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Thread Number: 94421
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
LGWM3900 Washer Rec. Settings & Water Level |
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Post# 1190861 , Reply# 1 9/29/2023 at 13:02 (211 days old) by appnut  (TX) |
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Post# 1190870 , Reply# 3 9/29/2023 at 13:52 (211 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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I'll give you another hin. Add 4-6 cups of water to the tub before you add garments for the load. that will "trick" the machine into thinking it's a huge load and adds additional water per fill. I do this when I use Normal and Heavy Duty in particular. Also Whites. Adding the water doubles ewach rinse cycle and can increase final spin time. As example, Whites rinse cycles is 2 minutes after it finishes adding water, will end up being 4 minutes. On Normal, each 1 minute rinse is doubled to 2 minutes after it finishes filling.
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Post# 1190872 , Reply# 4 9/29/2023 at 14:33 (211 days old) by RyneR1988 (Indianapolis) |
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| Post# 1190905 , Reply# 7 9/29/2023 at 21:26 (211 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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| Post# 1191028 , Reply# 8 10/1/2023 at 09:04 (210 days old) by jbrady3324 (Evanston) | ||
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I am going to try the water hack. Should I be concerned about settings like Towel using too much water after the hack? Are there any powders formulated to remove pills? | ||
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Post# 1191029 , Reply# 9 10/1/2023 at 09:19 (210 days old) by rinso (Meridian Idaho) |
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I can't tell if you have a front- or top-loader LG. My top-loading LG also causes pills on synthetic and cotton knit shirts. I found that if I turn them inside-out before tossing them into the washer and dryer, the pilling is reduced significantly. They seem to get clean anyway. | ||
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Post# 1191032 , Reply# 10 10/1/2023 at 10:32 (209 days old) by Logixx (Germany) |
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Miele make Cotton Repair capsules that are supposed to be used on a long, warm cycle. Essential an cellulase enzyme soak. Don't know how effectively it would work in an American washer, unless you can get a wash for about an hour or two maintained around 100F. Being Miele, it's also $23 for three capsules.
Personally, I'm a big fan of these lint or fuzz shavers. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Logixx's LINK | ||
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Post# 1191035 , Reply# 11 10/1/2023 at 11:40 (209 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 1191036 , Reply# 12 10/1/2023 at 11:41 (209 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 1191047 , Reply# 13 10/1/2023 at 15:35 (209 days old) by jbrady3324 (Evanston) | ||
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I have a front loader. I just completed the water adjustment “hack”. Super easy to do. Very happy with the results in terms of increased water level. Have not tested washing clothes yet. | ||
| Post# 1191050 , Reply# 14 10/1/2023 at 16:34 (209 days old) by jbrady3324 (Evanston) | ||
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Decoydriveboy Water Hack I adjusted the screw about 1.5-2 turns. The water level during the wash cycle is below the door gasket by a good 1-2 inches. However the rinse cycle is above the door gasket. Have you observed the same? | ||
| Post# 1191079 , Reply# 15 10/2/2023 at 02:13 (209 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Well that's what great about LG front loaders is that they use MORE water to rinse than they do to wash...and I don't think a lot of people realize this because most people don't watch their machine do it's thing...I think they see the wash and quickly assume that's the max fill for every fill.
I've seen some videos of cycles of LG front loaders using A LOT of water in the rinse and that wasn't adjusted at all by the user... so if someone adjusts it they need to keep that in mind. Washes will be higher... but rinses will be even higher than that. I wish I could remember the video I saw of the guy sitting in front of his washer. I think it was bedding. And it went into rinse and the water was getting really deep and he's like "Wow... enough water already".. so it was even using TOO much without being adjusted at all. I think it was one of the square door model LG's. When I watched Eugene's video about adjusting the water level, he said to make sure you give a reference point so you know exactly where it was originally if you're not happy with it.. I think Eugene adjusted his LG water level because it didn't have turbo wash. I feel like I remember him mentioning that he didn't think you needed to adjust it at all with models that have turbo wash. | ||
| Post# 1191130 , Reply# 17 10/2/2023 at 16:13 (208 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Long term wear: One of the giveaways is if you notice less or more lint on the dryer lint screen. When I got my duet FL back in 2005... I remember that's one of the first things that struck me...way less lint on the dryer lint screen. I really don't think that should be an issue. I've never noticed pilling but I always use the dryer.
