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Post# 1199844   2/21/2024 at 11:19 by christfr (st louis mo)        

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well i ran one load through and all was fine as it has been for years. but at the end of the last load the last items to spin the machine began to squeal and the pump quit . i looked at what i could see the motor is running fine the pump shaft is spinning but making lots of noise and wont drain. i guess the pump has died. so question amyone have a source for a pump or a good used one. ill try and find a pump and try a repair, but if no parts are left i guess it time to scrap it. any ideas out there?

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Post# 1199864 , Reply# 1   2/21/2024 at 15:19 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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NOS pumps for Easy SpinDriers are rare as hen's teeth. So you're probably looking at finding either a donor machine or maybe someone has a pump lying about spare.

It's truly amazing how little stock has show up over years for Easy SpinDriers of all models. Considering number of units sold not just in USA but also up north (Canada) would would think things would pop up now and then.

Maybe another sort of modern or vintage pump would work?



Post# 1199867 , Reply# 2   2/21/2024 at 16:07 by christfr (st louis mo)        

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i got my hands up in there and turned the pump pulley it feels like one of the impeller fins broke off and is kinda moving around and stuck in there. not sure if its worth trying to take apart and open up the pump or not. i guess thats the only choice. its really crammed in there

Post# 1199870 , Reply# 3   2/21/2024 at 17:40 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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May be worth a shot to down load parts/repair manual from library. One cannot know players without a score card, and one has always found such things useful in sussing what one is potentially getting into.

At least you'd have a general idea of pump and can ponder repair or how to replace and with what.

www.automatice.org/cgi-bi...

You may also wish reach out to Eugene Pallas at Lorain Appliances. From time to time he has spares from parted out Easy SpinDrier units.

lorainfurniture.com/QUESTIONMARK...






Post# 1199871 , Reply# 4   2/21/2024 at 17:43 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Sort of far away, but..

offerup.com/item/detail/3da40e63...


Post# 1199872 , Reply# 5   2/21/2024 at 17:55 by qsd-dan (West)        

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Is it possible to adapt a modern electric drain pump? I'm not familiar with this design.

Post# 1199899 , Reply# 6   2/21/2024 at 21:59 by Helicaldrive (St. Louis)        
Pic of the controls?

Interesting.

Hope you get a solution!


Post# 1199903 , Reply# 7   2/21/2024 at 22:48 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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From archives...

Member posted pictures of his Easy SpinDrier tipped on side showing what's underneath.

www.automaticwasher.org/c...

Another one..

www.automaticwasher.org/c...


Post# 1199918 , Reply# 8   2/22/2024 at 07:39 by christfr (st louis mo)        

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Thanks for all the info. i think once i get it back into the garage i can tinker a little more. i can either tip it a little or find a way to raise it up about a foot. i kinda need a little more room to get my hands in there. i want to see if i can get what ever is stuck in the pump out maybe that will do it . but if the pump is shot i can always turn it into a gravity drain . need a little more time to tinker. she has been such a good machine

Post# 1199927 , Reply# 9   2/22/2024 at 11:21 by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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Hello Chris, Easy had two pump models, one is attached to the agitator drive and comes off easily--thumbscrew and clamp; the other is right in front below the control panel. Done both, the first, cake; the second, really hard. The nipple valves can come loose and get stuck in the pump. When I took the pump apart the tiny hinge that holds the nipple had snapped and a piece of safety pin fixed 'er up. It was brutal, but has been going strong for six seven years or so. Nothing like an Easy Spin. Good luck. I'm sure you'll figure it out.









Post# 1199928 , Reply# 10   2/22/2024 at 12:15 by christfr (st louis mo)        

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ha ha from what your saying i have the hard one. figures right. such is life.... will be interesting to see what is stuck in there

Post# 1199932 , Reply# 11   2/22/2024 at 12:31 by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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betcha a buck it's the little nipple valve from the spinner side ;'D

Post# 1199937 , Reply# 12   2/22/2024 at 13:16 by Syndets2000 (Nanjemoy, MD)        

I have two doner machines and a box of parts u r welcome to for 50 bucks ...come get em

Post# 1200015 , Reply# 13   2/23/2024 at 15:36 by christfr (st louis mo)        
icky

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well i had an idea i took off the hose the pump drains into and of course it fell apart, but i was able to stick my pinky finger in there and sort of feel around. i can feel the impellers they are still there then as i was turning the pump wheel it got stiff like it was stuck and i could feel something in there so i got a pair of hemostatsand stuck that in there as was able to grab onto this glob of crap. pulled it out then got the wet dry vacuum cleaner and started sucking out these chunky lime scale rocks out. it now moves nice and free. new hose and ill water test it tomorrow . i hope that takes care of it. huh who knew. prob a life time of lint and lime

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Post# 1200017 , Reply# 14   2/23/2024 at 15:36 by christfr (st louis mo)        

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was the size of a big fat pet store mouse

Post# 1200021 , Reply# 15   2/23/2024 at 15:52 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Fingers Crossed!

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Hopefully pump just needed a good cleaning out then will be good to go.

