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Thread Number: 95149
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Is Whirlpool working on it's own version of the heat pump combo ? |
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| Post# 1197983 1/26/2024 at 14:11 by verizonbear (Glen Burnie ) | ||
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Post# 1198009 , Reply# 1 1/26/2024 at 19:36 by appnut  (TX) |
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Post# 1198016 , Reply# 2 1/26/2024 at 20:40 by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine) |
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My next door fair weather neighbors have a Whirlpool heat pump dryer with a Whirlpool stack heater washer that fills only cold and both are 110. I know she said to dry a load of heavy towels was over 2 hours and they bought at Lowes 3 years ago. Plus emptying a bin of water every load I am sure they were foreign made but they work fine when they are here. Nothing I would ever want.
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| Post# 1198018 , Reply# 3 1/26/2024 at 20:51 by qsd-dan (West) | ||
Heat pump dryer isn't a bad idea from an efficiency standpoint but it adds additional complexity to the design making is more repair prone. There's also additional maintenance required. It could be tolerable for 1-2 adults without kids but its not something a family would endure for very long or at all.
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Post# 1198019 , Reply# 4 1/26/2024 at 20:52 by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 1198053 , Reply# 6 1/27/2024 at 09:47 by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Heat pump dryer, reliability
Has yet to be proven, it will have different problems. Just getting rid of the venting is a huge cause of problems with regular dryers, and if you compare, even older, Maytag, whirlpool and GE pairs dryers always require more service calls than washers over their normal life.
The compressor and refrigeration system will be a relatively in frequent problem, but there is a little more complexity with filters, but you won’t have all the problems with Motors getting clogged up with lint, etc. and heating element problems as mentioned. I don’t think there’s any compact dryer that will even hold 16 to 18 pounds of laundry somebody’s gonna have to show me that . We got 12 of the compact French made whirlpool dryers from Eugene that are heat pumps. These operate on 240 V haven’t seen a 120 V one so far no problems with any of them but I don’t expect them to be as durable as an older whirlpool or Speed Queen dryer of course. John | ||
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Post# 1198055 , Reply# 7 1/27/2024 at 10:01 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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One is leery of heat pump dryers since (unless one is mistaken) just as with air conditioners, refrigerators, freezers and other such appliances with condensers, what that part fails thing is basically ready for the tip. Cost to repair or replace a condenser at that point is often more than thing is worth.
OTOH standard vented dryers can last basically forever with proper maintenance and care. When time comes the things can often easily be overhauled and then put back into service for many more decades to come. | ||
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Post# 1198056 , Reply# 8 1/27/2024 at 10:07 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Owners of current models of WP hybrid heat pump dryers either swear by them, or at them...
www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin... Ditto for matching washer: www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin... | ||
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Post# 1198058 , Reply# 9 1/27/2024 at 10:21 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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IMHO answer to OP's query is that much will depend upon action from Washington, D.C.
If Biden wins another term and that some kind of piece of DOE secretary insists on promoting and otherwise putting into place every crackpot idea out of CA, including restrictions of energy use for appliances, then WP like others may have their hands forced. Same applies if more states and or local areas keep pushing for bans on natural gas appliances and so forth. Final piece of puzzle will be how future generations of Americans live. Remember condenser (or vent less if you will) dryers largely came into existence because European appliance manufacturers saw a niche that wanted filling. That is households that wanted clothes dryers but venting for various reasons was not possible. Couple this with size of average homes or apartments decreasing (less space for full sized washers and or dryers), and you can see where things would go. Even in their native land of Europe combination washer/dryers are often a solution that is looking for a problem. Most do well enough with washing, it's drying where things get interesting. Those without other options or for various other reasons will overlook any negatives and focus only on benefits. www.nytimes.com/wirecutte... reviewed.usatoday.com/laundry/be... www.goodhousekeeping.com/uk/prod... | ||
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Post# 1198062 , Reply# 11 1/27/2024 at 11:21 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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In many areas of USA where available natural gas or maybe propane are usually far cheaper than electricity.
In our neck of woods people with a choice will always go for gas dryers, cooking appliances, heating and so on over electricity due to cost. Wherever you see state or local governments in USA pushing to ban or restrict natural gas appliances, you also often see some sort of effort to protect "low income", "persons of color", "minority communities" and others from what surely will be high costs of using electricity. Irony is that those pushing for banning natural gas go on about how its use harms those very same communities. | ||
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Post# 1198063 , Reply# 12 1/27/2024 at 11:22 by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Heat pump dryer, reliability
There is no reason heat pump dryers couldn’t easily outlast the great dryers that we’ve had in this country for the last many decades, compressors are about the last thing to give you trouble in modern refrigerators and condensers never ever ever fail. It’s just copper tubing.
And once full-size combination, washer dryer start to catch on they’ll be even less need for repair people because a combination washer dryer will have less problems than both the washer and dryer because they’re much simpler than a washer and a dryer. Like others said, getting rid of the high amperage connections, thermal fuses, and heating elements that are a big problem in current 240 V electric dryers and of course all the components that go bad in gas dryers will make heat pump dryers potentially very reliable. The only problem with combination. Washer dryers is really been that they were too small Things in Europe never made any sense for a serious washer and dryer machine will have to be bigger physically that’s the problem with the new LG heat pump combo already is that didn’t put a big enough refrigeration system in it it needs to be in a bigger cabinet, GE was smarter to have the machine taller so you could have a decent size heat pump unit in it. If I was designing it, I would put the heat pump unit underneath so the washing machine loading and unloading would be a better height. | ||
| Post# 1198122 , Reply# 14 1/28/2024 at 08:00 by me (Essex, UK) | ||
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"60 condenser ones" - That should have been 30 condenser models. | ||
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