I wonder what just 1/2 turn would do... I'm really cautious after I tried this with my duet years ago before putting it back. It's sort of given me PTSD when it comes to adjusting them because here's what happened when I tried to do it. Hopefully this wasn't the case with yours I turned the screw like a quarter turn...checked the level and I saw zero difference... another quarter...same... another... same...I was following the exact instructions online...after doing this a few times a change started to happen...the water wouldn't stop filling until it was 1/2 up the door... there was no in between.. It was all or nothing. So I moved it back and never messed with it again...I remember when I got it back I was praying things would go back and I hadn't screwed something up royally. I was so afraid I ruined my machine. It sounds like these are totally different...Do you remember how this worked? Say, when you were adjusting it.. did you just turn the screw all the way around right out of the gate? Or just a little at a time? I wonder if moving it a little at a time makes a difference or do you have to at LEAST turn it one full rotation? For me personally, I would only want about a gallon more per fill. No more than that. | ||
| Post# 1191193 , Reply# 20 10/3/2023 at 15:32 (207 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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OK, so as you did half turns only... did you see a difference with each turn? Slight as it may have been?
anyway - while waiting for your answer (since I don't own an LG) I would venture to say water above the gasket is too much. If you're watching it wash (keep in mind different load sizes might behave differently with more water...if you're seeing lifting and dropping that's good. If you're seeing rolling as it tumbles... it's too much... I don't know about the temp. I would say turning the screw adding more water than what the machine is spec'd for... maybe it's more difficult to maintain or heat? I don't know. I just guessing. Hopefully someone will answer | ||
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Post# 1191218 , Reply# 22 10/3/2023 at 21:22 (207 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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The only way you're really going to know if your clothes are coming out cleaner or not is to do it scientifically by washing identical articles with the identical amount of the same top quality detergent and the same identiccal stains at both the factory setting and your "upgraded" water levels. Otherwise it can be discounted as wishful thinking etc.
The other thing to think about is that HE washers along with HE detergents are designed to get the best cleaning performance at the factory set levels. The detergents alone are super concentrated and should work their best at their highest concentration amounts, adding more wash water is just going to dilute them and they may not perform as well in lifting soil in the same amount of wash time. So long as they lift the soils from the fabric at the factory set wash levels the increased water in the rinse should wash all the soil away, that's probably why the rinse level is higher than the actual washing level. Anyways, just my two cents. | ||
| Post# 1191224 , Reply# 23 10/3/2023 at 22:58 (207 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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I feel like I mostly agree with that...Wash levels definitely are better low... rinses not so much... which I why I like LG because rinses are higher... they may be higher in other machines I just haven't noticed...with LG it's a noticeable difference.
Anyway - about the factory tests/ set water levels.. I understand what you're saying but I sometimes feel like they have to "compromise" to achieve energy standards... so a little more water might be better...even though it's not scientific... That's totally a guess on my part though. If I had a brand new LG with turbo wash right now... I do not think I personally would mess with it...but I do love knowing that if I ever needed to I could. I think the 50 to 75% would be the MAX I would turn it if I did it.. People have done this for years with their LG's.. I've read comments of videos to adjust water levels and many say they did it YEARS ago and never regretted it. I wish I could remember an article I was reading about the appliance manufacturers complaining about how the energy standards for water use is too stringent and at some point they are not going to work properly..something along those lines... I wish I could find it. It's funny... I can watch laundromat videos and I'm still seeing (in 2023) water half way up the glass door.. I guess they are exempt. | ||
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Post# 1191229 , Reply# 24 10/4/2023 at 07:27 (207 days old) by Logixx (Germany) |
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This whole adding water business is interesting. If I tried that on my Duet, the opposite would happen: the washer has a flowmeter to detect the amount of water absorbed and thus calculates how much water (a certain percentage) is added on top for the rinses. Manually adding water before the sensing is done, results in poor rinsing.
There's also a digital pressure sensor but I've never messed with it in 12 years of ownership. | ||
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Post# 1191237 , Reply# 25 10/4/2023 at 09:45 (207 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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Even though many have done it (increased the water level) for years and manufacturers feel it's a compromise does not mean that doing so would increase the washers performance. It can also mean that they want to cater to the consumers misperception that the more water they can visually see during the wash cycle means it's going to wash better. Just like the detergent manufacturers themselves know that lotsa suds does not improve washing performance but consumers think so. This mispercention is probably from the pre detergent days when more washing soaps were used and has since carried on. Therefore they add sudsing agents to their detergents,, well at least with the powdered ones for regular top loaders. They've done it for decades
As for "many people" have increased the water level.. not likely when you consider the tens of thousands of washers sold each year.. probably not even 1 or 2 percent | ||
| Post# 1191663 , Reply# 29 10/10/2023 at 00:38 (201 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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If this hack causes cold water fills unless extra hot is selected, count me out..
I'm trying to understand how more water in the wash can cause the odor to go away vs the non-hack. Either way you've got soaking dripping wet laundry...the only difference is the detergent is now even more diluted. I would think if someone smells really bad a soak cycle would be in order. Low water washes do not bother me....as long as the rinses use plenty of water... I can see how that would be an issue with pet hair or something...but even that could be minimized with the deeper rinses. | ||
| Post# 1191664 , Reply# 30 10/10/2023 at 00:43 (201 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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