Thread Number: 95375
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
Resurrecting a 1964 Whirlpool Top Loading Dishwasher, Pristine, Except........... |
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Post# 1200326   2/27/2024 at 16:27 by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Hello Folks, long time no create a thread.
It was going to be a great day, a new top load dish washing machine, a surprise sixtieth birthday party for a long-time companion and best friend, warmth and sunshine in the forecast. What could go wrong, (laughs). Seller John was wonderful, and the last thing he said to me was, "If it doesn’t work right, call me and I’ll refund the money.” Once home, immediately to the sink and the quick-connect., plug in, power on, the flush and rush of its first fill in 60 years, and then……….Yikes, Wanda Sykes, there’s water streaming down the kitchen floor. These early TL DW’s have all the risky business—electrix and plumbing—in the back with an easy to open rear panel , 4 screws and a flip up from the bottom, and "Thar she blows!" ~ Moby Dick Great relief to find that the hoses, both supply and discharge, were all leak free; just the fill hose fitting was loose, so I tightened it. YAY. Water back on, but still the leaky stream. WT Fudge? Undo the coupling to find a worn—dry brittle shrunken— black washer. I hope that’s all, and this new washer does the trick. All set: reset and restart, here we go. The super fast whoosh and rush of the wash arms, the changes in sound as the water level rises, then GEE WHIZZZZ, that’s a long fill. The timer clicks ahead, but the water is still coming in. Good grief, the fill valve is compromat; it won’t shut off! Other than that, the machine works perfectly, LOL, as long as you keep turning the water off at the tap after each fill. Hoping Al or John or Steve has a valve for sale. What a shame if this pristine nearly brand new machine can only operate like a wringer washer, ha ha ha—I know, my favorite thing, but really…… I was tweaking because of the party, and I did not think to take pix, but I will show how cool the early design is when I open it up to install a new valve. I promise. The display pix will come throughout the evening, one at a time, photo essay style, with notes to Al, Glenn, and John. "You all come back now, heah, (hear)," Jethro Klampett of the "Beverly Hillbillies." |
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Post# 1200331 , Reply# 1   2/27/2024 at 16:41 by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Al and John asked about the top rack and although I haven’t spoken to seller John yet, I think they might be right. You see that extra opening for the upper wash arm? I thought, well it must be adjustable but when I put the axle in the other holes on each end, the shaft that brings the water up is at an angle that makes the wash arm insecure ; thus, those holes are not for switching the wash arm—how silly of me to think that the washer arm would be adjustable. Hello…… Therefore, these extra holes must be for the absent rack.
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Post# 1200332 , Reply# 2   2/27/2024 at 16:46 by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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For the king Whirlpool decoder, Glenn, to make sure this whirlpools birth certificate is valid.
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Post# 1200333 , Reply# 3   2/27/2024 at 16:49 by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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It looks so big and futuristic, and the lines are so simple and elegant.
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Post# 1200334 , Reply# 4   2/27/2024 at 16:56 by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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The port and the filter and the drain are complex, not to mention the wash arm being curiously off-center.
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Post# 1200336 , Reply# 5   2/27/2024 at 16:59 by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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One of the four screws attached to the flip up backend. . I’ll show you how cool it is in there next time.
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Post# 1200339 , Reply# 6   2/27/2024 at 17:03 by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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The innards out. You know the thing is so unused that there’s a piece of tape on the lower rack that had the booklet attached or something.-
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Post# 1200341 , Reply# 7   2/27/2024 at 17:06 by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Whirlpool gold. With a little drizzle; it’s 65 here today, like a summer day, but then it’s gonna be 20 something tomorrow. Everybody’s crazy lol.
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Post# 1200342 , Reply# 8   2/27/2024 at 17:11 by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Forgot the longshot in the last set, wrongheaded, though— whoops!
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Post# 1200344 , Reply# 9   2/27/2024 at 17:16 by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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It’s just so striking and everybody thinks it’s a brand new dishwasher and wants one of those newfangled ones that open up from the top, chuckle chuckle.
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Post# 1200346 , Reply# 10   2/27/2024 at 17:22 by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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For all the lovers of the main dial, and the lovers of the BOLwonders.
