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Thread Number: 94466
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New Speed Queen 7009 Front-Load Washer & Companion Dryer |
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Post# 1191317 10/5/2023 at 19:00 (205 days old) by Frigilux  (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Although satisfied with my 2017 SQ 9-Series top-loading pair, I’ve always preferred front-loaders. Took the plunge this week and purchased the SQ 7009 washer and a companion dryer. I opted for the pedestals, which add 8-inches to the height. Much easier loading and unloading.
Unfortunately, I did not notice that the latest iteration washer was not paired with the 7004 dryer, which has steam options and the new pet/flea cycle. Would I have had my local dealer order the 7004 and waited? Probably not. I downloaded the user guides for the washer and what I assumed was the 7004 it was paired with. In other words, I inspected every inch of the washer’s control panel at the store and obviously didn’t even glance at the dryer’s control panel. Have washed three loads— sheets/pillowcases (Whites cycle); a load of mixed colors (Perm Press cycle); and a maximum capacity load of bath, kitchen & personal whites (Whites cycle + Stain Boost option + 2 extra rinses.) I dosed the detergents pretty heavily—liquid Tide Ultimate Stain Release for the Stain Boost and powdered Tide Ultra Oxi for the main wash. The manual states to use powdered detergent for the main wash when choosing the Prewash or Stain Boost options. Apparently liquid detergent in the main compartment will dispense with the prewash/stain boost detergent. Results were excellent with all three loads. Various stains were vanquished save for a slightly noticeable mustard stain that stubbornly remained on a dish towel. Next time, I might try the Sanitize With Oxi cycle (60 minute wash tumble) with a Soak option to see how that handles stain removal. Apologies for the “from the side”photo, but the laundry space is so tight I had to stand off to the side to snap the pic. I’m so glad to have a front-loading washer again! My checkbook is still in shock, though.😂
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| Post# 1191322 , Reply# 1 10/5/2023 at 19:41 (205 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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Post# 1191324 , Reply# 2 10/5/2023 at 19:43 (205 days old) by RyneR1988 (Indianapolis) |
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Eugene,
Congratulations on your new washer! I have read your posts off and on and figured you'd be pleased to be back in the front loading world again. I assume the top loading pair was still working well, and if so, did you sell it? I imagine that would have offset the cost of this new pair some. I've been a top load user all my life, but will likely get a front loading washer when my old Whirlpool direct drive dies. Modern top loaders suffer from a performance standpoint due to current energy and water regulations, so an FL makes sense for a new machine. I'm really interested in the LG turbo wash series, but I can't justify buying something new until my DD completely gives up the ghost. I hope you enjoy many years with your SQ FL, I know I would if I could afford one. Ryne | ||
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Post# 1191325 , Reply# 3 10/5/2023 at 20:46 (205 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 1191342 , Reply# 4 10/6/2023 at 04:28 (205 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 1191343 , Reply# 5 10/6/2023 at 04:38 (205 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
Well you're FINALLY back to a front loader. Yes... with the washer/dryer/pedestals I'm sure you're checkbook is suffering (LOL). I'm not going to lie.. I've eyed these even though they don't have a heater. Sometimes I wonder if I even need one. My water heater is in the laundry room... but it's only at 120
Good luck with those but I doubt you'll need it. They are SQ's :) | ||
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Post# 1191345 , Reply# 6 10/6/2023 at 05:44 (205 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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The 9-Series set was re-homed, which is what I usually do. I’d rather gift a set to someone who needs it rather than get a paltry amount in trade from the dealer.
Forgot to mention that the suds removal protocol for this machine is excellent. I really overdosed the load of whites last night and happened to be in the laundry room when the S r code flashed. It ran water into the outer tub for a few minutes, then went into the ramped spin for the first rinse. Suds were gone! Did a much better job than my Frigidaires and even the 2015 Maytag. Will be fun to try out the various cycles and options over the next couple of weeks. | ||
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Post# 1191353 , Reply# 9 10/6/2023 at 09:21 (204 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Helicaldrive- Thanks for the tips! Those are exactly the sorts of things I need to know. Never thought of choosing a hot prewash to keep the temp high throughout the main wash. Also didn't realize it dispenses bleach during the wash, rather than the 1st rinse, which is what my Frigidaires and Maytag front-loaders did.
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Post# 1191356 , Reply# 10 10/6/2023 at 10:18 (204 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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normal eco and heavy duty cycles Have you tried the normal eco and heavy duty cycles? I'd stick to heavy duty for most loads except for whites which I wash on whites. | ||
| Post# 1191372 , Reply# 11 10/6/2023 at 12:53 (204 days old) by Helicaldrive (St. Louis) | ||
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Workaround I suppose if you aren’t doing a prewash you could wait 5” or so after the wash cycle has begun and then add the Clorox by diluting it with water and pouring it in the detergent compartment of the drawer. | ||
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Post# 1191373 , Reply# 12 10/6/2023 at 13:09 (204 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Jerome- I'll definitely try the Normal/Eco cycle. The user guide says it uses less water, That might work well for very small loads that don't like to tumble correctly when there's more water in the tub. I don't often wash in cold water, but it would be fine for a small, lightly soiled load. The Heavy Duty cycle will get a lot of use. Going to wash a queen-sized comforter later today so will get to try the Bedding cycle, too.
