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Vintage RCA/Whirlpool "Super Wash" Washer & Westinghouse Dryer |
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Post# 1189623   9/8/2023 at 16:46 (233 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 1189625 , Reply# 1   9/8/2023 at 17:12 (233 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Post# 1189626 , Reply# 2   9/8/2023 at 17:19 (233 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 1189627 , Reply# 3   9/8/2023 at 17:26 (233 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Was offered by WP until rather recently or still for all one knows.
Had a vintage WP compact "Portable/Convertible" washer in lovely Harvest Gold that had super wash cycle. WP offered (or still offers) Super Wash on both one and two speed washers. www.whirlpool.com/content... |
Post# 1189629 , Reply# 4   9/8/2023 at 18:03 (233 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Whirlpool may have given people more for their money, however certain components were under-built on purpose such as the timer cam assembly, outer tub which would rust through causing a leak, pumps that would go out every 10 years (though some can be oiled to prevent that), plungers on the wig wag which would either to cause it to not engage or would stay engaged and wouldn’t disengage, bearings that would wear out since they didn’t invest a few more dollars in using needle bearings which would have lasted significantly longer, last but not least is the center post seals that would fail on the short center post on the 1978 to 1986 belt drive machines.
On the other hand, a transmission on a Whirlpool could be removed easily for a tear down for either an oil change or replacing the shift fork assembly or springs inside the transmission. The whole machine could be easily disassembled for repairs or a rebuild so I guess there’s that. |
Post# 1189633 , Reply# 5   9/8/2023 at 18:58 (233 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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Post# 1189638 , Reply# 6   9/8/2023 at 19:50 (233 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 1189639 , Reply# 7   9/8/2023 at 19:53 (233 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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I know Maytag had 2 speed motors by at least 1957, I don't believe any of the AMP's had 2 speed motors. Wouldn't be surprised if GE and Whirlpool/Kenmore had them several years earlier.
Nice thing about Maytag is the compatibility of motors during the entire 50 year helical design. I found an early 60's Frigidaire 2 speed motor made for early Maytag washers mounted on a late 1980's A712. Their 1 and 2 speed motors are swappable from the 50's until 2006 and everywhere in between. |
Post# 1189644 , Reply# 8   9/8/2023 at 20:09 (233 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Going by posts in forum archives Maytag seemed to be all over the place with regards to two speed motors.
Their most common ploy (which really was a shame as it reeked of cheaping out) was to advertise several cycles but washer only had a motor with one speed. Thus say "delicates" was really nothing more than regular agitation with periods of pauses. www.automaticwasher.org/c... www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/... |
Post# 1189646 , Reply# 9   9/8/2023 at 20:27 (233 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Thus say "delicates" was really nothing more than regular agitation with periods of pauses.
Those were the Fabrimatic washers. It does work, but a 2 speed motor is a better overall deal.
Whirlpool probably had more 2 speed washers than anymore out there. Maytag was kind of skimpy on those but even the lowly 200 series had a 2 speed motor. GE had a few more 2 speed options but nothing close to Whirlpool/Kenmore. |
Post# 1189648 , Reply# 10   9/8/2023 at 20:48 (233 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1189680 , Reply# 11   9/9/2023 at 13:14 (232 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Whirlpool in Kenmore both had two speed washers by 1955, Maytag also had a two speed washer in the AMP machine actually had a couple of them the model A102P was a two speed motor as was the A140 AMP style mechanism,
Whirlpool made even more basic two speed washers than the one posted by laundress for sale, whirlpool, often put a two speed motor on a very basic model to draw people into the store used call this a bait and switch we used to call that machine and nail down because the salesman was not supposed to sell it. It was supposed to stay on the sales floor lol [ see the picture of the day, 9-9-23 ]
Hi Sean,in your reply number four, almost nothing in your first paragraph is correct whirlpool used the same type of timers that Maytag and everybody else did except GE and did not have trouble with cams.
Needle bearings were not used by anybody and would not of lasted as long as sleeve bearings. When whirlpool went to the lower center post in 1978 bearing problems completely disappeared because they added a second seal. On the older machines with one top seal the bearings would often last barely 8 years before the bearings were toast and the machine needed to be replaced or totally rebuilt.
There were very few problems with the plungers and wigwag mechanism, except for an occasional coil failure
John This post was last edited 09/09/2023 at 13:58 |
Post# 1189705 , Reply# 12   9/9/2023 at 17:29 (232 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 1189707 , Reply# 13   9/9/2023 at 17:54 (232 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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A good era for Whirlpool style. Chrome, angled panel with strong horizontal lines. Lots of sparkle for the money.
I brought home a WP washer and WH dryer set this last spring. Have done little with the washer but have spent a day or so working on the dryer. It's a (s)low-airflow, fluffy soft dryer.
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Post# 1189708 , Reply# 14   9/9/2023 at 18:09 (232 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 1189709 , Reply# 15   9/9/2023 at 18:18 (232 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1189713 , Reply# 16   9/9/2023 at 19:47 (232 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Bob, those were in the line for a short time in the mid/late 1960s. There's a PotD of a multi-model brochure of the LSA (1968) series with an Imperial 90 thusly featured. Greg's model is probably 1967? The later direct-drive models with Super Wash on the timer don't all have the true Super Wash sequence of brief soak, partial drain, and refill. I have a 2002/2003 that labels Super Wash at the maximum 16-mins time with nothing otherwise different. It has a separate Soak/Prewash cycle. |
Post# 1189714 , Reply# 17   9/9/2023 at 19:51 (232 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 1189719 , Reply# 18   9/9/2023 at 22:32 (232 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1189777 , Reply# 19   9/10/2023 at 20:43 (231 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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I like the Coppertone set too--the washer and dryer combo I'd get if I were of appliance buying age then...
And why didn't Whirlpool keep the separate wash/spin speeds not to mention the console light and dial light as well? Surely I'd get that Benton Harbour plant making mostly the Whirlpool-branded machines! Back to the advertised set, that nice washer seems to boast all but the Magic Clean filter... And not a true two-speed either... -- Dave |
Post# 1189781 , Reply# 20   9/10/2023 at 22:14 (231 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Dave, the washer of the sale linked in the opening post, photos of which Greg captured in Reply 14, absolutely is a true 2-speed. [Super Wash] Normal and Gentle cycles. Two more photos I saved from the sale. |
Post# 1189789 , Reply# 21   9/11/2023 at 00:03 (230 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 1189793 , Reply# 22   9/11/2023 at 06:36 (230 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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re: DaDoES, yes you're right, something here confused me about intermittent delicate action, referring to another machine a model or two or so down...
- Dave This post was last edited 09/11/2023 at 10:00 |