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Post# 1200381 , Reply# 12   2/27/2024 at 22:13 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 1200388 , Reply# 13   2/27/2024 at 23:34 by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Model coding at the time is that the 2nd character indicates the year of market introduction. M is 1965. P is 1966. The serial may be late 1966? The translation document I have references serial coding beginning at 1970 forward. The coding was arranged differently at an earlier time, not sure when it changed. The serial on the tag doesn't match the newer method. I expect Combo52 can translate it. |
Post# 1200397 , Reply# 14   2/28/2024 at 06:16 by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 1200401 , Reply# 15   2/28/2024 at 07:17 by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 1200409 , Reply# 16   2/28/2024 at 08:40 by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 1200415 , Reply# 17   2/28/2024 at 10:25 by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Since the DW is so low use. You can take the inlet valve apart and soak the parts and cleaner like CLR and reassemble it see if it works in a worst case scenario you just need to replace the little valve diaphragm which are still readily available finding the complete exact valve for this dishwasher might be difficult
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Post# 1200416 , Reply# 18   2/28/2024 at 10:25 by rpms (ontario canada)   |   | |
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Post# 1200423 , Reply# 19   2/28/2024 at 12:10 by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Thanks, everyone. Appreciate your time. First to Paul and Greg. I was subjected to an identity theft attempt, and caught it before losing a dime, but my email has been shut down for months, and I had reached out to both of you months ago; sorry you could not get back to me. I will enter a new email when this post is complete.
John and Cimberlee, you overestimate my skill remembering perhaps the Frigidaire DW where I needed only to repair leaks and install a shark valve which surprisingly required no tools. I have not worked on a DW water valve before, and would love to learn. Direct me. Paul that new valve would be great, and Greg, I have another TL DW from Big Al in which the timer also failed during the dry cycle. OUCH. Had to repair the big hub's tiny attaching wings with super glue. Thanks Guy and Brian, black is always beautiful;'D and to Glenn for giving the nod to John being more learned, (smiles). Steve, that page of doctrine is exciting; can't wait to enlarge and enjoy later with tea and cake. |
Post# 1200743 , Reply# 21   3/4/2024 at 14:22 by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 1200759 , Reply# 23   3/4/2024 at 16:51 by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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Ni Leslie! Hope all is well with you. Tom |
Post# 1200823 , Reply# 24   3/5/2024 at 07:25 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 1200842 , Reply# 25   3/5/2024 at 10:24 by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Hi Mike, I could prolly pass it off as New-In-Box were it not for the valve. It is truly immaculate.. Think of you a lot, that's why I never take the icon picture down because you're in it, smiling. Will remember to snap more washer shots from the deck just for you! Spring came early here, so let the deck washing commence.
Hey Big Al, the cycle chart with the cumulative sum of the minutes has me bug-eyed and happy. And to answer yours and John's uncertainly from the Shopper's Forum thread, this Whirlpool is an equal opportunity rinser, in that the sequence is W R R W R R D. Really appreciate all the doctrine; it made my day. Was Wondering Alan, if it heats at all during the washing and rinsing. Haven't studied all the schematics yet where the answer may be hiding. It also does the "Dwell" cycle, as Hobart curiously calls it, after the last drain, although it is much shorter than Hobart's which really lets the load dwell and drip for a while before switching the pump back on again. Pretty funny Jaime, sneaking in a few porcelain decoys, and thanks Leslie, from'67 and counting--Isn't Whirlpool's longevity simply stunning! Alan, I'll be back later with pictures from the other TL DW. |
Post# 1200968 , Reply# 26   3/6/2024 at 12:39 by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 1201001 , Reply# 27   3/6/2024 at 22:08 by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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I’m glad you got this Michael it’s in great shape.
All whirlpool built dishwashers had a plastisol tank. They came out with the new pump that your portable has Michael in the built-in. They went to a porcelain tank and later the top load portable dishwasher also had a porcelain tank with a double wall. The capacity was smaller than yours but it also fit in smaller kitchen nicely. I have one of the later ones here a few pictures with the porcelain tank. This one was made 1969. They only made these for about two or three years and that was the end of top loading portable dishwashers for whirlpool, KitchenAid continued for a few more years , but they were gone fairly soon into the 70s. |
Post# 1201016 , Reply# 28   3/7/2024 at 07:23 by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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