Helicaldrive-- I like your original idea of just adding bleach to the dispenser once the prewash fill has been completed. I had to dilute and add bleach through the door back when I had a Gibson-branded White-Westinghouse era front-loader. In fact, a 2-qt. plastic pitcher actually came with the washer. | ||
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Post# 1191386 , Reply# 13 10/6/2023 at 15:31 (204 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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" Never thought of choosing a hot prewash to keep the temp high throughout the main wash"
I couldn't recommend it... Hot water will set (or rather cook) protein secretions and marks into textiles making removal difficult or impossible. Cold to warm water (not above 100F) is for prewashing. SQ washers at local launderette have short cold water flush cycle (about 2-4 minutes) before main wash. Since machines lack heaters "Hot" wash is what comes from pipes. | ||
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Post# 1191393 , Reply# 14 10/6/2023 at 16:14 (204 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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heavy duty cycle For the most part, the heavy duty will be for typical washing in cold or warm washing depending what I'm washing, whether it's darks or lights. The whites get hot on whites. That is if I were to obtain this machine. | ||
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Post# 1191395 , Reply# 15 10/6/2023 at 16:55 (204 days old) by spiralator60 (Los Angeles) |
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Congratulations, Eugene! | ||
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Post# 1191397 , Reply# 16 10/6/2023 at 17:30 (204 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Congrats on new appliances! | ||
| Post# 1191426 , Reply# 18 10/6/2023 at 23:13 (204 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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am I understanding correctly based on what I read that this machine will dispense bleach in the main wash cycle if there is no prewash and in the prewash cycle if prewash is selected? Why??????
Also - what's up with the stainless drum in that it looks so different from the others? I know for a fact it's not because it's cheap.... | ||
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Post# 1191427 , Reply# 19 10/6/2023 at 23:23 (204 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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| Post# 1191442 , Reply# 22 10/7/2023 at 04:49 (204 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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I thought that was common with all manufacturers that the bleach got dispensed in the first rinse... but now that I think about it... when we had a top load washer we put the bleach in with the wash on whites...When I got my FL washer years ago and it dispensed the bleach on its own...but it does it in the first rinse...I remember thinking... wow, I was doing it wrong all these years. I don't ever remember using the bleach dispensers in TL washers though...why? I don't know. We just didn't use them. Also, I remember using a cup of clorox...crazy how little I use now in comparison. Like a couple of tablespoons.
I think the stainless drum looks really nice. I wonder what made them design into the boot seal those little square tiny compartments? Seems like it would be better if it were more smooth... This is about the size of my 2005 Duet. I think mine is like 3.8 cu ft.. Plenty big for laundry... but not quite big enough for a huge comforter. Just think .. if someone gets one of these and they are in their 40s/50s.. it could potentially be the last washer you ever buy. | ||
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Post# 1191444 , Reply# 23 10/7/2023 at 07:11 (203 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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I am not a happy camper—-and of course, it’s a problem with the dryer. The metal screen at the back of the drum used to be white, which would eventually turn black because of heat, I’m assuming. SQ’s solution to that problem was to put a black screen in. Unfortunately, when the heat is on, black paint is rubbing off onto items being dried.
You can see the results in photos #2 & 3 below. That’s a pair of dress shorts. I took only photos of the two areas in which the honeycomb pattern of the screen is visible, although it’s more apparent seeing the shorts directly, rather than in the photo. There are another half-dozen streaks and honeycomb patterns on other areas of the item. The load of mixed colors filled only half the tub in the washer, so this isn’t being caused by overloading the dryer. Seeing this, I checked items washed in other loads. Sure enough, there were black marks on a heavy white cotton pot holder and two white pillowcases. The honeycomb pattern was very apparent on them, but I’ve already thrown them in the washer with a maximum dose of Clorox liquid bleach to see if that gets the stains out. Nothing else I’ve tried—Amway Stain Spray (which normally gets almost anything out), GooGone, and Dawn dishwashing liquid—has even lightened the stains. I rubbed the screen with a white cotton bar mop towel and nothing came off on it. I saturated an area of the towel with Lysol Kitchen cleaner spray and rubbed again. Nothing came off onto the towel. Obviously, the problem rears its—literally—ugly head when heat is applied during the drying cycle. I haven’t even used the high heat setting yet! The load of mixed colors was dried on low heat and the load of whites on medium heat. The washer, on the other hand is doing an excellent job. Very impressed with it. Ideas, anyone? John (combo52) or others who deal with SQ’s: Have you seen this problem before? UPDATE: I put the stained white items (along with a few other bleachable pieces) through a Quick Wash at the maximum soil level and hot water, along with 1/4 scoop of Amway SA8 powdered detergent. Just checked on them; bleach did not budge the stains a bit. The stains appear to be permanent. | ||
| Post# 1191445 , Reply# 24 10/7/2023 at 07:31 (203 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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Post# 1191447 , Reply# 25 10/7/2023 at 08:24 (203 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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 Seems items would reasonably have to stick to the grill for the grill pattern to transfer. Perhaps run the dryer empty to check if the grill finish gets sticky when heated. Temperature setting doesn’t have an effect on the grill. The element always operates at full output, unless SQ has dual elements of higher & lower wattage (or a variable gas burner) to reduce heat input at lower temp choices. | ||
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Post# 1191448 , Reply# 26 10/7/2023 at 08:30 (203 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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Eugene, I don’t blame you for being mad! If I spent over 4 G’s on a washer and dryer set and the dryer left permanent black paint stains on the very first loads i’d dried in it I’d want that devil machine out of my home and my money back in my bank acct.
