for! This society seems to be becoming more and more stupid EVERY SINGLE YEAR! It just blows me away. SHEESH!

Post# 1208083 , Reply# 31   6/25/2024 at 17:26 by kalanikaau1 (Honolulu, Hawaii)        
‘put lipstick on the pig’

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I could have not said it better or more accurately!

Pity the unsuspecting and uninformed consumer to fall for such con artist tactics, however there is no excuse to fall prey, given the amount of information available on the internet.

I, and no doubt all the members of this forum know better, I absolutely refuse to be duped by their $1K words, "Bespoke" being one of them.


Post# 1208088 , Reply# 32   6/25/2024 at 17:48 by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Bespoke is largely an aesthetics/style thing.  Consumers who want it will buy them, it's their choice.


Post# 1208114 , Reply# 33   6/26/2024 at 09:07 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
bespoke laundry

I mean, what's so bespoke about laundry? I think the people who hate doing laundry just wants to shove everything into the machine without a second thought and put it on AI then they'll complain about why their whites look dingy, dresses are torn, and why the washer has mold in it. Then they'll sue the manufacturer. This is absolutely stupid. You can't fix stupid.
Why do I need a huge tub? And you know the washer won't last and neither will the dryer. Can anybody see what's wrong here? Oh, and we know they'll use cheap detergent and a tiny amount with cold water on the express cycle even if they're severely stained. What am I missing?


Post# 1208120 , Reply# 34   6/26/2024 at 11:04 by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Jerome, bespoke means customized or made-to-order, traditionally referring to clothing tailor-made to order for a specific customer.  Samsung's Bespoke line of appliances is primarily kitchen items, such as refrigerators that can be customized with different door panels.

What you're missing is that it's a sales marketing angle, a line of aesthetically sleek-looking appliances, with a washer and dryer included in the line to cover all the kinds of appliances that a customer would buy.

How is it different from, for example, Sears' Lady Kenmore marketing?  Or GE Americana?

Your rant above can be applied to users of all brands of laundry appliances, and AI has no relation to it.  Why are you claiming it's unique to Samsung Bespoke?




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Post# 1208125 , Reply# 35   6/26/2024 at 11:46 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
samsung and others

To me, it seems that Samsung and others have jumped on the AI bandwagon to appeal to the masses who are too stupid and dumb to know how to do laundry properly. You would think that if there's something "bespoke" about these washers and dryers, they'd stand out from the rest in terms of durability and reliability. And yet people just want to cram everything into the machine causing their dirty clothes to become more dirtier when they mix everything in a single load even when they're downright dirty.
How hard is it to sort laundry and do things right even if it took hours or days? I'd rather take my time and do it right the first time. Geez! It just takes away freedom for people like us to choose how we want to do laundry. AI isn't unique to Samsung. LG has gotten on the bandwagon too. No thank you! Just wash and dry my damn clothes! I decide what settings to use and I determine how I wash them. It's like saying, you're stupid so I'll figure out your cottons which is what the machine says. This isn't rocket science! AI... Give me a break! Too many of the masses want flashy designs instead of clean laundry. Me personally, I don't care if the washer and dryer is ugly or "dull looking". I want it to wash and dry right with a durable, extra heavy design I.E. Speed Queen Classic. Too many fall for it hook, line, and sinker. Oh well, we tried to tell them for years. They just don't care!


Post# 1208135 , Reply# 36   6/26/2024 at 12:59 by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Jerome, why don't you just not buy a Samsung Bespoke washer and dryer and ignore people who do?  Your life will be fraught with much less distress and anger.


Post# 1208139 , Reply# 37   6/26/2024 at 13:13 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
samsung so-called bespoke

I wouldn't buy one, not even for my worst enemy. But, just hearing about these machines appealing to the masses just kills me especially about how they treat them. If I live in the past by buying and using Speed Queen Classic, so be it. There's nothing cool about these Samsung machines. Stay with electronics. Samsung and LG, I'm talking to you!

Post# 1208142 , Reply# 38   6/26/2024 at 14:08 by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)        

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Talk to them and stop ranting how everyone is STUPID but you to AW. We are sick of hearing it over and over.

Post# 1208143 , Reply# 39   6/26/2024 at 14:28 by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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“Talk to them and stop ranting how everyone is STUPID but you to AW. We are sick of hearing it over and over”

Couldn’t have said it any better @ wayupnorth. I think we need to be a little more reserved in terms of how much we post here on the site, if there’s a thread that all catches our interest in terms of finding something NOS of course, but if it’s mundane threads, no sense in making a bunch of posts. The more you post, the higher probability you will get into arguments or push people away.


Post# 1208146 , Reply# 40   6/26/2024 at 14:38 by RyneR1988 (Indianapolis)        
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I agree with this Sean. I for one am a little put off to get on here and find a thread from 15 years ago at the top of the page. I do look at old threads occasionally, because I find the discussions fascinating or perhaps they might hold information I need, but I don't revive them. I don't know, it just feels like poor form to me. If I really need to ask a question about something in an old thread, I'll just make a new one of my own. It's more likely to catch people's attention that way. It also won't deter people from interacting with me in my experience.

Post# 1208232 , Reply# 41   6/27/2024 at 12:41 by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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On occasion, I’ll revive a thread in the archives but if there’s no interest, won’t continue to post in said thread to catch attention. If no one’s interested, will just let it disappear into to abyss.

On the other hand, it’s interesting to see how much wisdom I’ve gained since this thread was originally created in August of 2023.

Funny how I “lack maturity” according to a reply to this thread last year, while said person is acting like a combative 12 year old, guess that’s what happens when the fountain of youth is on E.

Things really do change in 10 months time these days.


Post# 1208234 , Reply# 42   6/27/2024 at 13:16 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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I just simply blocked Jerome, made my visits on this site alot better since then:)


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