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Thread Number: 9529
Can the Cabrio or Oasis AGI models do a true hot wash? |
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| Post# 176592 12/19/2006 at 03:15 (6,338 days old) by agiflow () | ||
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Was just wondering if anyone on the site has an Oasis or Cabrio AGI model that can do a true HOT wash and not one with the dumbed down temps. This to me is the deal breaker. | ||
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| Post# 176593 , Reply# 1 12/19/2006 at 04:10 (6,338 days old) by sudsman () | ||
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I am trying to find one that will do a hot wash too So far I have NOT been able to find one that will .. I really makes me P.O. that the mfgs. think I am not smart enough to choose my own water temperature! | ||
Post# 176594 , Reply# 2 12/19/2006 at 05:47 (6,338 days old) by tolivac  (greenville nc) |
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Can you "outsmart" the factory defualt water temp selections by turning off the cold water and leaving the hot water on?(the water input faucets feeding the machine)Someone ought to try this if they want a hot wash. | ||
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Post# 176599 , Reply# 3 12/19/2006 at 07:08 (6,337 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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At one time, there wre two models of Sears agitator versions. One had the window, the other one didn't. The one with the window had an annual consumption rating of 420 KWH and the one without the winodw was 500 kwh. I made the assumption the one with the higher consumption per year had a true hot wash. I believe the "invizle" agitator models have a true hot fill, but then again, it doesn't use that much water. There is a possibility one can override this by simply turning off the cold tap, however, with today's electronics, that may cause the machine to shut down from filling. My 1986 LK would add some cool water if the hot temp was over 140, but I'd just turn off the cold tap if I wanted that not to happen. But that was 20 year old electrnoics too.
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| Post# 176603 , Reply# 4 12/19/2006 at 07:42 (6,337 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida) | ||
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| Post# 176678 , Reply# 6 12/19/2006 at 13:07 (6,337 days old) by sudsman () | ||
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You Can't Trick the LG I have tried 4 or 5 different ways they start the error code bit, | ||
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Post# 176695 , Reply# 7 12/19/2006 at 14:34 (6,337 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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As mentioned several times, my F&P IWL12 can do a true hot wash. I don't think there is a controlled upper limit. While in diagnostic mode the display reports the programmed target temp and the actual temp sensed by the thermistor in the mixing chamber, and there's no target listed when Hot fill is selected. My older F&P GWL08 controls hot to maximum of 120°F and (supposedly) triggers an error code if the incoming supply is too hot, which supposedly is to protect the water valve from damage. The newer-style water valves can deal with higher temps, but whether 160°F or 180°F could damage them, I don't know. Interesting also that older models used the mixing chamber as a heat-sink to cool the motor controller board. It wasn't unusual for the machine to trigger a brief cold water flow during agitation when needed to refresh the mixing chamber. Newer models are air-cooled. IWL12 does beep an error if the incoming supply is too low for it to reach the target. It doesn't shut off, just beeps and signals an error on the display ("Help! I'm not getting any hot water.") I assume it'd do the same thing if the incoming supply was too high (hoses switched) to control to lower temps. Default target temps per factory programming (I think this info is all correct, there's a load washing right now so I can't check them): Cold = Tap Cold Cold+ = 20°C (68°F) Warm/Cold = 34°C (95°F) Warm = 46°C (115°F) Warm/Hot = 51°C (125°F) Hot = Tap Hot The IWL series includes a user accessible programming option to globally adjust the target temps by -6°F to +6°F. The latest IWL16 may have different target temps, perhaps reduced a bit for a better EnergyStar rating. But I'd bet it can still do a 140° hot wash. | ||
| Post# 176697 , Reply# 8 12/19/2006 at 14:38 (6,337 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA) | ||
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| Post# 176726 , Reply# 10 12/19/2006 at 16:21 (6,337 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN) | ||
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Hot or not So yeah, I think that gives you the option to have it do a true hot fill or not. One day, I'll get brave enough to go up in the attic and crank up the hot water to get a good hot fill. | ||
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Post# 176858 , Reply# 11 12/20/2006 at 00:27 (6,337 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 176860 , Reply# 12 12/20/2006 at 00:29 (6,337 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 176884 , Reply# 15 12/20/2006 at 04:47 (6,337 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Sad, but top loading washers have only several ways to meet the Energy Star and government mandates for energy use, and most have taken the easy route; limiting hot water useage. Just to make sure those pesky consumers don't try and put one over on anyone, these new machines go one better by making sure in some way no none gets any ideas of messing with anything. After all, if everyone started using more water, especially hot water what would be the point of the new regulations? *LOL* L. | ||
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Post# 176889 , Reply# 16 12/20/2006 at 05:30 (6,337 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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At this stage I don't plan on buying any newer machines except the SQ TL.I will continue to buy the ones from the swap shops. | ||
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Post# 176902 , Reply# 17 12/20/2006 at 08:49 (6,336 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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The Party's Over? | ||
| Post# 176941 , Reply# 18 12/20/2006 at 11:11 (6,336 days old) by westytoploader () | ||
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Greg, are you referring to that dreaded "cooldown" rinse on the SQ Energy Star top-loaders? | ||
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