But then I cool down and contact the dealer and request that the dryer screen be replaced with a WHITE or unpainted screen and reimbursement for the permanently damaged items. That I believe is a reasonable request. I hope that you have good luck in getting this resolved. Hopefully John L. will be able to give you advice on how to get SQ to make this right for you. Being a dealer he should have the 411 you need. Eddie This post was last edited 10/07/2023 at 12:27 | ||
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Post# 1191452 , Reply# 27 10/7/2023 at 08:55 (203 days old) by stopmeister72 (Irving, TX) |
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stuck items I have had an issue at school where the bolts on the screen are kinda rough and catch rags. In particular, the sam's blue restaurant wash cloths that are part cotton and something synthetic. Every load, there would be one or more that would come out melted. Just about out of those now and just have cotton ones. | ||
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Post# 1191453 , Reply# 28 10/7/2023 at 09:07 (203 days old) by RyneR1988 (Indianapolis) |
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Wow, how unfortunate! Of course one always hears great things about SQ's washers, but their dryers not so much. It's one reason why if I ever had the funds to buy SQ I would probably only get the washer and pair it with something like a cheap 29-inch Whirlpool built dryer. I just couldn't make it make sense in my mind to spend so much on what is clearly a sub-par piece of equipment. I have no doubt SQ dryers are built well, but what good is that if a brand new one ruins clothes?
I hope you can get this figured out pronto! Ryne | ||
| Post# 1191458 , Reply# 31 10/7/2023 at 09:47 (203 days old) by Magic_Clean (Florida) | ||
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Check this! the dryer exhaust tubing and exterior vent flap for kinks or lint blockages. If the dryer can't breath freely; the dryer drum air inlet can reach a temperature that will melt synthetic fibers and you'll see the scorch marks. Make sure not to overload either. -LP | ||
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Post# 1191471 , Reply# 32 10/7/2023 at 10:38 (203 days old) by Logixx (Germany) |
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| Post# 1191479 , Reply# 33 10/7/2023 at 12:03 (203 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
According to reddit, there was a recall about the dryer screen but I couldn't find it anywhere. Apparently by reading all of the comments, they appear to be a common issue. For over two grand, I expected better.
www.reddit.com/r/Applianc... | ||
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Post# 1191484 , Reply# 34 10/7/2023 at 13:01 (203 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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drying I would try drying a load of sturdy darks on the heavy duty high setting if you have any. | ||
| Post# 1191511 , Reply# 35 10/7/2023 at 19:54 (203 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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So sorry...
These kind of things make me scratch my head because I thought big companies like this do tons of testing before they release something. Wouldn't they have encountered this during their testing? Don't they tests tens of thousands of loads? Different load types? Mind blown that something this obviously got by them. | ||
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Post# 1191532 , Reply# 36 10/8/2023 at 05:16 (203 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Mark- Searching around the internet, I found a number of people having the same issue with the new black exhaust screen on their new SQ dryers. I’ll ask my dealer if the unpainted—I mistakenly said the ones previously used were white—metal screens are still available and to switch it for the black one.
Eddie- I did hear from John via message. While he didn’t have an explanation for the color transfer onto items being dried, he did say that the previous exhaust screens—which were unpainted—turned gradually turned black not from heat, but from residue from poorly-rinsed clothes and/or when fabric softeners were used. I washed two small but heavy bathroom rugs last night. Only the rug that isn’t rubber-backed goes in the dryer, so as an experiment, I used the highest heat setting and set the timer for 99 minutes. Around the 25-minute mark I grabbed a dry wash cloth and rubbed it against the hot metal exhaust screen. Nothing rubbed off on it. Dawns on me now, the only permutation I haven’t tried is rubbing a wet cloth against the hot screen. Will try that today. Otherwise, I’m completely stumped. This is why I think the best thing to do is just replace the new black-painted screen with the old-style unpainted one. Problem solved. Aside: The only hesitation I had about getting the SQ washer was reading comments about out-of-balance issues on half-size loads, of which I wash a lot. Even on a pedestal, the machine has had no problem balancing small-to-medium sized loads. Washing the two small, very heavy rugs was a test of sorts, but the machine handled that tough-to-balance load without a problem. The true test will come when I wash sheets, pillowcases, pillow covers (the zip-up kind) and the mattress pad together. That was the only load that ever caused an occasional cabinet-banging out-of-balance load in my 2017 SQ 9-Series top-loader. I’d like to express a heartfelt thanks to everyone for your congratulations, comments and suggestions. AW is such a supportive community and the best resource for all things laundry and laundry equipment-related one could ask for. | ||
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Post# 1191583 , Reply# 37 10/8/2023 at 23:58 (202 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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Congratulations Eugene!
