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Thread Number: 95266
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Modern Living: Part Fifteen |
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Post# 1199060 2/11/2024 at 17:46 by Ultramatic  (New York City) |
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Advertisements for homes and products up to 1999. Traditionally built & manufactured homes, building materials, furniture, lighting, plumbing fixtures, flooring, decor, non-electric housewares, home linens, kitchenware, cleaning products, in short, everything that made the home modern and easier to care for. Of course, everyone is invited to contribute with advertisements. Please be sure they contain no watermarks from other sites or individuals. For home appliances (electric or gas), please refer to the Vintage Appliance Advertisement series. For telephones, please refer to the Number PULEAZE! series.
Enjoy!
Part One: http://www.automaticwasher.org/c...
Part Two: https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?76909
Part Three: https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?76970
Part Four: https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?77155
Part Five: https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?78035
Part Six: https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?79534
Part Seven: https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?80201
Part Eight: https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?80946
Part Nine: https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?82737
Part Ten: https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?83717
Part Eleven: https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?85297
Part Twelve: https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?89322
Part Thirteen: https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?92311
Part Fourteen: https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?93333 | ||
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Post# 1199062 , Reply# 1 2/11/2024 at 18:31 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Hubbell Electrical Catalog 1906 | ||
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Post# 1199063 , Reply# 2 2/11/2024 at 18:36 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Hubbell 1915 | ||
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Post# 1199064 , Reply# 3 2/11/2024 at 18:38 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Alcoa 1932 | ||
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Post# 1199065 , Reply# 4 2/11/2024 at 18:41 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Ekco 1958 | ||
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Post# 1199066 , Reply# 5 2/11/2024 at 18:43 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Broyhill 1960 | ||
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Post# 1199067 , Reply# 6 2/11/2024 at 18:45 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Carrara 1935 | ||
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Post# 1199068 , Reply# 7 2/11/2024 at 18:47 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Congoleum 1922 | ||
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Post# 1199069 , Reply# 8 2/11/2024 at 18:49 by appnut (TX) |
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Reply #4 Ekco
I have the 2 qt. double boiler. It was my paternal grandmothers. The pot that is used for the water is actually induction compatable. Blew me away.
My "other mother" who was neighbors at both our houses had several pieces, the big skillet and I also believe the dutch oven--4.5 qt. lI thought those pans were so beautiful and modern. I liked the look of them better than Reverware. I think Revereware had significantly far more variety of pieces than Ekco ever did. And that's what kept me drawn to Revereware. | ||
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Post# 1199070 , Reply# 9 2/11/2024 at 18:49 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Crane 1940 | ||
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Post# 1199071 , Reply# 10 2/11/2024 at 18:51 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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I-XL 1952 | ||
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Post# 1199072 , Reply# 11 2/11/2024 at 18:56 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Lightolier 1958 | ||
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Post# 1199088 , Reply# 12 2/11/2024 at 20:33 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Allegheny Ludlum 1956 | ||
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Post# 1199097 , Reply# 13 2/11/2024 at 21:56 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Weyerhaeuser 1959 | ||
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Post# 1199101 , Reply# 14 2/12/2024 at 00:44 by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area) |
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Louis, thanks for posting the applicable pages from the 1906 Hubbell catalog. I saw it and others similar on the Building Technology Heritage Library, and was going to link to it when I go back to the library. | ||
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Post# 1199148 , Reply# 15 2/12/2024 at 16:45 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Montgomery Ward 1916 | ||
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Post# 1199150 , Reply# 16 2/12/2024 at 17:02 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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General Electric Co. 1909 | ||
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Post# 1199153 , Reply# 17 2/12/2024 at 18:18 by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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Re:#’s 1, 15 and 16 Thanks Louie for finding these old electric supply catalog pages. I knew damn well that there were floor and wall electric outlets in 1919 and before. In’78 I lived in a duplex that was built before 1920 that had original outlets like these with the brass cover plates.
There were only two 15 amp circuits in fuse box outside under the roof overhang. I couldn’t do the laundry at night in my Maytag A50 because every time I started the spin tub I’d blow a fuse and have no lights. Then I’d have to go outside in the dark with a flash light and get up on one of the 3 legged chairs to my Danish Modern dining table and precariously attempt to replace the blown fuse. This duplex also had a real Murphy Bed in the dining room where I slept and my brother Joe, who I shared the duplex with slept in the only bedroom.
Eddie | ||
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Post# 1199165 , Reply# 19 2/12/2024 at 22:22 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Chelten Electric Co. 1913 | ||
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Post# 1199251 , Reply# 20 2/14/2024 at 06:58 by chetlaham (United States) |
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I am just like you, I am beyond words fascinated by vintage electrical. Everywhere from residential to EHV. Especially 5kv class, which I have I have a soft spot for.
I secretly fantasize about wiring a house with vintage type equipment but with a modern twist to the equipment. Two wire service, double fused main and branch circuits, black and red BVVB (see last pic), two slot receptacles, ect. Kind of like this: (note, none of the pics are mine, they are from Google) | ||
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Post# 1199279 , Reply# 22 2/14/2024 at 17:33 by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Wow, no wonder so many houses used to burn down
Post number 20, all that dry wood near electrical wiring and wiring devices inside wooden boxes.
All the wiring I do in my own home I do the commercial standards. Everything is in metal I even use metal outlet switch plates no Romax wire. I’m used to doing it this way from the commercial building spaces and my house was built this way originally so I’ve continued it with all the additions and upgrades we’ve done. Knob and tube wiring burned down many homes. John | ||
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Post# 1199283 , Reply# 23 2/14/2024 at 17:57 by chetlaham (United States) |
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Correct
Fused neutrals mixed with things like Edison screw base sockets become rather dangerous. And indeed, a fused neutral is a code violation.
