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SQ FL washer - Can Someone Explain What Is Happening Here?
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Post# 1201181   3/9/2024 at 12:56 by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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I found this very bulky load of a SQ FL washer.

What is going on with all the interim spins?

I'm seeing what looks like a sudslock with each one (even the last one)


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Post# 1201199 , Reply# 1   3/9/2024 at 20:21 by NeptuneGuy27 (Baltimore,MD)        
Interim Spins

I don't necessarily think it is suds-locking it's more of water-locking issue. Those flannel sheets absorb so much water that when the washer starts to really get going in the spin, more water comes out of the load than it can pump away. Which is why you see it cascading down the door. I've only witnessed this happening on my SQ front loader a few times in the nearly three years I've had it. And it generally does it if wash more than 2 thick fleece throw blankets. It doesn't hurt it and is kinda fun to watch.

Post# 1201212 , Reply# 2   3/9/2024 at 23:05 by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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Ahh makes sense...I was so confused becuase it did not look visually like there was too much soap...but I kept thinking.. wow... this just keeps happening with each one...

Do you feel like when it fills for rinse...stops filling and then starts tumbling is too short before it drains the rinse water? I feel like once the water stops filling for rinse and then it tumbles... it's like less than a minute before it drains...isn't that too short?


Post# 1201216 , Reply# 3   3/10/2024 at 00:31 by appnut (TX)        

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Mark, a couple of things. What you observed with the load with the initial spin after the wwash abnd even after the 1st rinse, it looks like a suds lock, but it wasn't Just dealing with high volume of water from those sheets and the water being sudsy. But as each rinse progressed, it was less of a problem. But still a lot of water due to those sheets. This is basically a commercial machine designed the process loads through quiickly. Each rinse is about a minute or two after the fill is satisfied and drains. Very normal in a commerical envornment.

Just my opion, but I beielve the guy put too much detergent in the main wash, hence the difficulty with suds. But I don't know how much he put in for the prwash.


Post# 1201218 , Reply# 4   3/10/2024 at 00:35 by NeptuneGuy27 (Baltimore,MD)        
Short rinses

When I was shopping around for a new washer a few years back I had my search narrowed down to either a Speed Queen or an Asko. My one main concern with the SQ's was the incredibly short rinse cycles (I watched as many Youtube videos as I could find on them). I was worried that the laundry wouldn't be thoroughly rinsed especially things like towels that hold a lot of water and detergent. But I haven't had a single issue. Now in the interest of full disclosure, for clothing I always use Extra Rinse (3 total rinses) and when washing sheets and towels I use Allergy Rinse (4 total rinses). But with my previous FL'er, a Maytag Epic, aka Whirlpool Duet, I always had to keep the Extra Rinse on as it never rinsed all that well.

Post# 1201219 , Reply# 5   3/10/2024 at 00:51 by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington)        
I agree with Bob

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the guy used way too much detergent, instant suds & water lock. That was not hard to figure out.
Most front load washing machines have a Protocall of some sort to eliminate suds lock, whether new or older.


Post# 1201221 , Reply# 6   3/10/2024 at 01:26 by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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well at least I learned water lock is a thing. I knew suds lock was...but never heard of water lock.

I've never experienced a suds lock in my life other than seeing it on videos.


Post# 1201226 , Reply# 7   3/10/2024 at 07:20 by retro-man (- boston,ma)        

I was impressed with the stability of the machine on the spin cycles along with the speed which it achieved. Great suspension design.

Jon


Post# 1201228 , Reply# 8   3/10/2024 at 08:52 by WhiteWhiskers (Silicon Valley, California)        

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Been using an FF7 since August last year. My take is that what you're seeing is redistribution of the goods. That's really it, not suds lock. Depending on the overall size of the load and composition, the spin cycle sometimes revs up and down, or goes right up to speed. The machine has load sensors that detect balance. If the machine detects something out of balance, it will spin down and tumble to redistribute, and then try again, and again, until things are distributed enough to spin at high speed. This is what I've observed.

Post# 1201244 , Reply# 9   3/10/2024 at 12:11 by rpms (ontario canada)        

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Unless the sheets were stored in a damp,smelly basement why do you need to wash clean sheets on a heavy duty cycle with two kinds of detergent?
Would a toss in the dryer to fluff or hang them outside not be enuff?



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