YOu now own the best laundry pair ever offered for sale for home use. The washer will clean anything you throw at it in one wash as long as the cycle is properly selected. I've pushed mine to the limit and had great results.
As far as the dryer I don't know why SQ would use a painted grill. My 2016 dryer does not have that. Two questions, Where does it vent to and are you experiencing long drying times. If it vents up through the roof like mine does in my townhouse the vent pipe can get clogged easily. Ask your Landlord when those ducts were last cleaned. All that said you now own the best. Enjoy them, I have had zero repairs on mine since 2016. I am very happy for you. WK78 | ||
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Post# 1191611 , Reply# 38 10/9/2023 at 12:52 (201 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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UPDATE: Called the local SQ dealer this morning and told him about the paint transfer to clothing from the black air grille at the back of the dryer drum. He said "I'll order one of the unpainted galvanized grilles and install it as soon as it arrives." So, hopefully that takes care of the issue. However, as John L., Nick and others mentioned, there may be a partially blocked duct somewhere in the wall behind my dryer. Apparently this used to be done in the 1960s and 70s, but from what I can tell, all eight of the dryers in the building feed into the same large plenum--hope that's the correct term. I first discovered this upon moving to the building when I opened my dryer door and it was full of hot, moist air. Exhaust from the dryer of the apt below mine was blowing into my dryer. Called the dealer and he put in a vent with flaps that open when my dryer is running, but stay closed to prevent exhaust from other dryers back-drafting into mine. Bob (appnut) mentioned that he once lived in a building with a similar dryer exhaust set-up.
Thanks again, everyone, for your input. Next step is to contact my landlord and find out where all the exhaust from the dryers actually goes. I see only furnace vents on the roof and nothing that looks like a vent for dryers on the outside of the building. | ||
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Post# 1191613 , Reply# 39 10/9/2023 at 13:00 (201 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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Good news about the dealer ordering a new unpainted vent cover Eugene!
I’d also ask the building manager when the dryer vents were last cleaned. My sister lives in an apartment and she has a washer and dryer in her apt. The dryer vent has become clogged twice in the 8 years that she’s lived there and the GD landlord has dragged his heels and complained about having the vent cleaned both times. With as many dryers using the same vent system as in your building the vents should be cleaned at least once a year. BTW, I’d like to say that its good to see you posting again, you’ve been pretty much out of the loop for a while. I always enjoy your posts and point of view. Eddie This post was last edited 10/09/2023 at 13:38 | ||
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Post# 1191634 , Reply# 41 10/9/2023 at 18:02 (201 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Just put the SQ front-loader through what has traditionally been a very difficult load to balance in the series of White-Westinghouse (Frigidaire & Gibson-branded), Electrolux (Frigidaire) and Whirlpool Corp (Maytag) front-loaders I’ve had since 1987.
The load consists of a very heavy mattress pad, two sheets, six pillowcases and six of those zip-up pillow covers. All queen-size. Glad to report that the SQ handled the load beautifully. It’s on a pedestal, so the tower did wobble a bit while it slowly extracted water after the wash tumble, but that corrected itself—the machine did do the redistribute/slowly ramp up speed routine a few times—but there was never any cabinet banging or anything like that. The final spin ramped up to what I’m assuming was 1200 the last few minutes. I do tend to wash a number of half-size loads each week and I’ve read comments here and elsewhere that SQ’s don’t always like that, but none of them have caused any noticeable disturbance to spins. A question for anyone who might know: Where the heck does this thing fill from? All the other FLers I’ve had have a fill flume near the front of the tub. I never see water entering the SQ. | ||
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| Post# 1191649 , Reply# 44 10/9/2023 at 21:43 (201 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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| Post# 1191659 , Reply# 46 10/9/2023 at 23:17 (201 days old) by Helicaldrive (St. Louis) | ||
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Crackpot not crockpot The spell check program here can be maddening sometimes! | ||
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Post# 1191665 , Reply# 48 10/10/2023 at 00:43 (201 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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"I do tend to wash a number of half-size loads each week and I’ve read comments here and elsewhere that SQ’s don’t always like that, but none of them have caused any noticeable disturbance to spins."