Nearly every vintage washer one has collected has a pump encrusted to some degree with limescale, muck, undissolved soap or detergent.... What sort of water do people outside of NY have anyway? *LOL*

Only washer that didn't have such issues was the Maytag wringer. It was a local find and thanks to our soft water things were pretty clean.

Worse for us collectors is these vintage machines are often put away after final use and sit for ages. All that muck, gunk and whatever else just sits inside pump ossifying. *LOL*


Post# 1200024 , Reply# 16   2/23/2024 at 16:47 by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
"was the size of a big fat pet store mouse" ~

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ha ha ha Chris--exactly and decomposing. How lucky you did not have to take the pump apart. Now you can go back to the joy of Easy washing.

Post# 1200025 , Reply# 17   2/23/2024 at 16:55 by christfr (st louis mo)        

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have to try an water test it tomorrow hope nothing leaks. . thanks again for all the info

Post# 1200183 , Reply# 18   2/25/2024 at 14:41 by christfr (st louis mo)        
fail

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went to water test and it locked up again. got my pinky finger in there could feel a rubber disk rolling around in there. i know it was one of the flapper things. got the pump out omg what a mess that is getting in there

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Post# 1200184 , Reply# 19   2/25/2024 at 14:42 by christfr (st louis mo)        

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opened the pump out and yes its the rubber flapper thing from the drain side

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Post# 1200185 , Reply# 20   2/25/2024 at 14:44 by christfr (st louis mo)        

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the nub thing that held the flap on rotted away. the one from the wash side is still there and kinda close behind have no idea how long that will last

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Post# 1200187 , Reply# 21   2/25/2024 at 14:46 by christfr (st louis mo)        

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the even worse news is the drain hose from the wash side was still soft and was able to get that off. the hose from the spin side is hard and almost an inch of it broke off right where it attaches to the pump. im not sure if i can strech it enough to re attach it but will try.. if this fails i think im done. my hands and my head hurts

Post# 1200191 , Reply# 22   2/25/2024 at 15:06 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
I could die for you....

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Don't have any suggestions off top my head about the pump. However, would it be possible to swap out old rubber hoses with something modern?

Went through old rubber hose replacement with one's small Whirlpool Junior washer. Once that stuff starts to crack and fall to pieces its usually not long for this world. Only thing usually holding it together is hope; often even just moving slightly will cause thing to break into bits.

Depending upon your frame of mind and other bits might be worth it to find another machine and combine the two to make one good.


Post# 1200196 , Reply# 23   2/25/2024 at 16:00 by christfr (st louis mo)        

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ill let the sealer dry on the pump till tomorrow. then ill try to get it back in again. guess we will see.. anything else breaks im done. and i will never never never take that pump out again.

Post# 1200238 , Reply# 24   2/26/2024 at 10:38 by christfr (st louis mo)        

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well that little flap thing is what was the prob. the lever to re attach it is totally gone but thats ok its on the spin side. got it all back together but now the lever for the drain on the wash side is binding up but you can still close it to fill the tub and it will open half way to drain. ran water through and all that works. the hard rotten hose had just enough to get it onto the pump and get a clamp on. but now im afraid to use it in the kitchen because if that hose splits or crack it will flood the kitchen. so i guess its out in the garage she will be living. you would think that that little flap would be hard as a rock but its soft like it was brand new. shame the hoses arnt

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Post# 1200251 , Reply# 25   2/26/2024 at 16:22 by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Nigthmare on Easy Street ~

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I tried to warn you without scaring you, but the experience I had with that Frankensteinian monster pump makes me tweak even now, thinking about it ;'>

They were so difficult to work on, an old repairman told me that they always installed a new pump, rather than open one up. Your pics are great. Ah, the memories and so wonderful for members to see how unusual the Easy pump is. In Reply 20 you see that rubber "hinge" that attaches to the flap? There is a tiny steel axle, or hinge bolt in there, and that's what I replaced because I like to close the drain on the spin side when an occasional load calls for a bit of softener; also if you use the flush rinse option instead of the needle spray, you need the flap, etc. My theory is that the rinse flap ages more quickly because of the constant water flow, while the wash flap passes water only a few times for a couple minutes per wash day.

Maybe you could pour/soak a solvent into the wash port or boiling water to free up the other flap, since like me you'll never open an Easy pump again.


Post# 1200294 , Reply# 26   2/27/2024 at 08:11 by christfr (st louis mo)        

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i totally hear you. who would have thought. thanks again


Post# 1200305 , Reply# 27   2/27/2024 at 10:02 by Syndets2000 (Nanjemoy, MD)        

Guess I'll just scrap these then..

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Post# 1200308 , Reply# 28   2/27/2024 at 10:25 by christfr (st louis mo)        

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robert.. you willing to ship the box of parts including the hoses . i prob should snag up on them. had no idea your parts were in such better condition than what i have here . you can email me rombachcc@yahoo.com

Post# 1200313 , Reply# 29   2/27/2024 at 11:01 by Syndets2000 (Nanjemoy, MD)        

They already been recycled


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