Though that all becomes a rather moot point when there is no neutral to speak of ;) With modern design techniques proper isolation, guarding and shielding prevent reverse polarity or having both conductors energized above from becoming a danger. Think type C or type F schuko plugs as an example. I'm imagining a single phase 2 wire ungrounded system. Two service wires with 230-250 potential between them, double pole breakers or fuses, non conductive wiring devices and double insulated appliances. Simple system that would make wiring a home rather fun for me. | ||
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Post# 1199286 , Reply# 24 2/14/2024 at 18:18 by chetlaham (United States) |
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None Conductive Wiring Devices
I'm imagining these outlets in a modern living home. All plastic yoke, plastic box with plastic conduit or BVVB wire. Double insulated appliances of course. There would be no way for anything external to become energized as there would be no exposed metal for the user to contact.
Which takes me to reply #22- wood, plastic or bakelite around electrical equipment does not present a fire hazard. Correctly installed conductors (including knob and tube) and wiring devices will never reach flammable temperatures let alone those which may dry out wood to the point of pyrophoric carbonization. What can happen is a high resistance connection from a bad splice or loose terminal. In that case the heat generated is of such degree the material can not contain it or stop it. A metal box will become hot enough to ignite a stud assuming the plastic wire nut or wiring device does not catch fire first. Metal plates, rigid conduit or a RACO box make no difference. Lastly I would trust the porcelain insulators around knob and tube any day over the cracking, drying rubber cloth covered cables which followed it or that old BX cable without the bonding strip. If I had to choose between knob and tube or NM cable installed before the mid 70s I would hands down choose knob and tube. Knob and tube is among the safest wiring method ever installed in residential, the only hazard (and bad rep) comes from knob and tub being disturbed by DIY hack jobs latter on in a home's existence. Same goes for fuse boxes, the only real danger was people screwing larger fuses or placing pennies behind them. There is nothing wrong with old technology. | ||
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Post# 1199289 , Reply# 25 2/14/2024 at 18:55 by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Chet it’s a good thing you’re not writing standards
You’re basically saying that every commercial building in the United States is dangerous because they use metal around the wiring, you know so little about this even BX cable with the metal sheath around it you can have a lightning strike and the conductors inside can turn red hot and it will not set The wood that it is pulled through on fire.
The other big danger with using plastic sheathing is if there is a fire in the building, even unrelated to the electrical installations, all that plastic insulation burning will end up, killing people in the building that are trying to escape or are trapped inside waiting for rescue. John | ||
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Post# 1199293 , Reply# 26 2/14/2024 at 20:12 by chetlaham (United States) |
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Re-read what I wrote- I said "make no difference" In other words if the box/conduit/gutter ect is steel, aluminum, PVC, fiberglass, ect it makes no difference, a high resistance splice is trouble (fire) either way (equally).
BX cable doesn't glow red hot because of lightning strikes. It glows red hot due to not having an aluminum armor bonding strip like modern AC cable and not having an equipment like modern MC cable. The interlocking metal spirals oxidize resulting in turn to turn contact becoming electrically restive greatly increasing the impedance of the armor. As such when a ground fault occurs inside a metal box or a fault in occurs an appliance the increased I2R resistance of the metal armor causes it to heat up while carrying ground fault current. Because this resistance also impedes the flow of electrons, the amount of amps seen by the breaker or fuse may be to low to trip the device quickly, or even trip it at all- the armor will glow red hot indefinitely until it ignites a fire. It is for this reason that NEC 250.118 (10) essentially forbids the armour by itself (alone) of type MC cable being the sole effective ground fault current path unless listed as such. www.snellheatingandair.co... Even THHN, TW, XLPE, ect wire in metal conduit has PVC/Vinyl/Rubber which can become toxic when burned. Metal vs plastic conduit or jakceting makes little difference. Other means like fire sprinklers, fire stops, dampers, exit signs, horizontal and vertical containment, stairs wells, ect, ect are what save people during a fire.
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Post# 1199297 , Reply# 27 2/14/2024 at 20:34 by chetlaham (United States) |
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*aluminum armor bonding strip | ||
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Post# 1201869 , Reply# 28 3/20/2024 at 06:23 by WhiteWhiskers (Silicon Valley, California) |
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Mister Magoo for GE Light Bulbs
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Post# 1202042 , Reply# 29 3/21/2024 at 21:00 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Alexander Smith 1941 | ||
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Post# 1202043 , Reply# 30 3/21/2024 at 21:12 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Chemstrand 1957 | ||
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Post# 1202044 , Reply# 31 3/21/2024 at 21:15 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Corningware 1988 | ||
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Post# 1202045 , Reply# 32 3/21/2024 at 21:17 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Crane 1929 | ||
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Post# 1202046 , Reply# 33 3/21/2024 at 21:20 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Duplexalite 1919 | ||
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Post# 1202047 , Reply# 34 3/21/2024 at 21:23 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Gilbert 1922 | ||
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Post# 1202048 , Reply# 35 3/21/2024 at 21:25 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Heywood-Wakefield 1958 | ||
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Post# 1202051 , Reply# 36 3/21/2024 at 21:28 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Inco Nickel 1961 | ||
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Post# 1202052 , Reply# 37 3/21/2024 at 21:31 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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International 1958 | ||
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Post# 1202053 , Reply# 38 3/21/2024 at 21:34 by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Mitchell 1949 | ||
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