H-axis washers are universally happy when doing "Normal/Cottons/Linens" loads filled to near or total rated capacity. There will be less issues with spinning, OOB, and so on. That being said some domestic washers cope better than others with less than full loads. Introduction of computer control of motors and drum movements has gone a long way towards easing OOB issues caused by partial loads. When doing bed linen generally find issue with partial loads it seems to give more room for pillow slips to work themselves into pockets of fitted sheets, then when it comes time to spin.. Whoaa-Nellie! | ||
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Post# 1191668 , Reply# 49 10/10/2023 at 04:31 (201 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Launderess- The post White-Westinghouse front-loaders I’ve had all more elaborate or perhaps just longer redistribution/pre-spin protocols than the SQ, which is probably why half-size loads generally didn’t bother them. I recall the 2015 Maytag—a machine I absolutely loved—would, on rare occasions, fuss with a tough-to-balance load for 20-30 minutes before getting on with it. The Electrolux-made Frigidaires would simply error out after about 15 minutes, but I only recall that happening a couple of times. The SQ’s do only a bit of finessing and then it’s off to the races. It’s probably just as well the tub is only 3.5 cubic feet. More of my loads will near the fully loaded goalpost. It holds my extra-bulky queen sized comforter without being overstuffed, so I’m happy.
Helicaldrive- I believe the pedestals have rubber feet, so hopefully that prevents any walking. The pair sits on close to 50 year old linoleum over a wooden floor. So far I’ve only noticed a bit of a slow wobble during the balancing protocol, but no walking or anything like that. Vibration at high speeds has been minimal. I’ve figured out that the wash water drains at about the 27-minute mark on the Whites and Heavy Duty cycles, so I can peek into the laundry area and watch the ramp-up spin before the first rinse. Eddie- No one was more surprised than me by how little I’ve posted the past couple of years. I just felt like I’d run out of things to say, I guess. It wasn’t because I felt slighted or anything. Hopefully acquiring the new washer and dryer will get me back onto the boards more often. I realize how nice it is when people offer a quick congratulations or put forward comments, suggestions, and personal experiences with particular machines. | ||
| Post# 1191675 , Reply# 50 10/10/2023 at 07:47 (200 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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sometimes I feel like I do that...and there's no reason behind it really...You just lose interest for a bit but it always comes back...especially if you're looking for something or just bought something related to this site.
I really wish SQ still had a front load with rear controls so it would more match my standard Whirlpool dryer...LG also made one years ago with REAR controls and if I was in the market for one at the time it was available I would have bought that one..and of course there are none now. | ||
| Post# 1191676 , Reply# 51 10/10/2023 at 07:52 (200 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Post# 1191680 , Reply# 52 10/10/2023 at 08:40 (200 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Mark- Here's a picture of the control panel from the user guide. I only see the Extra Rinse pad. You can add up to three extra rinses by hitting the up arrow.
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Post# 1191682 , Reply# 53 10/10/2023 at 09:15 (200 days old) by WhiteWhiskers (Silicon Valley, California) |
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Reply# 20 inner stainless tub with 9 bolts
On 10/6/2023 at 08:06 by Helicaldrive wrote:
> My SQ FL is 6 or 7 years old by now, so yours might be different My 7009 uses 6 bolts for the inner tub. So SQ went from 9 bolts to 6 with a change in spider design? Just an interesting observation.
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Post# 1191683 , Reply# 54 10/10/2023 at 09:20 (200 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Mark- I generally prefer a rear control panel, too. The 1987 White-Westinghouse-made Frigidaire I owned had rear controls, as well as one of the early '90s Electrolux-made Frigidaires. They seem to be a thing of the past. The thing I like having again are the timed dispensers, even if I don't agree with when bleach is dispensed on my SQ. What I've done twice now is to use the Quick cycle (1 wash + 1 rinse + 1200 rpm spin) for items that need bleach. Then I add all the rest of the whites and run it through a Whites cycle. I don't always need to bleach; depends on what I've been cooking the past few days. Dish towels, dish rags and white chef's aprons are the most frequent candidates for Clorox.
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| Post# 1191685 , Reply# 55 10/10/2023 at 09:24 (200 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Sorry I must have been looking at another model... On this one the price is in the $1700s...One of the pics allows you to see the control panel up close..
CLICK HERE TO GO TO mark_wpduet's LINK | ||
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Post# 1191687 , Reply# 56 10/10/2023 at 09:53 (200 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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| Post# 1191688 , Reply# 57 10/10/2023 at 10:02 (200 days old) by Helicaldrive (St. Louis) | ||
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Cycles and options have changed!
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Post# 1191689 , Reply# 58 10/10/2023 at 10:04 (200 days old) by marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now living in Palm Springs and Dublin) |
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 Congratulations on the new set!
If you don't mind, could you please let us know what the maximum and minimum wash times are (main wash) that can be selected by pressing "soil level" and then using the up/down arrows or preset levels? I'd be really interested to know the max wash time for heavy duty and normal, for example.
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Post# 1191692 , Reply# 59 10/10/2023 at 10:20 (200 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 1191694 , Reply# 60 10/10/2023 at 10:42 (200 days old) by marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now living in Palm Springs and Dublin) |
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Thanks, Eugene! I did flick through the instructions for your model, but I couldn't see these times mentioned (it only seems to state the default times). The manual also implies that selecting "max soil" will provide the maximum wash time, which possibly cannot be further increased using the up arrow key.
I was also wondering if the machine has only one water level.
