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Thread Number: 94819
/ Tag: Modern Dishwashers
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| Post# 1194445 , Reply# 1 11/30/2023 at 14:02 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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Post# 1194447 , Reply# 2 11/30/2023 at 14:13 by petek  (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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LXN | ||
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Post# 1194471 , Reply# 3 11/30/2023 at 20:32 by appnut (TX) |
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LXN latest ad video
My church had one from about 15-20 years ago and the latest kitfchen remodel, they got rid of the dishwasher. You have to have one helluva power source to run this thing.
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| Post# 1194474 , Reply# 4 11/30/2023 at 20:55 by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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Post# 1194476 , Reply# 5 11/30/2023 at 21:00 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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wash performance The stunning question is: how well will it wash? | ||
| Post# 1194484 , Reply# 6 12/1/2023 at 00:53 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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After further research | ||
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Post# 1194494 , Reply# 7 12/1/2023 at 09:42 by rinso (Meridian Idaho) |
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Well, the ad I saw said "for the home." So I thought Hobarts were again being made for residential use. I may have misunderstood what they meant. | ||
| Post# 1194495 , Reply# 8 12/1/2023 at 10:11 by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
Good lord that thing looks like a beast....water getting that hot...My first thought seeing all that steam was it would work great in the winter when the air is really dry in the house.
When I was 16 I washed dishes at the local Elk's Lodge for only a couple of months before I started bussing tables then later waiting tables. What a horrible job washing dishes was.. My first night was on a Saturday night (busiest night of the week) and I couldn't keep up and I remember almost passing out. I went outside for a break and everything was spinning. I remember sitting down and I put my head between my knees and just sat there and recovered. I remember the dishwasher had a handle you grabbed that raised up both sides and you slid the tray in after rinsing. I can't remember how long it ran but it wasn't very long. It was probably a Hobart. Not sure how hot the water got but it was hot. Dishes were very difficult to touch straight away and they didn't always come clean | ||
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Post# 1194527 , Reply# 9 12/1/2023 at 16:26 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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"For the home...."
Likely caters to same market of individuals who install (or wish to) commercial or near gas ranges, refrigerators and so forth.
Though the trend has some what died off there are still those who feel they must have a commercial Garland gas range or Sub-Zero refrigerator. Hobart has enough on their plates and yes one can have their LXn commercial dishwashers installed in a residence, it's not something usually recommended. Hobart themselves do not recommend installing their commercial dishwashers in residential settings. www.hobartcorp.com/produc... | ||
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Post# 1194529 , Reply# 11 12/1/2023 at 17:36 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Post# 1194604 , Reply# 13 12/2/2023 at 22:43 by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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Commercial Dish Machines:
Are an ENTIRELY different animal than home dishwashers. I know this better than most with 30 years in the foodservice industry. The dish machine in question while an undercounter unit that could be used residentially is still a true commercial unit.
To be used properly it requires a 208-240 power connection and must have either a booster heater for the 180f rinse or sanitizer injection for a 140 rinse to properly sanitize. Good pre-scrapping/rinsing procedures are very important to keep food soil out of the wash tank water. A dish machine must also be allowed enough time to fill and heat the water up to temp before any racks are washed. While I would not say no to using a commercial DM at home there are some things to consider before doing so. WK78 | ||
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Post# 1195906 , Reply# 15 12/23/2023 at 11:06 by rinso (Meridian Idaho) |
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Here's another ad showing a Hobart-made dishwasher for home use. It is interesting that it has a reverse-rack configuration.
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Post# 1195941 , Reply# 16 12/24/2023 at 02:27 by Logixx (Germany) |
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Looks more like a coffee shop type of setting to me: she's wearing an apron, I see what looks like stainless steel containers with cutlery in the background as well as stacked cups for a soda machine and some sort of plastic or glass guard around the counter. The cabinet next to the dishwasher is also a stainless steel one.
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Post# 1195947 , Reply# 17 12/24/2023 at 04:08 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Brochure For Hobart LXn DW
Image above is part of said brochure where cover clearly shows staff member is from some sort of food/hospitality place.
www.hobartcorp.com/sites/... Specs: www.hobartcorp.com/sites/default... Manual: itwfeg.webdamdb.com/directdownlo... In common with all commercial dishwasher these units must be cleaned out at end of day or at least once per. Am not saying someone couldn't install a LXn dishwasher in domestic setting, but it just seems like whole lot of bother. There are many domestic dishwashers, in particular from TOL offerings that will do the job. For what one LXn dw costs one could have two or maybe three TOL domestic dishwashers. | ||
| Post# 1195965 , Reply# 18 12/24/2023 at 10:04 by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit) | ||
I've Seen Owen's dishwasher..
and even he's said it doesn't clean all that well. They're designed for heavily pre-rinsed dishes as one would find in a kitchen establishment as the cycle time is extremely brief, much shorter than even most of the domestic machines of the 1950s.
I suggested a different detergent for it, which I don't think he's had the opportunity to try yet, bit I don't see it making much of a difference. | ||
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Post# 1195972 , Reply# 19 12/24/2023 at 12:14 by rinso (Meridian Idaho) |
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Thanks for everyone's input and comments. | ||
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Post# 1195992 , Reply# 20 12/24/2023 at 22:10 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Some modern flight type dishwashers have done away with need for pre scrapping and washing. But remember these machines in common with other commercial dishwashers do not have food disposers. Thus periodically collected "waste" must be emptied.
Other than that as seen in video for reply #9 things have not changed. Commercial dishwashers are largely about sanitizing and getting pre-washed dishware, glassware, pots and pans... the final mile. Things are always scrapped, rinsed, soaked or whatever before going into machine. Those marketing and using commercial dishwashers largely are under no illusions that like their domestic cousins heavily soiled things can go in and emerge clean. | ||
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Post# 1196010 , Reply# 21 12/25/2023 at 08:42 by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA) |
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We stay in a B&B that has 5 bedrooms...they have 2 household Bosch d/w which work out best. There are academic studies that show that in a semi-commercial environment (say a bed/breakfast, group home, senior citizens housing) that household d/w with a sanitize setting (high-temp hold) are all that is needed...they perform as well as a commercial machine and if you've got the time and scale (number of machines) right you're just as well doing that.
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Post# 1196083 , Reply# 22 12/27/2023 at 02:38 by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Seems as though the best household dishwasher that eliminates pre-rinsing, doesn't need special commercial-rated detergent and won't be hard and harsh in what you put in there, not to mention most-water efficient amc when you need only a normal amount of hot water is where I'd go, seems unnecessary to me going such a route unless I 'have a whole army'...
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Post# 1196084 , Reply# 23 12/27/2023 at 02:58 by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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How might you explain this? | ||
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Post# 1196085 , Reply# 24 12/27/2023 at 02:59 by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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Try this one | ||
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Post# 1196087 , Reply# 25 12/27/2023 at 03:33 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Home economics classroom could be considered quasi commercial. Much like cooking or baking schools. There will be lots of of dishware and such that needs washing and it must be done quickly.
Centerline under counter dw only have two minute wash cycles (can be doubled to four for "heavy" loads. Neither would be able to cope with loads that aren't scrapped well and possibly pre-washed or rinsed. Rest of it as as discussed. Unit requires booster heater, place to store injected supplies... www.centerlinefoodequipme...™-undercounter-dishwasher#product-specs www.centerlinefoodequipment.com/... | ||
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