I'd also be interested to know if the different tumble rhythms of the various cycles all have the same RPM and only vary the tumble/rest times or if they actually alter the speed of the tumbling too. | ||
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Post# 1191699 , Reply# 61 10/10/2023 at 12:09 (200 days old) by Mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas) |
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Eugene, Congratulations on acquiring a new set, they certainly are sharp looking. Hope all issues with the dryer are resolved and you get many years use out of them. Glad to know that you are pleased with the washing ability of the SQ. A good detergent makes all the difference too. Very happy for you. Barry | ||
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Post# 1191702 , Reply# 62 10/10/2023 at 13:22 (200 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Barry- Couldn't agree more about using a top-notch detergent. I'm generally a Tide man, so liquid Tide Ultra Stain Release is my go-to. Also had good luck using Tide Ultra Oxi pods for small-to-medium loads in the SQ top-loader and the larger Tide 10X pods for large to extra large loads. Tried a regular-sized pod in the front-loader and there was more suds than I'd like to see. I'll try a 10X pod just to see what happens, although I'd bet the farm it'll trigger the suds removal protocol. Think I'll take the two unopened containers of pods to the local food shelf.
Picked up powdered Tide Ultra Oxi to use in the main wash when adding the Prewash or Stain Boost options. The user guide says using liquid detergent in the main compartment in those circumstances will tend to dispense the main wash detergent in the prewash. I like Persil liquid, but find that it creates rather thick, foamy suds that doesn't rinse out as well as the aforementioned Tide products. I have softened water. Will have to fine tune the dosage of Persil or take it to the food shelf, as well. | ||
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Post# 1191722 , Reply# 63 10/10/2023 at 21:14 (200 days old) by stopmeister72 (Irving, TX) |
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rinse description Hey Mark, Here are the descriptions - Extra Rinse This Option will provide an additional rinse to the selected cy- cle. The water temperature will be cold. Allergy Rinse The Allergy Rinse Option provides two additional rinses. It is useful for detergent sensitive skin. The water temperature will be cold. NOTE: If Extra Rinse and Allergy Rinse are both selec- ted, the cycle will provide a total of three additional rin- ses.
Works the same as my mine with the "second" and "third" rinse options.
so you can get anywhere from 2-5 rinses depending on which buttons are selected or not.
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Post# 1191723 , Reply# 64 10/10/2023 at 21:19 (200 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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tide 10x oxi pods Has anybody tried the Tide 10x oxi pods? They're the 10x power pods with odor eliminators. I like them. I pair them with Downy April Fresh. | ||
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Post# 1191734 , Reply# 65 10/11/2023 at 02:31 (200 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Jerome- I used the Tide 10X pods for loads requiring the large or extra large water level settings with my former washer, a 2017 Speed Queen top-loader 9-Series. I used standard Tide pods for small to medium loads. I’m going to try a 10X pod in the new front-loader, but I think it will produce too much suds.
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Post# 1191735 , Reply# 66 10/11/2023 at 02:43 (200 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Mark- Here’s some cycle information time for the SQ 7009. Most cycles move in 5-minute increments as you scroll through the soil levels. The exception to that occurs with the Normal cycle, which makes a big jump in wash tumble time going between Heavy and Max soil levels. I noticed the same thing with my 2015 Maytag front-loader. They obviously know that’s the cycle and soil setting a leading US consumer magazine uses to rate a machine’s cleaning ability.
Medium Soil level is generally the default cycle time. Key: Total cycle time/ Wash tumble time Heavy Duty: Light Soil 39/10; Medium 44/15; Heavy 49/20; Max 54/25 Whites: Light Soil 44/15; Medium 49/20; Heavy 54/25; Max 59/30 Normal: Light Soil 33/9; Medium 38/14; Heavy 48/24; Max 74/50 Perm Press: Light Soil 37/8; Medium 41/12; Heavy 45/16; Max 49/20 Sanitize With Oxi: Light Soil 90/50; Medium 1 hr + 40 mins/60; Heavy 1 hr + 50 mins/70; Max 2 hrs/80 | ||
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Post# 1191737 , Reply# 67 10/11/2023 at 04:38 (200 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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I wonder what exactly sanitize with oxi even does? I mean, it doesn't have a heater so...what is it actually doing that's so special?
I also wonder, does this front load (like the LG) use more water to rinse than wash or is it the same amount as the washes for rinses? I've watched this work on youtube and I can't tell a difference. Also... what is your definition of "Good detergent"? | ||
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Post# 1191739 , Reply# 69 10/11/2023 at 05:35 (200 days old) by marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now living in Palm Springs and Dublin) |
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Thanks so much for posting the cycle info, Eugene. That certainly makes things a whole lot clearer. And yes......it's easy to spot the cycle designed for CR!
One other thing: if you press "soil level" and then use the up/down arrow keys to adjust the wash time, are you able to go any higher than the "max soil level" time? | ||
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Post# 1191740 , Reply# 70 10/11/2023 at 06:18 (199 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 1191742 , Reply# 71 10/11/2023 at 06:25 (199 days old) by marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now living in Palm Springs and Dublin) |
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Oh interesting, ok. I read this in the manual:
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Post# 1191743 , Reply# 72 10/11/2023 at 06:37 (199 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Mark- I’ve always thought the whole “sanitize with oxi” thing was kind of bogus, but apparently if you use a heavy dose of it and keep it tumbling long enough, it does do the trick. I’m a traditionalist when it comes to sanitizing, preferring to use standard Clorox bleach. I do want to try the Sanitize With Oxi cycle to see how it eradicates food stains from kitchen towels and chef’s aprons. 60-80 minutes of wash time tumble with a good detergent—and maybe some Oxi Clean White Revive added for extra punch—should remove a lot of stains. Theoretically. LOL
As for what constitutes what I call a good detergent, I turn to the detergent ranking of the product testing company we love to hate. Liquid Tide Plus Ultra Stain Release and Persil ProClean Stain Fighter tie for the top score of 84. Next comes Tide Ultra Oxi with an almost identical 83. When in a pod mood, I use their top-ranked Tide Hygienic Clean Heavy Duty 10X Power Pods, which scores a 78. Those are the big pods. For small-to-medium sized loads I use Tide Pods Ultra Oxi 4-in-1, which are the standard size, with a score of 70. Having said that, I never judge what detergents people choose to use. Everyone has their favorites.
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Post# 1191744 , Reply# 73 10/11/2023 at 06:43 (199 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Mark- Wow! When I select a cycle and tap the arrows, all I get is a multi-beep error signal.
UPDATE: Turns out you and the manual are correct—with this caveat: If you press Light Soil, you can arrow up by 1-minute increments. After pressing it four times, it automatically changes to Medium Soil, then Heavy, then Max. If you choose Max, you can arrow down by 1-minute increments. However, if I, say, choose Medium Soil, or Heavy Soil, I get the error beeps. This post was last edited 10/11/2023 at 10:38 | ||
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Post# 1191755 , Reply# 74 10/11/2023 at 12:09 (199 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 1191757 , Reply# 75 10/11/2023 at 12:34 (199 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1191759 , Reply# 76 10/11/2023 at 12:56 (199 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 1191760 , Reply# 77 10/11/2023 at 13:24 (199 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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water recirculation It would be nice if Speed Queen added water recirculation. | ||
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Post# 1191761 , Reply# 78 10/11/2023 at 13:28 (199 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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tide power pods oxi Here they are. CLICK HERE TO GO TO GELaundry4ever's LINK | ||
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These are my top favorite detergents. For powder, Tide Original and Kirkland. For liquid, Tide Mountain Spring and Persil Proclean Deep Clean Intense Fresh. For stain removers, I like using the Spray n Wash and Oxiclean Odor Blasters. I use white distelled vinegar once in a while for sanitizing, I never use fabric softener. Whenever I do white clothes or white towels, I use bleach.
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Post# 1191765 , Reply# 80 10/11/2023 at 18:34 (199 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Would have no effect on a properly functioning, septic system. And the advantage of bleach for keeping drains clean and extending the life of washing machines and reducing electricity consumption, or other advantages of just using a quarter cup of chlorine bleach, and a front load washer on a regular basis.
My house in the mountains has never had any work done to the septic system since 1965, there are two garbage disposals in that house that we use heavily and bleach and other cleaners also don’t seem to have any effect. John | ||
| Post# 1191766 , Reply# 81 10/11/2023 at 18:35 (199 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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I had no problem with Kirkland HE powder I used once...only the entire box I bought the powder was really clumpy..I remember it smelled SO good. Right now I use Windfresh which is a cheap detergent but as long as the clothes are clean and fresh I'm fine with it. Mostly I will use pretreat to get stains anyway. and I learned on this forum to use a drop of dish soap for an oil stain and peroxide on a blood stain.
I'm glad this machine also has a "soak" cycle. I do use that cycle on mine a few times a year | ||
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Post# 1191819 , Reply# 85 10/12/2023 at 19:07 (198 days old) by Mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas) |
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Eugene, I’m also glad to see you posting again. You’ve been missed!!! Barry | ||
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Post# 1191836 , Reply# 86 10/13/2023 at 04:19 (198 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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"sanitize with oxi"
Simply laundering textiles will "sanitize" them, adding chlorine or oxygen bleach will bring germ numbers down still further.
"Oxi" is not a regulated term nor word. It can mean whatever some clever chop in marketing decides it should in a consumer's mind. For laundry appliances it's obvious SQ and others are playing with word association of "oxi" as in oxygen bleaches including "Oxiclean" | ||
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Post# 1191837 , Reply# 87 10/13/2023 at 04:30 (198 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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"It would be nice if Speed Queen added water recirculation.
Water recirculation for H-axis washers is more about using low water levels than anything else. If cycle in question uses enough water to get job done without having to recirculate with a pump it's all good. There are some other benefits of recirculation sprays such as wetting down loads faster. IIRC Zanussi washers in Europe were first to have recirculation spray systems (Jet System), am sure someone will correct if one is incorrect. www.automaticwasher.org/c... On commercial side of things Unimac offers washers with spray systems. unimac.com/technology/optispray/... | ||
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Post# 1191838 , Reply# 88 10/13/2023 at 04:33 (198 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Here's my AEG Lavamat doing a full load at rest between tumble reverse. You don't see very much water puddling up do you? When recirculation starts later in cycle things get splashy proving there is more than enough water.
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Post# 1191860 , Reply# 89 10/13/2023 at 09:53 (197 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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Speed Queen Laundry I use both the Speed queen front and top loaders. I too noticed that the water will turn on while the pump is running for 30 seconds, then the pump will cut off. It's a suds removal technique that works. It has solid technology which really works. | ||
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Post# 1191883 , Reply# 90 10/13/2023 at 15:50 (197 days old) by Logixx (Germany) |
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Water Recirculation in 1969 | ||
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Post# 1191922 , Reply# 92 10/14/2023 at 12:02 (196 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Congratulations Eugene! I hope it gives you many years of enjoyment and service - and look forward to hearing more reports 😊. Jon | ||
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Post# 1192855 , Reply# 94 10/31/2023 at 13:09 by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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A quick update: The issue with the dryer turned out to be--as several of you mentioned--a blocked dryer vent in the wall. The SQ dealer replaced the black screen at the back of the drum with an unpainted galvanized one, but all the weird symptoms--a less than normal amount of lint in the tray; cabinet feeling hotter than it should during operation; lint deposited on the load; ineffective cooldown period at end of cycle--disappeared instantly when the landlord cleaned out the vent run that dumps out the south wall of the apt building.
Absolutely love the washer! No problems with out of balance loads despite all the less-than-capacity loads I tend to wash. The pedestals actually seem to help prevent walking, etc. | ||
| Post# 1192856 , Reply# 95 10/31/2023 at 13:42 by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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blocked dryer vents ... UGH.
In a perfect world all dryers in existence would vent straight out next to an outside wall. Those videos above... The recirculation reminds me of the LG turbo wash... It's looks like they tumble faster than modern FL washers too.. I remember years ago someone on here (I think his name is Malcolm) bought a TOL SQ pair in stainless steel. He posted videos. I too remember not being blown away by those pulse short spins between rinses... But they were REALLY nice machines otherwise. | ||
| Post# 1192860 , Reply# 96 10/31/2023 at 14:05 by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Someone posted a site that has every single Sears Catalog page. I looked up that Lady Kenmore in the video above. In 1969 Spring/Summer Catalog that washer/dryer Combo was $469.95. Do you know how much that would be today?? $3,941. My God..
CLICK HERE TO GO TO mark_wpduet's LINK | ||
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Post# 1192861 , Reply# 97 10/31/2023 at 14:35 by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Mark- SQ has tweaked the spins after the wash and first rinse. They spin fairly slowly, then gradually ramp up to a pretty fast spin--650 or higher, I'd say. I remember that the older versions' pulse spins were not very impressive. At any rate, the machine does a good job of spinning the water out of the clothes, now. The final spin behaves the same way, but winds up at 1200 rpm for the Normal, Heavy Duty, Whites and Quick cycles.
I've also abandoned pods altogether. Too much suds in the very soft water. I took two big containers of the 10X pods and a full jug of Persil to the local food shelf. I use liquid Tide Ultra Stain Release, powdered Tide Ultra Oxi, powdered Amway SA8 (usually in conjunction with their color-safe powdered bleach) and tiny doses of Perwoll For Blacks for loads of black clothes. I'm a part time musician and wear all black quite often. | ||
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Post# 1192894 , Reply# 98 11/1/2023 at 05:19 by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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New Speed Queen front load, washer and dryer pair
Yay Eugene glad they got that figured out with the dryer vent, kind of surprised the installers didn’t discover that anytime I install a dryer or even work on one I always make sure the vent is moving good amount of air otherwise problems arise quickly, and people are not satisfied to say the least.
Monday this week I was working in a multi million dollar house in the dryer vent was completely clogged. It ran nearly 70 feet when they could’ve just gone through the front wall of the house but I guess somebody didn’t like the look of having a dryer vent on the front of this mansion , Told the property manager that either need to cut vent through the front of the wall or buy a nearly $2000 whirlpool full-size heat pump ventless dryer. Whenever a customer asked me what the best new automatic washer is without reservation we recommend to Speed Queen front load washer, yes, there are machines with more bells and whistles and I love gadgets, etc. but if you’re looking for a machine that works really well and is unlikely to have problems and is repairable if you do, there’s nothing like a Speed Queen front load washer. It’s like the old days of Hobart built KitchenAid dishwashers. There was never an equal to those machines. John | ||
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Glad to hear that the dryer got situated, and also glad to hear that you're enjoying the washer so far! I might look into this set now that they're selling them in black, I never liked the looks of the white color. However if I get the home that I was looking into recently, I won't be buying the set. Unfortunately that home is required to have a top loader because there's a water pressure tank right in front of the washer, I'd only have access onto the top. And there's no room to put in a stackable set either.
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